Juan Cuadrado

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

No offence but this 'truth' talk is kinda BS. Some other managers would have been less stubborn and given players more chances to prove themselves as opposed to just write them off when things go south. It's fine Mourinho has good relationship with the players but doesn't mean it's fine if he's letting them affect his management of the players. Mind you, if this situation was the way round, would be saying the exact same thing.

Ancelotti refused to play the likes of Matic, Sturridge...etc. Pep refused to give Thiago many chances, his successors did the same so he wanted to leave. Simeones also has his best team, the likes of Adrian...etc eventually had to leave for 1st team football even though continuously impress for them when called upon. All the top managers are the same, some are more fair than others but overall they can't please all the players.

It is up to the players to prove themselves, patience and wait for their chance. For example Ramires benched for 2 months, didn't complain and now soon will be starting big games against because of injury to Fabregas...etc. I agree that sometime things are just not meant to be.

[Jase 43,479]

Ancelotti refused to play the likes of Matic, Sturridge...etc. Pep refused to give Thiago many chances, his successors did the same so he wanted to leave. Simeones also has his best team, the likes of Adrian...etc eventually had to leave for 1st team football even though continuously impress for them when called upon. All the top managers are the same, some are more fair than others but overall they can't please all the players.

Doesn't mean they were right though.

It is up to the players to prove themselves, patience and wait for their chance. For example Ramires benched for 2 months, didn't complain and now soon will be starting big games against because of injury to Fabregas...etc. I agree that sometime things are just not meant to be.

You forgot to mention that Ramires was out injured for quite some time. He wasn't benched for 2 months.

Mind you, Schurrle, Salah etc haven't even moaned once despite getting limited game time (unlike some of our players in the past).

[LAM09 6,744]

Looks like a deal is almost done. I have a feeling this window might be one of our worst for a few reasons.

Time will tell.

[Jase 43,479]

I believe if we want Cuadrado to feature in some capacity against Manchester City, we would have to sign and register in the squad by 12pm UK time tomorrow.

[ChelseaFC12 134]

Looks like a deal is almost done. I have a feeling this window might be one of our worst for a few reasons.

Time will tell.

Be optimist not pessimist.

[Jase 43,479]

Be optimist not pessimist.

Or some might call it, a realist.

[Term-X 7,891]

Waiting for the 'he is overpriced, shit...etc' brigade to come out now...Lets get Costa for 30m shouldn't we...Stop dreaming about Reus, HE WILL NEVER JOIN CHELSEA. Deal with it.

Remember what people were saying right before we signed Costa?

United & City were favourites to sign Hazard, we were the underdogs.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

United & City were favourites to sign Hazard, we were the underdogs.

Yep thanks to winning the CL unexpectedly. Oh that and paying £6m agent fee+ £170k per week for Hazard. City was odd on favorite for him, he even came to Manchester to look for houses. It was a coup, don't think the club want to do the same with Reus because of his recent injuries and huge wages demands probably since 20m is too cheap. His agent would also most likely demand a Hazard type fee too.

His best position is also LW/CAM or ST anyway, Schurrle was a good LW too and turns out he can't really do it on the right as well. I think that is why we are not even gonna bother competing for him.

[Sheva. 5,373]

If we want a winger we should go for someone who is a step above what we have, not similar level or worse. Reus, Griezmann, Turan, Koke, all players who are much better than Willian and probably would be at a similar price if clubs were convinced to sell them.

This thread is filled with people giving unrealistic alternatives.

Reus is not going anywhere right now, and our chances of getting are rather slim with Bayern and Madrid in the race.

Griezmann has not even played a full season for Atletico.

Turan is slow (Mourinho loves his fast wingers) and barely has better stats than Cuadrado.

Koke is a genius but I don't see him as a winger - he plays in midfield for Spain and I believe any other team that signs him would use him there also.

Anyway last summer was our chance to sign a RW, we didn't. Now we're just settling for what looks like one of the best options available.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

We can still sell him and replace him in summer if things dont work well

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Funny thing is we assume someone like Koke or Grizemann would be cheap haha. Sorry people Koke 50m release clause last I check, don't know about Griz but considering they paid 25m themselves last summer I would think a min similar figure would be for Griz as well. Turan is slow, great technically but slow as fuck.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

This thread is filled with people giving unrealistic alternatives.

