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8 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I don't believe Marina selects the transfer targets. Do you?

As she is our DOF whose shoulders does it fall down on if not hers mate??

What I do think is by some decision - dog knows how, 'they' come up with a name they will target.

Granny being the penny pinscher that she is throws out some low ball offer that she must know will get laughed at and just make the next deals that much harder.

She might throw out some bigger bid but nowhere near the asking price which will obviously be turned down.

I can then imagine Granny thinking to herself " Well we need this player X who plays in such n such position.a player in X position. He is a lot of money,

I can go buy a player in that same position that a agent told be about for much cheaper.

 

It will be perfect. The manager gets a new player that it says in Whoscored has the same strengths, his youtubes look good and Roman will love me for saving him millions of squid! Win win all round!"

I wouldn't be at all surprised at that scenario.

When I AM really surprised is when we DO manage to put our hand in our pocket and step up for a player a la Kepa/Pully.

I would have much more faith in her and the board if she didn't take holidays during transfer windows, brought in a real DOF, sold our mass of unwanted players to put the money towards strengthening our 1st team.

That WOULD be good business.

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19 hours ago, Unionjack said:

As she is our DOF whose shoulders does it fall down on if not hers mate??

On the person, or persons, who do make the footballing decisions.

I've written many times about who I think that is but I don't even have any evidence, never mind proof. I have also written many times about the fact that, were I in Roman's position, I would be making all of the transfer decisions myself. I'd listen to advice and recommendations of course but in the end I'd decide. I can conceive of a situation where I might defer to an experienced football person in whose judgement I trusted but there's no way I'd give up my dream of selecting all of Chelsea's players to someone with zero credentials. I don't think Roman would either. What'd be the point? Where would the fun be in that? I might give someone else the responsibility of handling the boring business side of deals but the fun part? No chance.

19 hours ago, Unionjack said:

Granny being the penny pinscher that she is throws out some low ball offer that she must know will get laughed at and just make the next deals that much harder.

Then why hasn't Roman sacked her? Vesper's answer to that question is that Marina has some blackmail material over her boss. I don't remember Vesper's response to my follow up point which was why, if you have such powerful influence over a billionaire, why waste it on getting a job for which you are not qualified? One from the performance of which, you wouldn't gain a single scrap of prestige or self-esteem?  Why not take some other, equally well paid, position on the board. One that didn't entail actually working?

 

19 hours ago, Unionjack said:

I can then imagine Granny thinking to herself " Well we need this player X who plays in such n such position.a player in X position. He is a lot of money,

I can go buy a player in that same position that a agent told be about for much cheaper.

It's possible but, for me to believe that I'd have to believe that Marina is an extremely stupid individual. I don't believe that and I've seen no evidence to cause me to doubt that opinion. 

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50 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

On the person, or persons, who do make the footballing decisions.

I've written many times about who I think that is but I don't even have any evidence, never mind proof. I have also written many times about the fact that, were I in Roman's position, I would be making all of the transfer decisions myself. I'd listen to advice and recommendations of course but in the end I'd decide. I can conceive of a situation where I might defer to an experienced football person in whose judgement I trusted but there's no way I'd give up my dream of selecting all of Chelsea's players to someone with zero credentials. I don't think Roman would either. What'd be the point? Where would the fun be in that? I might give someone else the responsibility of handling the boring business side of deals but the fun part? No chance.

Then why hasn't Roman sacked her? Vesper's answer to that question is that Marina has some blackmail material over her boss. I don't remember Vesper's response to my follow up point which was why, if you have such powerful influence over a billionaire, why waste it on getting a job for which you are not qualified? One from the performance of which, you wouldn't gain a single scrap of prestige or self-esteem?  Why not take some other, equally well paid, position on the board. One that didn't entail actually working?

 

It's possible but, for me to believe that I'd have to believe that Marina is an extremely stupid individual. I don't believe that and I've seen no evidence to cause me to doubt that opinion. 

Not blackmail per se. She is just part of the Sibneft mafia. Much dirty biz back in the day during Roman's rise to billionaire level. The history is not pretty. I am not winning any fans here by bringing it up, but I don't believe in gaslighting shit just because it involves my football team I love.

Zero chance Marina is stupid btw. You are spot on.

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Manchester City and Manchester Unitedwill need £102m to sign Paulo Dybala fromJuventus.

