The Mourinho Thread

[Rhino's Skin 972]

The word is Simeone has grave concerns about our squad and wants massive changes if he was ever to come here.

So if he is going to be like Mourinho without the loyalty to underperforming players (never thought id ever say that line about Jose) then that suits me down to the ground.

Didn't Courtois say something along the lines of Simeone and Mourinho being similar but the Atletico coach is more defensive minded?

Good grief....didn't realise that was possible

[didierforever 7,349]

Conversely, what happens if we appoint the next AVB and he fails to improve us at all? What if Mourinho goes to United (people keep deluding themselves into thinking he wouldn't go there) and makes them an unstoppable force again whilst City get Guardiola?

I'd reluctantly sack him if I was sure the future would be bright, but that would require us hiring Ancelotti/Pep/Klopp. Two of those are impossible and as of today the third looks impossible too. Every other candidate either has question marks (Hiddink, Emery, Conte etc) or are complete jokes like Juande Ramos.

I get that people want us to improve but we can't think just about the short term. What happens if next season and beyond we have to be going against a Pep led City, Mourinho led United, Wenger's Arsenal who finally look like legit contenders, a Klopp led Liverpool who will grow leaps and bounds, and now even Spuds are getting it together under Poch? We could be completely left behind and set back for years.

I myself was one of the "José out" guys

after this latest result but if we're thinking about appointing one of these clown candidates then I'd rather just stick with him and give him total authority to change the squad over the next two windows.

in that case, we should not sell jose even if we get relegated, right? cos no one else has a CV like his. what was luis enrique's CV before he joined barca? the only clown candidate is jose mourinho himself. any half decent manager in the world would be having us walking the PL. we dont have an identity, we dont have any youth integration despite hving the best youth talents in the world, and we are 16th in PL with 15 points in 16 games.

tell me on what basis do you think that jose is a better candidate to take us forward than these "clown candidates"? please give me your arguments. also, if jose is leading united next season then i will be happy cos i will know united will be a circus. yes, they will win 1 title in his firt 2 years but after that, he will tear the club down from the inside. talents like jones, smalling, martial, shaw etc etc will be DESTROYED. players like lingard who are looking so good, will suddenly not be "ready" for first team action. i am sorry but people keep giving the "it could be worse" argument, but they need to answer how it will get better under jose.

its not people who are jst thinking about short term. its our fucking manager who is doing that.

selling future stars like kdb, lukaku, selling some very good players like bertrand and mata and replacing them with cesc and luis.

[didierforever 7,349]

Didn't Courtois say something along the lines of Simeone and Mourinho being similar but the Atletico coach is more defensive minded?

Good grief....didn't realise that was possible

ATM is a very good attacking unit. watch them play. yes, they have the tendency to close shop at 1-0 and go on the counter after that, but look at them play and try to open up defenses which is generally very good and a lot of it is down to their attacking ploys.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

ATM is a very good attacking unit. watch them play. yes, they have the tendency to close shop at 1-0 and go on the counter after that, but look at them play and try to open up defenses which is generally very good and a lot of it is down to their attacking ploys.

Dont shoot the messenger....

But Simeone = hope for Costa

[didierforever 7,349]

Dont shoot the messenger....

But Simeone = hope for Costa

joe cole had said that pool is the best club in england or something like that. players say stupid things for the sake of it for their current clubs. just saying.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

joe cole had said that pool is the best club in england or something like that. players say stupid things for the sake of it for their current clubs. just saying.

Joe Cole refused to use the Liverpool script and was led into saying something he had no intention of saying

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/27/joe-cole-says-liverpool-thought-they-were-bigger-than-chelsea-4812154/

[didierforever 7,349]

Joe Cole refused to use the Liverpool script and was led into saying something he had no intention of saying

exactly my point. players will say stuff which puts their current employers in a good light.

anyone who watches ATM on a consistent basis, will know for sure that their attack is far more drilled and way better than us and not just based on individual brilliance.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

exactly my point. players will say stuff which puts their current employers in a good light.

anyone who watches ATM on a consistent basis, will know for sure that their attack is far more drilled and way better than us and not just based on individual brilliance.

