Pizy 18,917 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, chelseafan26 said: Really? This is based on what? His performance for us againt villa, newcastle and Bournemouth? Except for these teams, each and every game he has played for us, he has been average to poor. Oh wait, there was WBA too, his first game. Sorry if I dont agree with your assessment of pedro. And i wholeheartedly hope Conte does not agree too. No, I base that off of his pedigree and years of being a great player. It's his first season in a new league, new country, with new teammates, and in a year of massive upheaval at the club. Has he been fantastic? No. Has he done well enough to play a significant part next season? Yes. Cuadrado looked like a fish out of water here. At least with Pedro we know what we're getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, lucio said: agreed, he is too lightweight and sloppy to be of any use. and his finishing is usually dire too, except in a few easy games Exactly. This is not saying that Cuadrado seems any better, but it just baffles me that people use one yardstick to measure one player and a completely different one for another. Cuadrado was pathetic for his 300 odd minutes for us, Pedro was been beyond awful for a whole season except for against relegation candidates. For me, both are not good enough for chelsea and in case i do want to take a chance with one of them, I do it with cuadrado. He can play the wingback position, he can acrually produce something with the ball on his feet meanwhile pedro's USP is his movement which is mostly rendered useless with his finishing and with our style of play. 3 minutes ago, Pizy said: No, I base that off of his pedigree and years of being a great player. It's his first season in a new league, new country, with new teammates, and in a year of massive upheaval at the club. Has he been fantastic? No. Has he done well enough to play a significant part next season? Yes. Cuadrado looked like a fish out of water here. At least with Pedro we know what we're getting. It was cuadrado's first season in a new league, new country, new teammates, and he came in Janurary. How has he done enough to play a significant part next season? By being a below average useless player? If we want to do an encore of this season then sure Pedro is the best way to go forward. Pedro was a barcelona player, a player of the system. and he has looked every bit a player suited for a system. Not a player which is suited for ours. And i dont think that we are anywhere close to playing the barcelona system. So mate, I honestly dont understand how you can judge one player on 300 minutes with the same conditions while say pedro has been good enough despite his sub par shit performances all season long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Ahmed 528 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Debate:SHOULD CHELSEA KEEP JUAN CUADRADO? Quote Juan Cuadrado helped Juventus win their fifth Serie A title in a row last weekend. His been in fine form of late scoring some amazing goals most notably against Palermo and Bayern Munich in the Champions League. His approaching 40 appearances this season and at times has looked every part of the player which saw Chelsea pay Fiorentina £23million in January 2015 for his services. Juventus are keen to open talks with Chelsea over the permanent signing of the Colombian but new Chelsea manager Antonio Conte is considering bringing him back to Stamford Bridge for next season. Conte had time to watch the winger closely while visiting his old club as manager of the Italian national team in preparation for this summers European Championships. His a long time admirer, before Cuadrado moved to Chelsea he attempted to sign him while manager of Juve. Juve director Giuseppe Marotta has said his hopeful of persuading Chelsea to sell the winger this summer. “We have not held talks with Chelsea yet over Cuadrado, but it will be a complicated deal as well, just like with Morata,” he said. “Juan has been important to us, but he is only on loan. Chelsea are well stocked in his position, though, so we will try to make a deal.” If he does move on in the summer Chelsea are well stocked in Cuadrado’s playing position with the likes of Eden Hazard, Willian, Pedro and Kenedy who all operate on the wing. There’s also Victor Moses on loan at rivals West Ham who is set to return in June. When you see Cuadrado in the kind of form been showing this season it makes you wonder what happened during his time at Chelsea. Was it simply just a case of the Premier League being to physical and not for everyone or Mourinho’s tactics? TalkChelsea.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 On 26/04/2016 at 6:12 PM, CHOULO19 said: I don't follow transfer rumors, but are we linked with Bonucci? Seems a rather random one.. Morata I'd absolutely love to see here but I think it's unlikely he'd want to come next season with no CL football, and it's not like he has a special relation with Conte to be swayed. Would absolutely love to have either of those players. We have been linked with Bonucci several times. Although the possibility that he'd Join Chelsea seemed to have been reliably quashed, it resurfaced again this weekend. Like everyone else, I doubt that our stock is high enough to attract class A players. It is high enough however for agents to use our supposed interest for their own reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Conte chased Juan for almost two seasons at Juve, expect to see him back here next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,712 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 On 5/9/2016 at 11:01 PM, Steve said: Conte chased Juan for almost two seasons at Juve, expect to see him back here next season. Would be the right move too. This guy needs a chance. A proper one. People are so quick to jump on a player if he isn't immediately impactful. He has been superb at Juventus. In fact, he has been superb everywhere he has played apart from for Mourinho. Conte