Barbara 15,149 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 We may have lost to 2 stupid deflected goals but Conte really made some stupid decisions tonight: 1. Why bring Barkley on for Willian when he hasn't played for 6-7 months? Did his best tonight but looked a little lost. Why not just bring Batshuayi on? 2. Wenger may have switched his formation in the second half but why oh why, did we switch to 3-5-2? Think that system has worked only against Atletico this season and it's been awful otherwise. 3. Why did we stick with the back 3/5 all the way till the end? Doesn't even matter if we lose 2-1 or 3-1 since we were already losing at that point! 4. Why the hell did Conte, again, bring a RWB for a RWB? (Benitez would be so proud of that!) Were already 2-1 down by then. Why not bring Bats on for Moses instead and put Pedro to WB or something? I remember Conte used to be flexible with his formation in games last season. This season, he has stubbornly persisted with the same formation. It's always 3-4-3 or 3-5-2. Why not play with a back 4 when we're chasing games?Ross did as okay as Bats did, we don't have personnel for leaving the 3-man defense behind us, Pedro was absolutely useless after the first 10 minutes, we never switched to 3-5-2. don't know if you noticed, but our main problem yesterday was actually having attacking players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 @Matt_Law_DT Conte of course has reason to be frustrated but the idea he is not having any input into transfers is hard to believe - zappacosta, Morata, Alonso, rudiger, and now palmieri and dzeko all players he would know a lot about. Carroll was also his suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Conte needs to utilise our young players more to make up the squad. I think RLC and Barkley are basically the same player, Chalobah would do as well as Drinkwater. Ake could've developed into a left sided Azpilicueta. Musonda could do more. By not making those signings that's £65/70m that could've then been spent on someone who'd instantly improve the first 11. But the club seem obsessed with inflating the squad with average players, ending up with a squad where it's the same one or two players responsible for creating and scoring goals. We used to have high level young players, Mourinho sold most of them. The players you mention are as mediocre as the ones we signed. So if your point is saving money, then yeah, you're right and you might have a chance to land a job under Marina. But if you mean by doing that we'd be improving, no we won't. We have average players everywhere with few exceptions, none of them mentioned by you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Matt law. Matt Lawl. He works for the newspaper that made up the story about Crouch.Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, manpe said: Matt Lawl. He works for the newspaper that made up the story about Crouch. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk ,Matt law is club's mouthpiece..He is Tier 1 reporter for chelsea Dimitr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Matt law is expert for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Ayioros 76 Posted January 25, 2018 Popular Post! Share Posted January 25, 2018 39 minutes ago, Dimitr said: Ok we didn’t sign Sandro etc but board support him and we signed players again from Italy . We spend 200millions for his choices haha . Embarassing comment really.... Do you really think Zappa, Alonso or Palmieri are first Conte choice ? Same for Carroll or Dzeko ? You can be sur Conte want top players, it's the reason why he left Juventus some years ago. And it's the reason of his frustration now. But if the board tell him you have just a low budget to recruit then he gives average player, because average players it's always better than no players at all. That's no meaning that he is happy with that. Maybe ZappaCosta was the 15 choice on his whish list. And for some who says "Yes but board has spend 220 millions for Conte". It's true but seriously when you count the income players, you have to count depart players and check the balance ! This year we spend 220 millions but we receive 200 millions for our departing players. So