Massacre In Paris

[Rmpr 8,977]

Way to sort out your priorities!

Lighting up the mood is necessary from time to time

But to reiterate on your post, I heard once a former Pentagon director on a TED talk saying they were too unprepared for how strong the US military was. He said that the invasion of Iraq in 2003 had achieved in less than a week what was expected out of a full month of war so there were yet no plans for rebuilding the country and its political system. He then goes on to elaborate how it should have been done and compare it to the absurds mistakes it was actually conducted in reality. Many things of what he said you point out as well.

I will try to find it...

[jmarlow 458]

Such sad news!

Sky Sports News HQ ‏@SkySportsNewsHQ 56m56 minutes ago

BREAKING NEWS: France international Lassana Diarra confirms his cousin was killed in Paris terrorist attacks #SSNHQ

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

The Air Attacks Are nonsense...

Month ago, German Police arrested a suspected man, today they said he has a contact to some of the terrorists from yesterday...

one of the terrorists came through Greece with the another refugees...

Time for Europe to WAKE UP and start acting against ISIS.

[iseah100 5,612]

I don't understand your point, I genuinely don't...

Assuming that the clear fairly simple guidelines I mentioned above are not doable, it doesn't mean that we should accept that and it certainly doesn't mean that the expected reaction that we were talking about in the first place will solve anything.

Way to sort out your priorities!

My point is, while what you say may work, it will never happen. France have to protect their citizens. They need to ATTACK ISIS.

[ZanSnake 1,211]

If they have been monitoring these guys, then surely they must not have been monitoring close enough!

[CHOULO19 24,332]

My point is, while what you say may work, it will never happen. France have to protect their citizens. They need to ATTACK ISIS.

That makes no sense. Any French (or any other western) troops on the ground will create many times more local support for the side they are targeting. In case you didn't know, the French/British/US armies are not exactly popular in the region, and with pretty good reasons. It will certainly NOT make their citizens any safer, but on the contrary undermine the security of France. Ask yourself, why are the targets usually France, UK and USA, the three major imperialistic powers? That's not justify the attacks in any way, but it's an obvious fact that violence will create even more violence.

Lighting up the mood is necessary from time to time

But to reiterate on your post, I heard once a former Pentagon director on a TED talk saying they were too unprepared for how strong the US military was. He said that the invasion of Iraq in 2003 had achieved in less than a week what was expected out of a full month of war so there were yet no plans for rebuilding the country and its political system. He then goes on to elaborate how it should have been done and compare it to the absurds mistakes it was actually conducted in reality. Many things of what he said you point out as well.

I will try to find it...

Obviously there were many mistakes after the invasion, mostly from the lack of understanding of the society and probably the lack of caring about the population and some were obviously intentional policies of creating more sectarian divides. However all of that become irrelevant next to the biggest crime of the century which was the invasion itself. Can anyone actually justify the invasion now? All the thinly veiled pretexts have fallen since but people don't think about the reasons anymore. The biggest criticism of the invasion in the mainstream is that it was a 'mistake', a tactical blunder because it didn't work out. Nothing about it being the biggest international crime of the century or about the immorality of invading a country and causing the deaths of over 1.8 million people just for oil and political and military influence. Nothing about all the generals and leaders and even propaganda media editors who should be jail....

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

So Violence will create more violence? so if France will attack ISIS, more terrorists attacks on them? so what they have to do? be quiet and do nothing?...

2. The terrorists rent their cars in Belgium, and at least 1 of them returned to belgium... the police arrested him apparently....

Belgium-France-UK - Circle of terrorism.

[Spike 12,049]

Ibrahimovic just said a few days earlier that [he] 'put France and Sweden on the map'.

STOCKHOLM NEXT?

