bushman 2,043 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Probably not tanned enough for some people. Perhaps, he ought to visit Tahiti, soon ?Somehow, Cech seems to me still one of the best goalies around. To say he is slowing down, itยดs just not true, I feel.Come next year, Jose is going to have one difficult job to decide whom to keep. Cech of Courtois ?I believe, Chelsea can get around 15-20m for Cech, easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,146 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 The fact we are talking about selling one of our best players is madness, he is still a world class keeper. xPetrCechx and BlueLion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Well, it might be mad to talk about it. However, Courtois is just waiting & he could be even better than Cech. English Freak and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 The fact we are talking about selling one of our best players is madness, he is still a world class keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Courtiois is the best young goalkeeper in the world, I have no doubts about that. The problem for him is, that Cech is also one of the best goalkeepers in the world. He's established Chelsea's number 1 option and probably the only player we expect to see week and week out in the starting line-up. Playing his 3rd season for Atletico, Courtois, and impressing every football fan who've seen him play, the question appears. Who should be Chelsea's number 1 in the next season? Cech's 2012-13 season was arguably his best in Chelsea shirt. He's also only 31 years old, which is great age for goalkeeper, because we know they reach their peak in early 30's. Some think injuries which he had throughout his career, may affect Cech's health, fitness and condition, but I don't think this is really the case here. Courtois, on the other hand, is getting better from season to season. In 2011 his save success rate was 65%, a year later 76% and in 2013 it stants at 80%, saving 8 out of 10 shots on target for Madrid so far. Last year he also kept 20 clean sheets, which is the highest number in the Europe's top 5 leagues. From 2011 to 2013 he kept 35 clean sheets, which is a lot more than Cech's 24. Thibaut also received less goals each season, from 41 to 29. He is definetly improving, but to keep this progress he needs to play football regulary. This is what Atletico can guarantee right now, there was some interest from the Barcelona too, and I believe, he would be first option for them, stealing Valdes' place from the starting eleven. Although Cech conceded 7 more goals than Courtois last season, he also saved a higher proportion of the shots he faced, 80%, being the best in the Premier League. He also had to save far more shots than Courtois, Cech had to save 122 shots and Courtois 86. There are no doubts Cech can still perform at the highest level. Just think about Supercup Final few weeks ago, when Cech saved 8 out of Bayern's 10 shots on target. Cech is also better passer of the ball than Courtois. Maybe it's because Atleticos' manager tells Courtois to kick the ball from the goal kick to use the arial ability of Atletico's striker, but nevertheless, Courtois will still have to improve his kicking before becoming Chelsea's number 1 option. He tends to punch ball less every season from 21 in 2011, to 14 in 2012 and he is yet to punch the ball this season. Over the same time Cech punched the ball 15 times in 2011, 28 times in 2012 and he already had his 2 punches this season. It would be unfair for Cech to sit on the bench in his current form and it would also be unfair for Courtois to warm the bench, when he should play week and week out and gain experience, which is vital for top goalkeeper. So, I think we should loan Courtois for few more seasons, until we see Cech is losing his form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Courtiois is the best young goalkeeper in the world, I have no doubts about that. The problem for him is, that Cech is also one of the best goalkeepers in the world. He's established Chelsea's number 1 option and probably the only player we expect to see week and week out in the starting line-up. Playing his 3rd season for Atletico, Courtois, and impressing every football fan who've seen him play, the question appears. Who should be Chelsea's number 1 in the next season? Cech's 2012-13 season was arguably his best in Chelsea shirt. He's also only 31 years old, which is great age for goalkeeper, because we know they reach their peak in early 30's. Some think injuries which he had throughout his career, may affect Cech's health, fitness and condition, but I don't think this is really the case here. Courtois, on the other hand, is getting better from season to season. In 2011 his save success rate was 65%, a year later 76% and in 2013 it stants at 80%, saving 8 out of 10 shots on target for Madrid so far. Last year he also kept 20 clean sheets, which is the highest number in the Europe's top 5 leagues. From 2011 to 2013 he kept 35 clean sheets, which is a lot more than Cech's 24. Thibaut also received less goals each season, from 41 to 29. He is definetly improving, but to keep this progress he needs to play football regulary. This is what Atletico can guarantee right now, there was some interest from the Barcelona too, and I believe, he would be first option for them, stealing Valdes' place from the starting eleven. Although Cech conceded 7 more goals than Courtois last season, he also saved a higher proportion of the shots he faced, 80%, being the best in the Premier League. He also had to save far more shots than Courtois, Cech had to save 122 shots and Courtois 86. There are no doubts Cech can still perform at the highest level. Just think about