what ? Conte should say "Thanks Chelsea Board, one of the biggest club in the world, to spend 20 millions for me on his window !" And the funniest, here is a view of our balance transfert since 14/15 at now : # Club(s) Expenditures Arrivals Income Departures Balance 1 Manchester City 761,00 Mill. € 101 227,76 Mill. € 100 -533,23 Mill. € 2 Manchester United 740,75 Mill. € 71 250,01 Mill. € 77 -490,74 Mill. € 3 Everton FC 377,94 Mill. € 86 197,98 Mill. € 74 -179,96 Mill. € 4 Arsenal FC 347,62 Mill. € 59 185,85 Mill. € 60 -161,77 Mill. € 5 Crystal Palace 200,78 Mill. € 98 61,47 Mill. € 110 -139,31 Mill. € 6 Watford FC 223,98 Mill. € 126 84,90 Mill. € 121 -139,08 Mill. € 7 Leicester City 252,23 Mill. € 80 122,40 Mill. € 84 -129,83 Mill. € 8 West Ham United 216,75 Mill. € 80 94,57 Mill. € 85 -122,19 Mill. € 9 West Bromwich Albion 156,38 Mill. € 58 44,25 Mill. € 62 -112,14 Mill. € 10 Newcastle United 259,33 Mill. € 95 148,49 Mill. € 100 -110,84 Mill. € 11 AFC Bournemouth 134,92 Mill. € 87 29,84 Mill. € 91 -105,08 Mill. € 12 Liverpool FC 524,53 Mill. € 76 440,72 Mill. € 74 -83,81 Mill. € 13 Brighton & Hove Albion 90,60 Mill. € 110 13,24 Mill. € 105 -77,37 Mill. € 14 Middlesbrough FC 149,31 Mill. € 104 74,68 Mill. € 115 -74,64 Mill. € 15 Stoke City 135,20 Mill. € 66 65,94 Mill. € 70 -69,26 Mill. € 16 Sunderland AFC 131,97 Mill. € 90 73,16 Mill. € 100 -58,81 Mill. € 17 Burnley FC 117,97 Mill. € 85 71,90 Mill. € 86 -46,07 Mill. € 18 Huddersfield Town 62,31 Mill. € 103 21,56 Mill. € 109 -40,75 Mill. € 19 Chelsea FC 577,80 Mill. € 151 537,34 Mill. € 144 -40,46 Mill. € Yeah we are 19th of this fucking list. Yes we have just spend 40 millions in 4 years... But yeah continue to blame Conte because you are too dumb to see the reality. When I read, "he must respect the board". Yeah maybe, but please first of all, the board must respect the fans. Antonio8, Sideshow Luiz, Miki-Liki and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 ,Matt law is club's mouthpiece..He is Tier 1 reporter for chelsea So I've heard, but when he works for a paper where his boss deliberately lies for clicks, then nothing can guarantee that he isn't forced to do the same from time to time.Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 You can't blame him. How can you be a top manager at a top club when the club won't back your judgement in the transfer market, and instead identify their own targets and force you to work with them? He'll be gone, and Ancelotti will come back as Roman's yes-man, win us a PL title but fail to do anything in Europe, and then Hiddink will come back for round 3. I could bet body parts if Carlo ever wins a premier League title with this lot of players... Sorry, he wouldn't get us in UCL Miki-Liki and Essien19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,993 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Yeah, it's a no for me to bringing Carlo back as well. We need to find our Pochenttino. Someone who thinks long term and can build something with the thought already in their head that we can't competen financially with the Manc clubs. We'll have to win with our tactics and coachin rather than with financial muscle going forward. We're a tier 2 club like Arsenal, Spuds, Liverpool etc now. Can't compete directly with United, City, PSG, Barca, Real Madird. 11Drogba, Barbara, Styles and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ayioros said: Embarassing comment really.... Do you really think Zappa, Alonso or Palmieri are first Conte choice ? Same for Carroll or Dzeko ? You can be sur Conte want top players, it's the reason why he left Juventus some years ago. And it's the reason of his frustration now. But if the board tell him you have just a low budget to recruit then he gives average player, because average players it's always better than no players at all. That's no meaning that he is happy with that. Maybe ZappaCosta was the 15 choice on his whish list. And for some who says "Yes but board has spend 220 millions for Conte". It's true but seriously when you count the income players, you have to count depart players and check the balance ! This year we spend 220 millions but we receive 200 millions for our departing players. So what ? Conte should say "Thanks Chelsea Board, one of the biggest club in the world, to spend 20 millions for me on his window !" And the funniest, here is a view of our balance transfert since 14/15 at now : # Club(s) Expenditures Arrivals Income Departures Balance 1 Manchester City 761,00 Mill. € 101 227,76 Mill. € 100 -533,23 Mill. € 2 Manchester United 740,75 Mill. € 71 250,01 Mill. € 77 -490,74 Mill. € 3 Everton FC 377,94 Mill. € 86 197,98 Mill. € 74 -179,96 Mill. € 4 Arsenal FC 347,62 Mill. € 59 185,85 Mill. € 60 -161,77 Mill. € 5 Crystal Palace 200,78 Mill. € 98 61,47 Mill. € 110 -139,31 Mill. € 6 Watford FC 223,98 Mill. € 126 84,90 Mill. € 121 -139,08 Mill. € 7 Leicester City 252,23 Mill. € 80 122,40 Mill. € 84 -129,83 Mill. € 8 West Ham United 216,75 Mill. € 80 94,57 Mill. € 85 -122,19 Mill. € 9 West Bromwich Albion 156,38 Mill. € 58 44,25 Mill. € 62 -112,14 Mill. € 10 Newcastle United 259,33 Mill. € 95 148,49 Mill. € 100 -110,84 Mill. € 11 AFC Bournemouth 134,92 Mill. € 87 29,84 Mill. € 91 -105,08 Mill. € 12 Liverpool FC 524,53 Mill. € 76 440,72 Mill. € 74 -83,81 Mill. € 13 Brighton & Hove Albion 90,60 Mill. € 110 13,24 Mill. € 105 -77,37 Mill. € 14 Middlesbrough FC 149,31 Mill. € 104 74,68 Mill. € 115 -74,64 Mill. € 15 Stoke City 135,20 Mill. € 66 65,94 Mill. € 70 -69,26 Mill. € 16 Sunderland AFC 131,97 Mill. € 90 73,16 Mill. € 100 -58,81 Mill. € 17 Burnley FC 117,97 Mill. € 85 71,90 Mill. € 86 -46,07 Mill. € 18 Huddersfield Town 62,31 Mill. € 103 21,56 Mill. € 109 -40,75 Mill. € 19 Chelsea FC 577,80 Mill. € 151 537,34 Mill. € 144 -40,46 Mill. € Yeah we are 19th of this fucking list. Yes we have just spend 40 millions in 4 years... But yeah continue to blame Conte because you are too dumb to see the reality. When I Was d, "he must respect the board". Yeah maybe, but please first of all, the board must respect the fans. 200m is a lot of money regardless of if it was made back, and furthermore Matic aside who did he want to keep that was sold? Half of the sales were loanees or squad players he never played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 This platitude I'm hearing at recent times is ridiculous - CONTE'S SIGNING. My God. Imagine this: Marina: "Hello mister Conte, we have 25 millions for a fullback" Conte: "Oh, all right, I'll see what I can do..." * finds Zappacosta / injured Emerson for that money * Fans: "You stupid manager Zappacosta is YOUR SIGNING and he is sheeet!" Conte at press: "We need to do better in transfer market..." Fans: "OMG he always moans and gets in conflict with our board!!!" ... leave him alone, for fuck's sake. 11Drogba, Ayioros and manpe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayioros 76 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, Tomo said: 200m is a lot of money regardless of if it was made back, and furthermore Matic aside who did he want to keep that was sold? Half of the sales were loanees or squad players he never played. And what's the difference ? We receive this money in selling players (loanees, bad, average or top players). But the fact is we just reinvest this money for new players but not more. The board doesn't invest money in the transferts, we are Chelsea, one of the biggest club in the world and we don't invest money. We have the new stadium, I accept that. But it's not the only reason. Its same clear it's a new politic for long term and no just to finance the new Bridge. As has already been said, if you want to fill this stadium, club must stay attractive, he must continue to make people dream. If we become an average club with average players, it could be worst for our incomes Who want experience that Liverpool experienced few years ago ? When you invest money on big players (fee or wages) it's not just for sport or result. It's also an important economical invest (more marchandising etc.). If we continue this kind of path, I really fear for the futur of the club. Leif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 29 minutes ago, Ayioros said: And the funniest, here is a view of our balance transfert since 14/15 at now : # Club(s) Expenditures Arrivals Income Departures Balance 1 Manchester City 761,00 Mill. € 101 227,76 Mill. € 100 -533,23 Mill. € 2 Manchester United 740,75 Mill. € 71 250,01 Mill. € 