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What's funny is the fact that you acknowledge his status as a legend is unquestionable but then go on to say that they will never view him the same ever again. Some say contradiction is the lowest form of intelligence, I agree with it.

And before you go on about someones reading comprehension skills I suggest you get yourself hooked on phonics, in that small paragraph there are about a dozen fragment sentences.

Yes, I understand people are hurt by Frank playing for a rival but that pales in comparison to what he accomplished on the pitch for this club. Why is that so hard to understand? City is a Rival but not anywhere near as big a rivalry as Arsenal, Tottenham, Man Utd, Liverpool... We haven't had any real heated contests, as a matter of fact most of the games go by without any incidence at all.

When its all said and done Frank will be welcomed back to the football club with open arms, as you stated in your first post his status as a legend will remain.

Serious question. are you this daft or just intentionally playing stupid because i refuse to believe anyone can be this thick.

Even after i explained the term in bold you still went on foaming in the mouth.

By now anyone with half a brain would have recognised that the comment in bold is referring to lampard the person rather than lampard the legend which are two totally different things.

He remains a legend because there's no way to erase his accomplishment from the club's history i.e our alltime goal scorer, the trophies he's won etc (Lampard the legend) however his decision to join city has made him very unlikeable and made some fans lose respect for him hence lampard the person. Is it so hard a concept to grasp?.

Even those that have been attacking his legacy still recognise his status as a chelsea legend but are simply saying that status now has asterisk next to it. . . .A legend that betrayed his own fans and went back on his words as oppose to a legend like Drogba, a man of integrity and great character who considers the club and its fans in his football decision making process.

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Serious question. are you this daft or just intentionally playing stupid because i refuse to believe anyone can be this thick.

Even after i explained the term in bold you still went on foaming in the mouth.

By now anyone with half a brain would have recognised that the comment in bold is referring to lampard the person rather than lampard the legend which are two totally different things.

He remains a legend because there's no way to erase his accomplishment from the club's history i.e our alltime goal scorer, the trophies he's won etc (Lampard the legend) however his decision to join city has made him very unlikeable and made some fans lose respect for him hence lampard the person. Is it so hard a concept to grasp?.

Even those that have been attacking his legacy still recognise his status as a chelsea legend but are simply saying that status now has asterisk next to it. . . .A legend that betrayed his own fans and went back on his words as oppose to a legend like Drogba, a man of integrity and great character who considers the club and its fans in his football decision making process.

But that's not in any shape or form what was being discussed when you jumped in. It was whether he is viewed as a legend in the eyes of Mourinho and the Board and whether or not he will be welcomed back to the club. Go back and read it. How can you attack his legacy? Put an asterisk next to it? HE IS THE GREATEST GOALSCORER THE CLUB HAS EVER SEEN ASIDE FROM MAYBE JIMMY GREAVES! HE'S SCORED MORE GOALS THAN ANYONE HAS EVER SCORED FOR THE CLUB!

So because at the end of his career when he had no use to us at the age of 36, he went to collect a cheque and sit on the City bench now he has an asterisk next to his name? LOL Does Dennis Wise have an asterisk? He played for Milwall who are hated by almost every football supporter in England. Kerry Dixon also played for Milwall, Jimmy Greaves went to star for Tottenham(though I admit he's more of a Spurs legend) John Hollins played for QPR and Arsenal! None of the players I've mentioned even come close to Lampard in terms of club status...

He's 36, we clearly didn't have a need for him, City did because they need homegrown players. He stays in England and collects a fat cheque before he heads off to the glue factory and while it may smart a bit, no true Chelsea supporter will look back at this even 10-15 yrs from now and think he's any less than a legend/hero/classy individual as he was before he signed for NY.

He will be welcomed back to the club with open arms and is a good candidate to sit on the board at some point. It smarts because its new but its a small blip on an illustrious Chelsea career.

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I'm neutral, but I agree with this. It is personal opinion and no one can change that. Even if I'm the biggest Lampard fans and think what Lampard done by joining our rival was not a big deal at all, I have to respect that there must be some other who might hate him because of that.

And I think it is really pointless and unnecessary thing to insult each other because what they are think is right and others wrong. Can we just accept that?

Agreed. I just think its so short sighted that you turn your back on a legend because at 36 he's sitting on our title challengers bench... City aren't even rivals really. I had far too many fond memories of Frank to have this minor blip keep him from coming back to the club at some point.

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Jose Mourinho says Victoria’s Secret fashion show more competitive than Spurs at Stamford Bridge

http://www.dirtytackle.net/2014/12/04/future-news-jose-mourinho-says-victorias-secret-fashion-show-more-competitive-than-spurs-at-stamford-bridge/

:P

lol

double lol

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Mourinho: Full of trust

Jose Mourinho says his side are ready for tomorrow’s game at Newcastle United, our third in the space of a week, and the Blues boss has no concerns over the absence of Nemanja Matic.

Speaking at his pre-match press conference at Cobham, the Portuguese, whose side will set a club record of 24 games unbeaten if we avoid defeat, insisted the only objective is to secure three points.

‘I’m not looking for records, I’m looking for victories, points and if possible at the end of the season, titles. We just want to win the next match, that’s all,’ said Mourinho.

‘It’s a difficult stadium to play at, there are a few stadiums in this country that clearly when they see Chelsea shirts they play the game of their lives and when they play other teams they look like they are playing friendlies. Maybe it’s because, in the last decade, Chelsea have become a strong team everybody wants to beat.

