🇪🇸 Pedro Rodríguez

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, kellzfresh said:

Pedro is better than Willian in his off the ball movement and runs, but I know Willian is poor in decision making a lot of the time but he's still better on the ball than Pedro. And since this new formation allows the 3 forwards come inside and swap with each other, Willian could thrive in this formation because I've never really liked him as a right winger. 

Both have their strengths and weaknesses but given the other front 2 are Hazard and Costa, I do wonder if Pedro is more suited than Willian to play in the attacking 3. Hazard and Willian are a little bit similar whereas with Pedro, he'll always provide that off the ball threat - something that Costa and Hazard don't often do.

[-Kaplan- 410]

His touch is shocking. It results in a throw-in for the opposition. I do agree with the idea of his off-the-ball movement being better than Willian though. 

[Special Juan 28,141]

Carries the ball very well, much better than Willian. When he receives it his first thought is to drive at the player and not stop.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Anyone notice how many times he nicked the ball in dangerous areas vs United? Keep it up Pedro!

[Dazzy_Vance 454]

I like Pedro, but man, imagine how much better we would be with a player of equal quality to Hazard on the RW. Willian and Pedro just aren't good enough.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

No wonder they all look like reborn players under Conte. His methods and the fact that he is ready to give a chance to any player regardless of his name & age has brought new levels of motivation and self belief inside the squad. 

[Special Juan 28,141]

12 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

No wonder they all look like reborn players under Conte. His methods and the fact that he is ready to give a chance to any player regardless of his name & age has brought new levels of motivation and self belief inside the squad. 

Very refreshing. Not only that but say Chalobah and RLC start tonight, you just know that even if they do not play great they will not be hung out to dry or singled out, he works with players and strikes me as a real peoples person.

[the wes 7,212]

Pedro was chasing for Barcelona return in the summer 

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/chelsea/story/2981685/chelseas-pedro-admits-to-holding-summer-talks-with-barcelona

[manpe 10,861]

On 25/10/2016 at 5:29 PM, Jason said:

Both have their strengths and weaknesses but given the other front 2 are Hazard and Costa, I do wonder if Pedro is more suited than Willian to play in the attacking 3. Hazard and Willian are a little bit similar whereas with Pedro, he'll always provide that off the ball threat - something that Costa and Hazard don't often do.

That is an excellent point. Willian and Hazard both operate more inside as playmakers, but when you have no runners then your playmakers can suffer. Pedro is the runner we lost with Schürrle, speaking of which I now think that having Schürrle here would have been great with Conte. We let go some really good players who would have been of great use right now. Pedro is not the best player in the world, but we need him in this collective not least because of lack of an alternative to someone who brings what he brings to the team. He's an unselfish team player with a great drive to do well whenever given the opportunity, let's recognize that when we also slate him for his deficiencies that he certainly has.

Edited October 26, 2016 by manpe

[Tomo 21,751]

21 hours ago, manpe said:

That is an excellent point. Willian and Hazard both operate more inside as playmakers, but when you have no runners then your playmakers can suffer. Pedro is the runner we lost with Schürrle, speaking of which I now think that having Schürrle here would have been great with Conte. We let go some really good players who would have been of great use right now. Pedro is not the best player in the world, but we need him in this collective not least because of lack of an alternative to someone who brings what he brings to the team. He's an unselfish team player with a great drive to do well whenever given the opportunity, let's recognize that when we also slate him for his deficiencies that he certainly has.

Let's just say there is a reason Pep kept picking him and it took someone as extraordinary as Suarez to kick him on the bench. As you alluded too his game compliments technical players quite well, and with a positive attacking system in place could link up and compliment Hazard like he did Messi.

Last season he was being told/asked to make things happen, not his game, it's like signing Dybala and telling him to play on the shoulder of the last defender.

[manpe 10,861]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Let's just say there is a reason Pep kept picking him and it took someone as extraordinary as Suarez to kick him on the bench. As you alluded too his game compliments technical players quite well, and with a positive attacking system in place could link up and compliment Hazard like he did Messi.

Last season he was being told/asked to make things happen, not his game, it's like signing Dybala and telling him to play on the shoulder of the last defender.

Last season he was completely out of his depth, constantly picking the ball from deep and trying to dribble up (or in one instant dribbling backwards to concede a corner, honest mistake lol). You know who I blame for lack of any attacking cohesion last season. I'm looking forward to seeing what Pedro has to offer when acclimatized to a proper attacking system.

[the wes 7,212]

2 minutes ago, manpe said:

Last season he was completely out of his depth, constantly picking the ball from deep and trying to dribble up (or in one instant dribbling backwards to concede a corner, honest mistake lol). You know who I blame for lack of any attacking cohesion last season. I'm looking forward to seeing what Pedro has to offer when acclimatized to a proper attacking system.

Who would u play against Southampton Willian or Pedro?? 

[manpe 10,861]

7 minutes ago, the wes said:

Who would u play against Southampton Willian or Pedro?? 

Probably Pedro because I like the directness he offers. It's not an educated opinion because I don't know Soton's characteristics, maybe Willian would be better, maybe not. A lot also depends on Willian's mental state right now. I would anyway play the same line-up as against Utd.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

We all know this but it's worth repeating. Willian will have a hard time keeping Pedro Ledesma out of the team. He duplicated Hazard too much and doesn't have an appetite for goal. Pedro offers many different things. 

[Styles 9,790]

His best game for Chelsea by a country mile.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

1 minute ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

We all know this but it's worth repeating. Willian will have a hard time keeping Pedro Ledesma out of the team. He duplicated Hazard too much and doesn't have an appetite for goal. Pedro offers many different things. 

Dont fancy Pedro at all, but he's really proved me wrong these past few weeks.

 

Deserves his starting spot, and really growing into the league.

[Spike 12,049]

Proving everyone wrong one game at a time.

[DYC. 7,542]

Top notch.

I deserved that. I've been on his side for a long time. Playing higher up the pitch and that's where he belongs. Not saying he'll be brilliant but I've always argued him being a good player for the collective and a good tactical tool. He's looking like that now. Let's see how long he keeps it up.

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Made a point to come to this thread first. 

Ive been on his case basically the whole time he's been here, but today he was on fire! Honestly, if Hazard wasnt playing like a demigod he would be my MoM. The turn on Williams and the pass through to Costa in the first half was art. His backheel for hazard was perfect. He presses like a dog. Really mixed the snarling ditry work with exquisite skill, a metaphor for the team at the moment. 

 

Take bow pedro

 

 

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

The thing is some members of this wonderful forum need to give players time. There's something called assessing players based on potential and pedigree. There's also something called an eye test. Even when he wasn't playing well, the quality was there. Pedro has won the World cup and Champions leagues. And he's done that being a critical figure in some of those sides. He's 29 as well. How he all of a sudden became a shite, no-hoper in some of forum members' eyes was just way off. Same with Matic. Guy was arguably (certainly one of) the best CDM in Europe in our title winning season before he got overplayed and fatigued and so many people wanted to toss him into the garbage can. Wanted him sold. I can understand feeling that way about a constant disappointment like Oscar but we need to judge players sensibly sometimes.