Supercup Final few weeks ago, when Cech saved 8 out of Bayern's 10 shots on target. Cech is also better passer of the ball than Courtois. Maybe it's because Atleticos' manager tells Courtois to kick the ball from the goal kick to use the arial ability of Atletico's striker, but nevertheless, Courtois will still have to improve his kicking before becoming Chelsea's number 1 option. He tends to punch ball less every season from 21 in 2011, to 14 in 2012 and he is yet to punch the ball this season. Over the same time Cech punched the ball 15 times in 2011, 28 times in 2012 and he already had his 2 punches this season. It would be unfair for Cech to sit on the bench in his current form and it would also be unfair for Courtois to warm the bench, when he should play week and week out and gain experience, which is vital for top goalkeeper. So, I think we should loan Courtois for few more seasons, until we see Cech is losing his form.I highly doubt that Courtois will agree to another loan spell.Why would Courtois wait for Cech to decline as a goalkeeper? He could be the starting goalkeeper at almost any top European side.If he's not a Chelsea player next season, Courtois will most likely be sold off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 To loan Courtois for a few more seasons ?I donยดt believe, thatยดs his aim any longer. He wants to play as No 1 for Chelsea & fight for it, as he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I highly doubt that Courtois will agree to another loan spell.Why would Courtois wait for Cech to decline as a goalkeeper? He could be the starting goalkeeper at almost any top European side.If he's not a Chelsea player next season, Courtois will most likely be sold off.As far as I know, Courtois has contract with Chelsea until 2016, so I don't think we will sell him with two years on his contract. To loan Courtois for a few more seasons ?I donยดt believe, thatยดs his aim any longer. He wants to play as No 1 for Chelsea & fight for it, as he said.He wants it maybe, but is it better for him? I'm not sure. Rotating two world-class goalkeepers would frustrate the fuck out of them both and wouldn't do any good to either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 As far as I know, Courtois has contract with Chelsea until 2016, so I don't think we will sell him with two years on his contract. He wants it maybe, but is it better for him? I'm not sure. Rotating two world-class goalkeepers would frustrate the fuck out of them both and wouldn't do any good to either of them.Two years on playerยดs contract equals to the best price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Statistics don't really say much, but they do give a somewhat blurred picture . I for one, still have my doubts over his ability to be our no.1 next season. BlueLion., Despiadado.Maleante and xPetrCechx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Keeper stats say more about the defense than the keeper himself. Athletico have by far the best defense in the La Liga while our defense has mostly been in shambles since 2010-11. Without even looking at the stats I could have told you that Courtois would have let in fewer goals and kept more clean sheets while Cech would certainly have saved more shots. Despiadado.Maleante and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Just like to say Cech could've been helping the team more. I'm not saying he's been bad. He has been making good saves, but he has also let some balls in that, normally, a keeper of his quality wouldn't. in retrospect, Everton scored from inside the goal box, and that's the GK area.Perhaps he's just had a slow start like, apparently, the rest of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Courtois is the best keeper in La Liga in my opinion (Casillas is severely overrated as is Valdes - sure both are/were great goalkeepers but recently not as good as Thibaut has been) and hes 21 or 22 years old. Cech is undoubtedly world class and better than Thibaut right now but who says that it won't' change within a year or two? Cech is either going to go next summer or the one after for sure. We'd be ridiculous to keep Cech as our first choice and let a young guy of Courtois' quality leave/rot on the bench instead... Cech is in his early 30s and Courtois is 21 or 22 or whatever, he has time to play at Chelsea for 10+ years similar to what Petr has done. Courtois is the perfect successor to Cech. I can't see Cech wanting to be a second choice GK either if he stays while Courtois is first choice. Not a chance. Someone of his quality needs to be playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Big Petr is still top class ,when the sh1t is hitting the fan ,we still have Cech ,the save from Bent could be a turning point for us. The_Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 299th appearance for Petr Cech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Cech is best goalie in PL nachikethas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 How are we even discussing selling one of our best players again?? xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Petr cech is about to make his 300th EPL appearance for us. But sadly, instead of celebrating with our legend, were discussing how he should leave the club. Barbara and xPetrCechx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 OUR LEGEND! Blue Armour, Beigl and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachikethas 1,154 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 He's not going to get sold kellzfresh, don't worry about that especially with Mourinho in charge. Surly he can play years with this form xPetrCechx and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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