clearly sees something he likes in him, and I would trust his knack for it seeing what a magnificent job he has done everywhere he has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Thor said: Would be the right move too. This guy needs a chance. A proper one. People are so quick to jump on a player if he isn't immediately impactful. He has been superb at Juventus. In fact, he has been superb everywhere he has played apart from for Mourinho. Conte clearly sees something he likes in him, and I would trust his knack for it seeing what a magnificent job he has done everywhere he has been. Lol he was like Bambi on ice tho - every time I looked for him, he was on the floor ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Thor said: Would be the right move too. This guy needs a chance. A proper one. People are so quick to jump on a player if he isn't immediately impactful. He has been superb at Juventus. In fact, he has been superb everywhere he has played apart from for Mourinho. Conte clearly sees something he likes in him, and I would trust his knack for it seeing what a magnificent job he has done everywhere he has been. He has done a 'magnificent job' in Italian football. English football is a different beast. I wouldn't mind him coming back. But with Hazard and Willian already in the team, I'd rather cash in on him and buy a young and highly talented winger as a back-up/rotation player. Or better yet, bring back Musonda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I don't think he has been magnificent. Would cash in on him tbh. Even if the fee is 15m ish I would take it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,712 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 2 hours ago, DYC. said: He has done a 'magnificent job' in Italian football. English football is a different beast. I wouldn't mind him coming back. But with Hazard and Willian already in the team, I'd rather cash in on him and buy a young and highly talented winger as a back-up/rotation player. Or better yet, bring back Musonda. We were an offensively limited team. I want to see this guy given room to operate. The Italian league is a little bit slower and these fast wingers look a little better than most places, but he is a quality player. This myth of English football being a level above, or something special just isn't so. Cuadrado can be a successful player in this league, and with Conte in charge, I think he will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I still remember how cute he was trying to run with the ball to his feet and then falling out of nowhere. Must've been the emotion of running free, untamed on a football pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Thor said: We were an offensively limited team. I want to see this guy given room to operate. The Italian league is a little bit slower and these fast wingers look a little better than most places, but he is a quality player. This myth of English football being a level above, or something special just isn't so. Cuadrado can be a successful player in this league, and with Conte in charge, I think he will be. Never said English football is special but its' without a doubt a level above the Serie A. I wasn't even referring to the level of the league though. English football is faster and far more aggressive. A lot of Serie A imports don't do well in English football. Cuadrado was used for specific tactical set-ups and as an impact sub. He wasn't even a starter for Juve. He's a good player but he's a trial-and-error player. He'll produce a couple of good moments but also produce a lot of bad plays. A big reason for his 'inconsistency'. I've never seen him as player cut out for top level football and he hasn't been able to change my mind. He can be very dangerous because of his speed, agility and directness. Which makes him useful as a squad player. But his time in England suggests he's not suited to the game there, he's too slow in the mind. He was at his place at Fiorentina and teams of a similar level in my opinion. Salah for example is a slightly better player imo but he's not good enough either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 We were an offensively limited team. I want to see this guy given room to operate. The Italian league is a little bit slower and these fast wingers look a little better than most places, but he is a quality player. This myth of English football being a level above, or something special just isn't so. Cuadrado can be a successful player in this league, and with Conte in charge, I think he will be. I wouldn't go as far as calling him a quality player, but he's a good option to have. His physical presence (nonexistent) is the worry I have and it was evident under Mou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Buy Mahrez and be done with it....Keep one of Pedro/Cuadrado and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Watched him play for Columbia today against Peru and still not convinced he's good enough to be a first team player for us. His fast and quite strong but his balance, decision making and movement is below average. We won't win titles with players like this in our starting 11. Sell him and use the funds to raise the quality in our starting 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,272 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I once saw a defender look at him the wrong way and he fell over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickaaa7 10 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 He Stays ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Juventus are in talks with Chelsea to retain Juan Cuadrado for a total €24m deal, claim Sky Sport Italia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Hard to believe we paid 30m euros for him. What a debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Just sell him. Cut our losses and be done with this clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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