He actually didnt say they were the best or biggest club

But anyway, back on point with Courtois and Mourinho....dont think he was saying it to please one club over another as he praised them both

All he said was that Simeone is more defensive minded which is not a criticism at all.

And as he knows both men personally and their thought process with training, then I suggest he knows more than you or I

[didierforever 7,349]

He actually didnt say they were the best or biggest club

But anyway, back on point with Courtois and Mourinho....dont think he was saying it to please one club over another as he praised them both

the interviewer asked said '“you’ve joined the biggest club in the country” and reeled off the trophies they’d won'. to which cole answered, 'Yeah, if you put it like that, I suppose you’re right' and Liverpool used that as the headline to the interview. obviously no player is going to bad mouth their current employ. i am not sure exactly what tibo had said, but i would rather believe my own eyes and something which is so apparently clear as the day and night on which team is better in attack.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

the interviewer asked said '“you’ve joined the biggest club in the country” and reeled off the trophies they’d won'. to which cole answered, 'Yeah, if you put it like that, I suppose you’re right' and Liverpool used that as the headline to the interview. obviously no player is going to bad mouth their current employ. i am not sure exactly what tibo had said, but i would rather believe my own eyes and something which is so apparently clear as the day and night on which team is better in attack.

So he didnt actually say it did he.

And you are confusing the way they think ( whst Courtous was alluding too) with the way their teams play at this moment in time

[Parky 739]

What about bringing Ranieri back for next season?

[didierforever 7,349]

So he didnt actually say it did he.

he agrees with "joining the biggest club in the country". did not he?

[Rhino's Skin 972]

he agrees with "joining the biggest club in the country". did not he?

Am afraid this is where different ways of expressing English mean different things.

Joe Cole as a Chelsea supporter was saying that like a 'whatever' statement.

Wasnt agreeing at all

[Spike 12,049]

joe cole had said that pool is the best club in england or something like that. players say stupid things for the sake of it for their current clubs. just saying.

He didn't actually. He was asked if he agreed that 'Historically, Liverpool are the most successful club in England', he responded 'I suppose if you put it like that, yeah.'

[didierforever 7,349]

Am afraid this is where different ways of expressing English mean different things.

Joe Cole as a Chelsea supporter was saying that like a 'whatever' statement.

Wasnt agreeing at all

hence what i wrote above "obviously no player is going to bad mouth their current employ. i am not sure exactly what tibo had said, but i would rather believe my own eyes and something which is so apparently clear as the day and night on which team is better in attack."

[Rhino's Skin 972]

You dont get it do you.

We are not talking about which team is better in attack.......we are talking about which manager has a more defensive thought process. Courtois said they are similar but Simeone thinks more defensively.

[Tomo 21,751]

You dont get it do you.

We are not talking about which team is better in attack.......we are talking about which manager has a more defensive thought process. Courtois said they are similar but Simeone thinks more defensively.

Maybe he was saying who sets up better defensively? As Tibo during his time with both managers he had a lot more protection in Spain.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Maybe he was saying who sets up better defensively? As Tibo during his time with both managers he had a lot more protection in Spain.

Maybe.....we all know that Simeone protects the back 3rd tactically very well and obviously drills his players into that thought process.

But am glad you didnt have to bring in othet factors such as a Joe Cole interview to support your point ;-)

[didierforever 7,349]

You dont get it do you.

We are not talking about which team is better in attack.......we are talking about which manager has a more defensive thought process. Courtois said they are similar but Simeone thinks more defensively.

can u give me a link to that interview

all i could find is this http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2209081.html

which has nothing of that sort.

also, in that way, i feel pep has a more defensive thought process than jose. pep uses attack/possession to slow the game down and bore the other team to death. but irrespective of that, they can actually teach their respective teams on how to attack.

[DDA 9,943]

I know who i would like to see here.. But the time isn't now.

Jimmy Floyd ?