[Fulham Broadway 16,845]

I'll say it: the cultural values of Europe & France are BETTER than those of Syria, or Iraq or most of sub-Saharan Africa. We are freer, more equal, more prosperous and happier as a direct result of that culture (the same culture that allows the self-hating liberal elite the comfort and the resources to express their mistaken views). Time to end the pernicious moral relativism

[ZanSnake 1,211]

Syria strikes to continue

Posted at19:20

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls says France will continue air strikes in Syria, targeting Islamic State, Reuters reports.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

HERE IS SOME WIKIPEDIA PAGES ON EVENTS RELATING TO TERRORIST ATTACKS IN EUROPE AND THE EUROPEAN UNION REGION.

List of terrorist incidents, 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2015

This is a timeline of terrorist incidents which took place in 2015, including attacks by violent non-state actors for political or other unknown motives.

Terrorism in the European Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_European_Union

The failed, foiled and successfully executed acts of terrorism in the European Union are according to the European Police Office either unspecified, or pertains to religious issues, animal rights, right wing, left wing or separatist movements. The field is subject to considerable cooperation among national authorities.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Borders Without a Minimum Security Checks, Thousands of Refugees every day... what you expected? not all of them are innocence.

From Belgium, Greece,Germany... Europe face now their real Problem.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

So Violence will create more violence? so if France will attack ISIS, more terrorists attacks on them? so what they have to do? be quiet and do nothing?...

2. The terrorists rent their cars in Belgium, and at least 1 of them returned to belgium... the police arrested him apparently....

Belgium-France-UK - Circle of terrorism.

Just spent about half an hour writing a huge post on what they and all of should do, would appreciate it if you read it

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Just spent about half an hour writing a huge post on what they and all of should do, would appreciate it if you read it

Missed it.... I will.

[manpe 10,861]

And now some train got derailed in France killing some people. Not connected to the attacks, but still it's quite grim being French right now Feel sorry for them.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Lassana Diarra Confirms Death of Cousin After Paris Terror Attacks

A Terrorist With a match Ticket, wearing a vest of explosives, tried to enter the stadium but the security stopped him so he decided to blow himself outside...

what Could happen if he entered the stadium...

[Fulham Broadway 16,845]

'Westerners are finally being given just a small taste of the constant fear that people from other nations have endured for generations’ as a result of our military actions abroad.

I used to agree with this, and there is case for chickens coming home to roost, what we reap we sow etc but we have to move forward.

Enough of the cultural appeasement and hand wringing - we must move forward and fight for the Enlightenment.

[Dwight Schrute 114]

Thanks for answering my question.

What can I answer? Your questions are just stupid and provocative.

I am not denying racism againt Muslim people in Europe but anti-european racism is an issue no one can deny too. For decades, we thought that we could be an happy country by not forcing new migrants to adopt our national culture, we thought that multicultularism was "cool". Our gouvernors thought they could easily mix two populations with completely different cultures and beliefs. The cultural gap was way too big.

And now we have a lot of Muslim people that are more and more religious (without being islamists) and do not accept secularism within societies that tend to be more and more secular and liberal. That can only create clashes and growing tensions. What stroke about Charlie Hebdo was to hear so many "moderate" muslims say "I am not happy about what happened but I do not feel sorry for them; they knew they were taking risks". And have you seen the video of that Jewish guy walking in Paris? And we have known the islamist danger for at least 25 years and have done nothing because we were scared to be called racist.

Blaming people of Europe for what is going on is just irresponsible and dangerous. It will only boost far right.

Now what is the solution? I honnestly do not know. We spent 40 years not dealing with anything, hence the mess today. And it will take time, education, money and probably new dead people before getting anywhere.

Im guessing there will now be a full on ground assault by a French led coalition. Seems like the airstrikes will never completely destroy ISIS.

France has not enough military capabilities to lead a coalition on the ground. Only Obama can, and I do not think he will. We will continue with those useless and expensive air strikes. I am not an expert but I feel like we have created such a big mess there that every decision will be a bad decision.

Maybe some day, Western governments will only care about their own countries (I am joking of course).