Jase 43,479 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Tbh it wasn't my intention to comment on Courtois it was only due to another member quoting me & asking me a question.Imho its not an exaggeration - its fact, just read what I stated to the skipper. I very rarely read too much into what the twats in the media spout off, I trust my own judgement, I've been involved in football at different levels for long enough to feel confident enough in that, nonetheless it doesn't mean I'm correct. In a few months time when the dust settles & Cech pulls out consistent performances without the mistakes I will apologize & say I got it wrong, which is unlike many on here. It maybe enough that Jose has had a few words because someone that is as meticulous as him wouldn't let it slip his notice & believe it or not I hope I'm wrong.It's a fact that Cech has made mistakes this season but it's also an exaggeration to make it sound as if he has been doing it in every game. Out of those 4 mistakes you pointed out before, only 2 really can be blamed on him; the goal against Bayern and West Brom. The ones conceded against Villa and City are not exactly downright his fault just because he conceded at his near post. All too easy to blame him just because of that as there are factors that need to be looked in at on that. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Let me spell out for you, goalkeepers should not be beaten on their near post, Benteke's goal was not hit with any pace & should of been a comfortable save for Cech, Aguero's was slightly different as it was hit with pace but it was on his near side where somehow he lost the sight of the ball, the ball wasn't far from his body so again he should be saving that.Now the saves he makes during games is exactly what he his paid to do the very same as our strikers are paid to put the ball away & when their not doing the business they get all sorts of shit thrown at them, so when Cech is making several mistakes in a short period of time, why should he not get criticized too? Joe Hart has been making similar mistakes & perhaps more but he also made some great saves too but he is out on his arse at the mo & correctly so in my opinion.The problem is when a keeper starts being shaky the defence then lose confidence too & it starts a chain of problems. He is still a fantastic keeper & a legend at this club but at this moment in time he needs a spell on the bench - there is no question of that."should of been a comfortable save"?! You and I remember the Villa goal very differently! The way I remember it, it was a first time volley from inside the box that was hit with pace and with a couple of people blocking Petr's view. He also hit it with his back to goal so there was absolutely no way he could have expected that shot. Saying that any goal that goes in the near post is the keeper's fault regardless of how it went in is a generalization that is very illogical. Yes, Petr is paid to make those save, and so are other keepers at other clubs. But the thing is, very often, Petr makes an incredible save when any of those other keepers, who also get paid to make that save, would have let the shot in 9 times out of ten. He does that almost every single game and so it happens that those kind of saves come very often at a crucial time where conceding could change the outcome of the game. And once in a while, a very long while, Petr let's in a goal that most other keepers would have saved 9 times out of ten. The difference between how often he makes saves that others wouldn't have and how often he lets in goals that others would have saved is why vast majority of football fans would tell you that he's in the top 5 keepers in the world.I think you're grossly exaggerating the "mistakes" Petr have made. They are a very long way away from being an issue for the club, imo, let alone being worse than Turnbull. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,572 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 200 Clean Sheet For Petr Cech! silviupastean and DJames 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Magnificent last night. A performance worthy of the occasion. Happy 450 games, Pete! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Magnificent last night. A performance worthy of the occasion. Happy 450 games, Pete!Stop being positive, the site may crash. BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Thought he probably could've done better for their goal. Salah's second touch gets away from him a bit but Cech doesn't move. Nitpicking maybe but that's what you get when you're one of the best around.Still think he's on his way out at the end of the season in favour of Courtois, who also threw in a bit of a clanger last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 He was playing alone against Basel the first 25 mins yesterday! Did brilliantly to keep them out. Shame he didn't get the clean sheet in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 The save he made when he was on his arse, going the other way, was simply brilliant. Unbelievable strength to palm the ball over from that position the way that he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 is becoming a bit of a liability at times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 BleedsBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeChuck 22 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 He's been terrible this season. Almost every shot on goal is conceded by him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Really annoying performance from him today.Barely tested by Stoke today, and whenever he did get tested he looked clueless. It reminds of the time back in 2008 when him and Reina were competing for the comedy keeper award. LeChuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 The game completely swung on his blunder and it's not the first one this season so it's hardly a kneejerk reaction. Football is a team game so it's harsh to say he's costing us points, but in two matches now (at least) he's made mistakes at key points.The reason this will get so much attention is because he IS under pressure because we have a keeper who is at the very least as good as him waiting to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 He's already made more mistakes this season than i can remember in the last 2 seasons combined.Becoming harder to justify (potentially) selling Courtois, since Cech will only get worse with age. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Sometimes, it's just hard find to reason to excuse him of his brainfart moment like today. Only not too long ago, he allowed a weak shot to went past him against West Brom and now this. Had he stayed in his normal position and doubt we would have lost the game at all. The blunder totally swung the game in Stoke's favor. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I think its better to take the chance and let Courtois play with us Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Next season the right decision would be letting Courtois in to compete with Cech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Next season the right decision would be letting Courtois in to compete with Cech.Having two world class keeper isn't practical. Yes have a decent one to keep Cech and Courtois on their toe's like Schwarzer, but competition in goal is different to outfield. Mufassir08, The Skipper and Mouri_Matic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Cech can leave or be bench warmer from next season, his choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Next season the right decision would be letting Courtois in to compete with Cech.I think this is what will happen for one season and both will be at the club ,like Cech and Cudicini were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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