77 -490,74 Mill. € 3 Everton FC 377,94 Mill. € 86 197,98 Mill. € 74 -179,96 Mill. € 4 Arsenal FC 347,62 Mill. € 59 185,85 Mill. € 60 -161,77 Mill. € 5 Crystal Palace 200,78 Mill. € 98 61,47 Mill. € 110 -139,31 Mill. € 6 Watford FC 223,98 Mill. € 126 84,90 Mill. € 121 -139,08 Mill. € 7 Leicester City 252,23 Mill. € 80 122,40 Mill. € 84 -129,83 Mill. € 8 West Ham United 216,75 Mill. € 80 94,57 Mill. € 85 -122,19 Mill. € 9 West Bromwich Albion 156,38 Mill. € 58 44,25 Mill. € 62 -112,14 Mill. € 10 Newcastle United 259,33 Mill. € 95 148,49 Mill. € 100 -110,84 Mill. € 11 AFC Bournemouth 134,92 Mill. € 87 29,84 Mill. € 91 -105,08 Mill. € 12 Liverpool FC 524,53 Mill. € 76 440,72 Mill. € 74 -83,81 Mill. € 13 Brighton & Hove Albion 90,60 Mill. € 110 13,24 Mill. € 105 -77,37 Mill. € 14 Middlesbrough FC 149,31 Mill. € 104 74,68 Mill. € 115 -74,64 Mill. € 15 Stoke City 135,20 Mill. € 66 65,94 Mill. € 70 -69,26 Mill. € 16 Sunderland AFC 131,97 Mill. € 90 73,16 Mill. € 100 -58,81 Mill. € 17 Burnley FC 117,97 Mill. € 85 71,90 Mill. € 86 -46,07 Mill. € 18 Huddersfield Town 62,31 Mill. € 103 21,56 Mill. € 109 -40,75 Mill. € 19 Chelsea FC 577,80 Mill. € 151 537,34 Mill. € 144 -40,46 Mill. € Yeah we are 19th of this fucking list. Yes we have just spend 40 millions in 4 years... Our expenditure has still been pretty big. Problem is we've spent it on far too many average players. The 'sell to buy' policy is crap admittedly. Barbara and DYC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 48 minutes ago, FabHazard said: If Conte's first choice is Harry Kane then we will never get him..Cannot blame it on board enitrely...We spent 200 million even though we sold players for the same money.....200 M is lot of money....We bought shit with that money....So much money wasted on drinkwater and bakayoko....Morata is not showing any promise...Both board and conte are at fault...Conte needs to stop moaning..Instead of taking digs at board he has to coach this team some attacking play..Board also needs to buckle up and spend money on quality players with proper scouting 200 millions? Morata alone is 70. And let's not pretend we haven't lost good player (compared with Bakayoko) in Matić, also in Diego Costa. It's not like we have spent 200 millions on IMPROVEMENTS. No. We got 100 millions for Costa+Matić and bought Morata+Bakayoko. That's not SPENDING money. That's just reinvesting what we earned of selling. ------ We didn't spend shit, we have spent about 100 millions on backups, with no clear plan from the board, and certainly no plan to INVEST. We didn't spend shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Ayioros 76 Posted January 25, 2018 Popular Post! Share Posted January 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Chels said: Our expenditure has still been pretty big. Problem is we've spent it on far too many average players. The 'sell to buy' policy is crap admittedly. Yeah sur, and it's a big problem. Classic example, we don't want to pay 80 millions for a very good player. But to pay 40 millions for 2 average players it's okay. Maybe one will be just good, the other will be shit. Sometime we will have a good surprise and he will be world class. But several times they will be shit. And like i said above, pay for the 80 million player, will give us more certitude but also more money on marchandising. It will not be the case for average players. Essien19, manpe, Leif and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, Ayioros said: Embarassing comment really.... Do you really thing Zappa, Alonso or Palmieri are first Conte choice ? Same for Carroll or Dzeko ? You can be sur Conte want top players, it's the reason why he left Juventus some years ago. And it's the reasong of his frustration now. But if the board tell him you have just a low budget to recruit then he gives average player, because average players it's always better than no players at all. That's no meaning that he is happy with that. Maybe ZappaCosta was the 15 choice on his whish list. And for some who says "Yes but board has spend 220 millions for Conte". It's true but seriously when you count the income players, you have to count depart players and check the balance ! This year we spend 220 millions but we