Reus is not going anywhere right now, and our chances of getting are rather slim with Bayern and Madrid in the race.

Griezmann has not even played a full season for Atletico.

Turan is slow (Mourinho loves his fast wingers) and barely has better stats than Cuadrado.

Koke is a genius but I don't see him as a winger - he plays in midfield for Spain and I believe any other team that signs him would use him there also.

Anyway last summer was our chance to sign a RW, we didn't. Now we're just settling for what looks like one of the best options available.

After us signing Hazard when it seemed he was going to either Manchester United or Manchester City, I don't think its impossible to not sign anybody except Messi or Ronaldo.

Funny thing is we assume someone like Koke or Grizemann would be cheap haha. Sorry people Koke 50m release clause last I check, don't know about Griz but considering they paid 25m themselves last summer I would think a min similar figure would be for Griz as well. Turan is slow, great technically but slow as fuck.

I'd prefer we spent 40M on the right player as opposed to 30M on a player we are only wanting because Schurrle/Salah are being sold.

[LAM09 6,744]

Be optimist not pessimist.

I'm just stating how I feel.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

After us signing Hazard when it seemed he was going to either Manchester United or Manchester City, I don't think its impossible to not sign anybody except Messi or Ronaldo.

I'd prefer we spent 40M on the right player as opposed to 30M on a player we are only wanting because Schurrle/Salah are being sold.

Who is the 'right' player you are thinking of? Here are the players that we could argue is better than Cuadrado atm:

Robben, Bale, James, Muller, Sanchez, Koke, Turan, Grizemann, Ribery, Neymar, Reus, Isco

Out of these players who can play perfectly on RW, who would be the best AND POSSIBLE TO GET? apart from Reus no one...

[bababoom 4,478]

Accelerated sudden, Chelsea gets his hands on Cuadrado. The agreements are already defined, as well as details of recruitment and those related to the cost of the card of the Colombian. The only thing missing to define the compensation technique that will arrive in Florence, or Salah, they speak of loan dry by blues. The company Abramovich, as said, wants to up the tempo: we already arrived in the drafting of contracts and - even - Mourinho wants the boy already available for the match of the weekend. Rapid negotiation, that is ready to take off: Cuadrado to England, Chelsea awaits him.

(Used Google translate so may not make total sense)

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Accelerated sudden, Chelsea gets his hands on Cuadrado. The agreements are already defined, as well as details of recruitment and those related to the cost of the card of the Colombian. The only thing missing to define the compensation technique that will arrive in Florence, or Salah, they speak of loan dry by blues. The company Abramovich, as said, wants to up the tempo: we already arrived in the drafting of contracts and - even - Mourinho wants the boy already available for the match of the weekend. Rapid negotiation, that is ready to take off: Cuadrado to England, Chelsea awaits him.

(Used Google translate so may not make total sense)

Long version short: We want to conclude the deal tonight so we can register him by lunch time tomorrow in time for kick off against City. Wouldn't be surprised to see a picture of Cuadrado with Chelsea shirt before midnight today.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

Who is the 'right' player you are thinking of? Here are the players that we could argue is better than Cuadrado atm:

Robben, Bale, James, Muller, Sanchez, Koke, Turan, Grizemann, Ribery, Neymar, Reus, Isco

Out of these players who can play perfectly on RW, who would be the best AND POSSIBLE TO GET? apart from Reus no one...

Lol there are lots of players better than Cuadrado... its worth waiting to the summer because Willian does so much for the team and taking him out could be a stupid move unless its a major improvement on him like Hazard was on Malouda/Kalou. We missed a trick with Sanchez in the summer though, really did.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I guess Schurrle was already off last weekend when he wasnt even on bench. Our board was just trying to hide it untill we complete Cuadrado deal hoping we might get him for lower price. Not sure what happens if Salah leaves too. Costa/Sissoko/loan return/youth promotion or we gonna stick with one less player?