Tomo 21,751 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 If he returns, by October this won't even feel like a second coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Mourinho could not win a UCL with Real Madrid squad, I dont know why they will do any better with Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Mourinho could not win a UCL with Real Madrid squad, I dont know why they will do any better with Chelsea.Let's ignore his UCL wins with Porto and Inter then shall we... Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 The madrid team clearly has no chemistry and divided, it is so obvious in the way they play, no unity whatsoever. Alot of big personality in the dressing room, half of them hates Mou, alot of the fans hate him, the media hates him. Not sure how you can do a job in that environment. The Skipper, Pizy, Manilla Brawler and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,902 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Also keep in mind that the RM locker room seemed worse than ours was under AVB. If the players didnt like him or want to play for him it's kinda hard to win the most difficult competition there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behemoth 266 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Mourinho could not win a UCL with Real Madrid squad, I dont know why they will do any better with Chelsea.Because this is only a shadow of the real man. Can't you tell? Its obvious just looking at him, let alone his demeanor and his interviews. He's not happy, nor is he truly in his element.Chelsea revives the former manager. Couple that with the increased resources at his disposal and I can promise you he will succeed much more than he ever did with Real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Mourinho could not win a UCL with Real Madrid squad, I dont know why they will do any better with Chelsea.CL is a lottery, he won it with Porto and Inter, but didn't with Real and one of the best squad's in the history of English football.Barca are getting touted as the best team ever, yet Jose managed to beat them to the title and (as good as) sealed it in their own back yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Summer of Mourinho, Moutinho, Varane and Shaw would be dream although Varane seems highly unlikelyStriker more needed than Varane and Shaw. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Let's ignore his UCL wins with Porto and Inter then shall we...He won a UCL with Porto in 2004 and a UCL with Inter in 2010, not sure if football is the same as it was 10 or 4 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Mourinho could not win a UCL with Real Madrid squad, I dont know why they will do any better with Chelsea.He isn't Special One for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 CL is a lottery, he won it with Porto and Inter, but didn't with Real and one of the best squad's in the history of English football.Barca are getting touted as the best team ever, yet Jose managed to beat them to the title and (as good as) sealed it in their own back yard.Indeed, but RDM managed to do the same.Dont get me wrong, my question is valid, I dont think Mourinho is the messiah everybody think he is, many will point the reasons why Mourinho failed with Real (yeah, he got one La Liga with Real, but winning La Liga with Real is far from a big deal, even Bern Schuster managed to to the same), perhaps the squad was divided, or he was unhappy with the press and this kind of thing.But thats not excuse, in Chelsea he might face the same problems or even worst, he will never get the total control he seeks, even in his first tenure he had to accept Shevchenko and Ballack, and could not get a CB he wanted back in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I feel he was never realy Real Madrid coach. He had that fame and popularity but he made Real more of a celebrity club. Real needs classy manager, calm and someone who realy belongs there (imagine Del Bosque). Im not saying Mou isnt classy or anything, but he is centre of attention and biggest celebrity among coaches. His style was wrong for real too. Counter attacks are main tactic he is using and opens his play only when losing. If Real played with attacking football first match, there would be no doubt of finalist between Rm and Bvb. Real players should have mentality to keep the ball and pass it around. Mou closed their play too much and there is result. I am not sure how will Mou fit here but two things are certain; we will play on counter attacks and we will play better football in general (not necessary nicer, but more successful). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Mourinho could not win a UCL with Real Madrid squad, I dont know why they will do any better with Chelsea.Because each year is a different story and to be quite fair, he got very very close the last two years (comming down to CR7, Kaka and Ramos missing penalties or Ozil and Higuain missing 2-3 huge opportunities)...We can't tell if he will do any better of if he will lose 3 straight SFs again. However, he is our best shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Yes, he speaks french quite well.Alright, because he always says that he will never coach in a country where he doesnt know the language... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Indeed, but RDM managed to do the same.Dont get me wrong, my question is valid, I dont think Mourinho is the messiah everybody think he is, many will point the reasons why Mourinho failed with Real (yeah, he got one La Liga with Real, but winning La Liga with Real is far from a big deal, even Bern Schuster managed to to the same), perhaps the squad was divided, or he was unhappy with the press and this kind of thing.But thats not excuse, in Chelsea he might face the same problems or even worst, he will never get the total control he seeks, even in his first tenure he had to accept Shevchenko and Ballack, and could not get a CB he wanted back in 2007.Very harsh to say he failed with Real. Domestically, I don't think any other manager could have done any better considering how strong the current Barca team.In Europe though, it has been disappointing, not a failure though. CL is so hard to win and to say if one doesn't win it over a span of just 3 years is a failure is naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Very harsh to say he failed with Real. Domestically, I don't think any other manager could have done any better considering how strong the current Barca team.In Europe though, it has been disappointing, not a failure though. CL is so hard to win and to say if one doesn't win it over a span of just 3 years is a failure is naive.with the kind of investment Madrid made in last 3 years, I would say it was a failure, just ask what Madrid fans think about his tenure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Many people see Mourinhos words in press conference today as an assumption that he is set to go back to Chelsea, imo it was more like a "please, come and get me".Not sure if Roman still loves him that much. Rmpr and Bir_CFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Many people see Mourinhos words in press conference today as an assumption that he is set to go back to Chelsea, imo it was more like a "please, come and get me". Not sure if Roman still loves him that much. Yeah, this is exactly what I said a few pages back: Now this almost seems like he's trying to force an interview for the Chelsea job, tells me Chelsea hasn't shown any interest in him. If we had then in his mind it would have been a done deal and he would have just given the same "Wait till summer." Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 1, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted May 1, 2013 Now onto the rumored transfers...Pepe: I dont like him at all. I think he is a bad defender and uses violence not because he is violent (which he is), but because he cant stop other players with clean tackles. Him at CB would be risky due to the fact EPL refs love to fuck with Chelsea. For me, a big no. I prefer someone like Subotic. However, he has the same agent as Mourinho, so this is why he will probably come. As far as price, he was bought for 30 mi euros and Real is not a great seller, so I think it will be something around 20-23mi euros.Moutinho: I fucking love this guy and he is the perfect DLP for us. He will do absolutely great, specially with José as the head coach. The 20mi pounds that is being speculated is spot on in my view.Di Maria: He is everything we need to complement Hazard and Mata, wow, would be a dream. Strong, fast, work horse, can cross, dribble, etc. However, he is fucking expensive, I am guessing around 40mi, ouch!Falcao: I have been through this before. He is no Cavani, but he is no scrub. People love to make him bad just because of his price tag, but he isn't bad and he wont be a flop (Mourinho wont let that happen). Still, he is fucking dam expensive, 53mi? Jesus! Although, whatever happens, don't deny you would all love for Torres not be our all time most expensive player....Loanees: More than these 4 great signings, I want to see Chalobah and KDB back. I really, really do. They have deserved it, lets not waist those two excellent prospects. The rest (Courtois, Wallace, Ake, Josh, Piazon and Lukaku) should be loaned and carefully watched.Outs: I see no more space for Torres, Marin, Malouda, Benayoun, Kakuta and Turnbull. They should all go. With Jose, I see a hope for Essien, Lampard, Cole, Terry and Cech though... EDIT: We dont really know if Mourinho will come and if these will be the potential transfer targets. I am just playing with the rumors! yuvala, BlueDude, Bir_CFC and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Many people see Mourinhos words in press conference today as an assumption that he is set to go back to Chelsea, imo it was more like a "please, come and get me".Not sure if Roman still loves him that much. Exactly how I feel, but you cant deny that is a big statement still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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