receive 200 millions for our departing players. So what ? Conte should say "Thanks Chelsea Board, one of the biggest club in the world, to spend 20 millions for me on his window !" And the funniest, here is a view of our balance transfert since 14/15 at now : # Club(s) Expenditures Arrivals Income Departures Balance 1 Manchester City 761,00 Mill. € 101 227,76 Mill. € 100 -533,23 Mill. € 2 Manchester United 740,75 Mill. € 71 250,01 Mill. € 77 -490,74 Mill. € 3 Everton FC 377,94 Mill. € 86 197,98 Mill. € 74 -179,96 Mill. € 4 Arsenal FC 347,62 Mill. € 59 185,85 Mill. € 60 -161,77 Mill. € 5 Crystal Palace 200,78 Mill. € 98 61,47 Mill. € 110 -139,31 Mill. € 6 Watford FC 223,98 Mill. € 126 84,90 Mill. € 121 -139,08 Mill. € 7 Leicester City 252,23 Mill. € 80 122,40 Mill. € 84 -129,83 Mill. € 8 West Ham United 216,75 Mill. € 80 94,57 Mill. € 85 -122,19 Mill. € 9 West Bromwich Albion 156,38 Mill. € 58 44,25 Mill. € 62 -112,14 Mill. € 10 Newcastle United 259,33 Mill. € 95 148,49 Mill. € 100 -110,84 Mill. € 11 AFC Bournemouth 134,92 Mill. € 87 29,84 Mill. € 91 -105,08 Mill. € 12 Liverpool FC 524,53 Mill. € 76 440,72 Mill. € 74 -83,81 Mill. € 13 Brighton & Hove Albion 90,60 Mill. € 110 13,24 Mill. € 105 -77,37 Mill. € 14 Middlesbrough FC 149,31 Mill. € 104 74,68 Mill. € 115 -74,64 Mill. € 15 Stoke City 135,20 Mill. € 66 65,94 Mill. € 70 -69,26 Mill. € 16 Sunderland AFC 131,97 Mill. € 90 73,16 Mill. € 100 -58,81 Mill. € 17 Burnley FC 117,97 Mill. € 85 71,90 Mill. € 86 -46,07 Mill. € 18 Huddersfield Town 62,31 Mill. € 103 21,56 Mill. € 109 -40,75 Mill. € 19 Chelsea FC 577,80 Mill. € 151 537,34 Mill. € 144 -40,46 Mill. € Yeah we are 19th of this fucking list. Yes we have just spend 40 millions in 5 years... But yeah continue to blame Conte because you are too dumb to see the reality. When I see, he must respect the board. Yeah maybe, but please first of all, the board must respect the fans. Hahah you don’t understand what I am saying. I don’t care if Zappa,or Alonso were first choice or 100th choice all the players we tried were from fucking Italy . And of course conte suggestions. Last summer we spend 200millions so stfu and think before you talk . CONTEOUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayioros 76 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, Dimitr said: Hahah you don’t understand what I am saying. I don’t care if Zappa,or Alonso were first choice or 100th choice all the players we tried were from fucking Italy . And of course conte suggestions. Last summer we spend 200millions so stfu and think before you talk . CONTEOUT "Think before talk" from a guy who say absolut bullshit is really funny. Last summer we spend 220 millions on players and we receive 200 millions from departure players, so what ? You find 20 millions it's a really biiiig investment ? Think before talk yeah ? We replace bigs players by average players but yeah we spend 200 millions oh my god... So what, you would like Conte win 4 trophies with the players of the bottom of his list that board has aggred to give him ? Did you see United/City's investment compared to us, and you would like we are champions each year without spend money ? The guy just gave us a title in his first year, he give us true passion. And he probably leave in a club that will respect him and give him what he wants. But let's go to Ancelotti, Pochetino or anybody and sack him 2 years later, because fan like you are close minded and think managers are always the problem. Essien19, El P. and 11Drogba 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, Dimitr said: Hahah you don’t understand what I am saying. I don’t care if Zappa,or Alonso were first choice or 100th choice all the players we tried were from fucking Italy . And of course conte suggestions. Last summer we spend 200millions so stfu and think before you talk . CONTEOUT If you continue to talk to others members like that you will be off this forum before Conte is sacked. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Special Juan said: If you continue to talk to others members like that you will be off this forum before Conte is sacked. CONTE OUT ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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