‘We are ready for tomorrow and the only record I want is to win the title three times with this club.’

The manager confirmed Gary Cahill is fit and available for selection having been taken off at half-time during Wednesday’s 3-0 win over Tottenham following a collision with Jan Vertonghen, while also stating Diego Costa will lead the line having been suspended in midweek.

There will be a change to personnel in midfield, with either John Mikel Obi or Ramires expected to come in for Matic, who serves a one-match ban.

‘It’s another big player who is not playing but we trust other people,’ said Mourinho. ‘Matic has a free weekend, which he deserves very much, and he will come back stronger. Other people will play, we trust them so no problem.

‘Diego was also important for us but he didn’t play [against Tottenham] and we didn’t think about him.

‘Matic’s last yellow card was because a fellow player lost the ball and he had to make a defensive transition. Sometimes the referees give a yellow card when a player stops a counter attack, sometimes they don’t.

‘Mike Dean decided to give him one, which is acceptable, I just hope that in every game when opponents make fouls on our players when we start developing counter attacks the referees do the same. When you stop a counter attack you should get a yellow card so Mike was correct.’

Didier Drogba produced an impressive display against Tottenham, laying on the first goal for Eden Hazard before scoring the second, and Mourinho believes the Ivorian still has much to offer in a playing capacity.

‘I don’t know his qualities as a coach because I’ve never seen him coach,’ said the Blues boss.

‘He’s still a very good player and if he wants my advice I think he should stop when he wants to, not wait for me or the club to decide.

‘We want him, we love him. After that, I know Mr Abramovich is very happy to keep him at the club in any area he feels useful and happy, but that’s after he makes the decision to stop his career, which I don’t think will be tomorrow.’

http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2014/12/mourinho--full-of-trust.html

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So because at the end of his career when he had no use to us at the age of 36, he went to collect a cheque and sit on the City bench now he has an asterisk next to his name? LOL Does Dennis Wise have an asterisk? He played for Milwall who are hated by almost every football supporter in England. Kerry Dixon also played for Milwall, Jimmy Greaves went to star for Tottenham(though I admit he's more of a Spurs legend) John Hollins played for QPR and Arsenal! None of the players I've mentioned even come close to Lampard in terms of club status...

You answered that point yourself. They don't come close, that's why they're not significant enough to care about (with the greatest respects to them).. They never had the admiration Chelsea fans have for Lampard. He knew that as well, prior to leaving he acknowledged that admiration, that's why he said he wouldn't play for another Premier League club again[1]. He knew that his name would be held in legendary breath alongside Cech, Drogba & Terry and still decided to go back on his word.

no true Chelsea supporter will look back at this even 10-15 yrs from now and think he's any less than a legend/hero/classy individual as he was before he signed for NY.

If classy means saying one thing and going back on that, to your own fans, well then..

[1]http://talksport.com/sports-news/football/premier-league/130520/exclusive-frank-lampard-reveals-he-would-never-leave-chelsea-premier-lea-1979

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Mourinho: "There are a few clubs where, clearly, they see the Chelsea shirt and they make it the game of their lives – and when they play other teams they look like like are playing friendlies."

I'm glad he said it because that has been obvious for a while. Look at Sunderland: they were fucking queuing up to throw themselves at the ball against Chelsea but didn't put in anywhere near the same level of effort against City. :lol:

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You answered that point yourself. They don't come close, that's why they're not significant enough to care about (with the greatest respects to them).. They never had the admiration Chelsea fans have for Lampard. He knew that as well, prior to leaving he acknowledged that admiration, that's why he said he wouldn't play for another Premier League club again[1]. He knew that his name would be held in legendary breath alongside Cech, Drogba & Terry and still decided to go back on his word.

If classy means saying one thing and going back on that, to your own fans, well then..

[1]http://talksport.com/sports-news/football/premier-league/130520/exclusive-frank-lampard-reveals-he-would-never-leave-chelsea-premier-lea-1979

This belongs in the locked Lampard thread so I'm not going to continue on with this much more. I made my point and you guys aren't acknowledging and are starting to mince words. The fans still sing songs about Dennis Wise damn near every match! SO because Lamps is a bigger legend he now doesn't get the same adulation? that is so ridiculous I don't even know how to address that.

I guess in time, perhaps not for you, we will see just how loved Frank is at the club. What he's done for Chelsea can never be tainted by sitting on City's bench at the age of 36.

Had it been Liverpool, Arsenal, Utd or Tottenham the case might be stronger but even then I doubt he'd be vilified for playing elsewhere at 36. If I'm truly in the minority I will GLADLY accept that because what he's done for me and my club far outweighs anything negative he can do at City, and yes that includes scoring a late equalizer.

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I'm glad he said it because that has been obvious for a while. Look at Sunderland: they were fucking queuing up to throw themselves at the ball against Chelsea but didn't put in anywhere near the same level of effort against City. :lol:

You really think they had the energy to put in that sort of effort against City 3 days later? Come on... City haven't won there in 5 matches before this one.

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If I'm truly in the minority I will GLADLY accept that because what he's done for me and my club far outweighs anything negative he can do at City, and yes that includes scoring a late equalizer.

Fair enough, at least there's some recognition that there are many people who feel negatively (even those that go to the Bridge.. I remember one hero member making SB to be like an Ultra stadium)

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