The Serie A champions have slapped a huge price tag on their prized asset, who has scored nine goals alongside Cristiano Ronaldo this term.

Corriere dello Sport understand Juve have a price in mind this summer, with Real Madrid also keen on the Argentine.

If hazard goes  we should go for dybala 

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11 minutes ago, the wes said:

Manchester City and Manchester Unitedwill need £102m to sign Paulo Dybala fromJuventus.

The Serie A champions have slapped a huge price tag on their prized asset, who has scored nine goals alongside Cristiano Ronaldo this term.

Corriere dello Sport understand Juve have a price in mind this summer, with Real Madrid also keen on the Argentine.

If hazard goes  we should go for dybala 

No brainer for 100 but with our board it will be deemed to expensive :(

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1 hour ago, the wes said:

Manchester City and Manchester Unitedwill need £102m to sign Paulo Dybala fromJuventus.

The Serie A champions have slapped a huge price tag on their prized asset, who has scored nine goals alongside Cristiano Ronaldo this term.

Corriere dello Sport understand Juve have a price in mind this summer, with Real Madrid also keen on the Argentine.

If hazard goes  we should go for dybala 

Also I read today Inter lower Icardi's price on 80m euros. 

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22 hours ago, the wes said:

Manchester City and Manchester Unitedwill need £102m to sign Paulo Dybala fromJuventus.

The Serie A champions have slapped a huge price tag on their prized asset, who has scored nine goals alongside Cristiano Ronaldo this term.

Corriere dello Sport understand Juve have a price in mind this summer, with Real Madrid also keen on the Argentine.

If hazard goes  we should go for dybala 

How we going to do that bud? Even if he was £1m and IF our amazing board said yeah great idea! theres a small matter of a ban to get round.

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5 hours ago, Unionjack said:

How we going to do that bud? Even if he was £1m and IF our amazing board said yeah great idea! theres a small matter of a ban to get round.

I do have faith that CAS will slap down the FIFA non-deferral ruling

after that, the shit could really hit the fan IF we fuck up the summer 2019 window that was newly gifted to us

if the deferral is in place and we do nothing, or fuck about

it wont be until 2021 we can fix things (start to)

that would be worse than just having the bans until 2020 (like it stands now)

if we don't get the window in summer 2019 I think we have to sell Eden and Willian anyway (around £150m is too much to shit away and can be spent in summer 2020) and just try like hell to keep CHO, recall some of the loan army ex starters, and tell Luiz and Giroud to accept a one year extension or GTFO. We could try that with Willian too, as he also walks on a free in 2020 and he is worth keeping for the ban year (we can still get around £30m for him in 2020, so £20m or so loss (versus a 2019 sale) is probably worth it, although selling him this summer would REALLY open up opportunity for CHO.

I can live with 6th place in 2019-20 IF we dont get the window and sell Eden and sack the smoker (he HAS to go, especially if no window). Maybe Real goes for Mane from the bin dippers instead and Hazard renews with us, who knows. I think even if RM bought Mane he will still leave on a free in 2020.

I also demand the club be sold ASAP. So done with the current regime and I do NOT want to be seized (a real danger as Russiagate drags on ad the yanks gear up for the 2020 Presidential race)

 

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On 19/03/2019 at 10:45 PM, NikkiCFC said:

Also I read today Inter lower Icardi's price on 80m euros. 

thats only £69m

a crazy steal  (less than we paid for Morata with add-ons)

anyone saying otherwise is just dead wrong

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6 hours ago, Vesper said:

thats only £69m

a crazy steal  (less than we paid for Morata with add-ons)

anyone saying otherwise is just dead wrong

There is a reason why Inter want shot of him. He would not work well here. Our Club is a joke as it is.

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47 minutes ago, DDA said:

There is a reason why Inter want shot of him. He would not work well here. Our Club is a joke as it is.

if not him, then Jovic or Werner or Dybala

with Haller following up as last resort

that's about it for actually available CF's of any type of high quality who are under 30 out there atm

massive drop off after those

we sooo fucked up not going for Krzysztof Piątek (although Jovic might be better, BUT Jovic will be so so gone if we dont win the deferral appeal and get a summer 2019 summer window)

its probably going to come down to (if Hig's loan cannot be extended for 12 months and that is looking shaky, say 60/40 it can be) just Tammy and Bats as Giroud now also want to leave

 

FUCK THE BOARD

 

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