Popular Post! King11Didier 916 Posted March 16, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 16, 2015 I really think that Luis can really freshen up our team. Just remember how our team looked when he played. I'm sure he can be that kind player who can decide a match. Not like a striker with a goal or a midfielder with an assist, but with a strong defence and good runs in attack. Maybe there aren't many people who think like me, but for me full backs are really important part of the team nowadays. Treating Luis like this is like having a Ferrari which you don't drive. zolayes, MrExcalibur100, DYC. and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Filipe Luis could be offered a quick return to Atlético Madrid with the Spanish club monitoring his situation at Chelsea.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11475606/Chelsea-transfer-news-Atletico-Madrid-hope-to-take-Filipe-Luis-back-if-Jose-Mourinho-decides-to-offload-defender.htmlI did think Simeone would want him back. Mourinho doesn't care for Luis and Atleti are missing him so it'd probably be for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11475606/Chelsea-transfer-news-Atletico-Madrid-hope-to-take-Filipe-Luis-back-if-Jose-Mourinho-decides-to-offload-defender.htmlI did think Simeone would want him back. Mourinho doesn't care for Luis and Atleti are missing him so it's probably for the best.best for him and atletico but not for us.. oh we can always buy Shaw The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! bababoom 4,478 Posted March 16, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 16, 2015 Azpi also protects JT, he always covers for him while Luis' loves to bomb forward to help the attack. Gary Neville alluded to it a few months ago, look at how narrow Azpi plays when defending. I generally rate Luis, he adds so much to our left hand side but i can understand why Jose is cautious.I know i may get some flak for this and he has been our best defender this season but i think as a team we'll look more better and cohesive once we buy a faster CB to partner Zouma, obviously it's easier said than done but it's just my opinion. We'll be far more proactive and able to press properly instead of sitting deep and worrying about players getting in behind Terry. WNDS, stroey, The Chels and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Why British journalists have to be so clueless and don't ask about tactics or style of play ? Why ANYBODY, literally ANYBODY didn't ask Jose yet if he thinks that our pressing game and transition needs improvement, why he doesn't play Filipe for example, all that things. In Spain they're sensation-seeking bastards too but they at least ask a genuine interesting questions about system of play and certain players fitting (or not) into that system.Found a journalist's (unsurprising) answer. They just say that he doesn't give serious answers and only talks about what he wants.https://soundcloud.com/the-game-podcast/manchester-city-and-chelsea-suffer-from-bad-planning(13 mins in talking about lack of rotation) Azpi also protects JT, he always covers for him while Luis' loves to bomb forward to help the attack. Gary Neville alluded to it a few months ago, look at how narrow Azpi plays when defending. I generally rate Luis, he adds so much to our left hand side but i can understand while Jose is cautious. I know i may get some flak for this and he has been our best defender this season but i think as a team we'll look more better and cohesive once we buy a faster CB to partner Zouma, obviously it's easier said than done but it's just my opinion. We'll be far more proactive and able to press properly instead of sitting deep and worrying about players getting in behind Terry.As a few posters have mentioned recently we do have too many players having to cover for others' deficiencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 Azpi also protects JT, he always covers for him while Luis' loves to bomb forward to help the attack. Gary Neville alluded to it a few months ago, look at how narrow Azpi plays when defending. I generally rate Luis, he adds so much to our left hand side but i can understand while Jose is cautious.I know i may get some flak for this and he has been our best defender this season but i think as a team we'll look more better and cohesive once we buy a faster CB to partner Zouma, obviously it's easier said than done but it's just my opinion. We'll be far more proactive and able to press properly instead of sitting deep and worrying about players getting in behind Terry. Can understand him being cautious in the big games or when we play away from home but against the lesser sides at home, we shouldn't always be playing Azpi at LB. We are practically giving the opposition one less threat to worry about. manpe, zolayes, killer1257 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Azpi also protects JT, he always covers for him while Luis' loves to bomb forward to help the attack. Gary Neville alluded to it a few months ago, look at how narrow Azpi plays when defending. I generally rate Luis, he adds so much to our left hand side but i can understand why Jose is cautious.I know i may get some flak for this and he has been our best defender this season but i think as a team we'll look more better and cohesive once we buy a faster CB to partner Zouma, obviously it's easier said than done but it's just my opinion. We'll be far more proactive and able to press properly instead of sitting deep and worrying about players getting in behind Terry.How about Ivanovic as cb? Is he still fast enough next season for that position?Azpi-Iva-Zouma-Luis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 How about Ivanovic as cb? Is he still fast enough next season for that position?Azpi-Iva-Zouma-LuisNO thanks ,, JT still ahead of Iva on knowledge and leadership .. AND POSITIONING Belgiannutt, stroey, Barbara and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,441 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 NO thanks ,, JT still ahead of Iva on knowledge and leadership .. AND POSITIONINGAnd don't forget, Ivanovic also has a tendency to keep backing off from attackers...ala Gary Cahill. Don't want to put Ivanovic in a central position anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Found a journalist's (unsurprising) answer. They just say that he doesn't give serious answers and only talks about what he wants.https://soundcloud.com/the-game-podcast/manchester-city-and-chelsea-suffer-from-bad-planning(13 mins in talking about lack of rotation)I don't agree with them. I don't know what they're talking about, I watched pretty much all Mourinho press conferences, I don't know how much, 80 ? And it's the same pattern. There are 3 stupid questions to begin from the same person, Mourinho is already upset with this shit, then someone asks another stupid, obvious, sensational-seeking question, trying to bait Mourinho into this and then MAYBE is a normal question or two, but very rarely that is the really interesting one anyway. I'd like if all those sensationalism journalists were quiet and those who has a real questions to ask get the first nod. The real journalists should come forward right at the beginning of the press conference not hiding until tabloids-type finish their job. But maybe those journalists with real questions also have a fun and they feel that they're doing their job anyway where they have a prepared main theme.In Spain, even when Mou was giving headlines, there still were proper, genuine questions about tactics and style of play. After all, I almost whole knowledge about Mourinho type of coaching and thinking have from his press conferences and interviews in Spain.But I see that those "intelligent" English ones already have made excuse why they don't ask proper questions. I don't buy it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Azpi also protects JT, he always covers for him while Luis' loves to bomb forward to help the attack. Gary Neville alluded to it a few months ago, look at how narrow Azpi plays when defending. I generally rate Luis, he adds so much to our left hand side but i can understand why Jose is cautious.I know i may get some flak for this and he has been our best defender this season but i think as a team we'll look more better and cohesive once we buy a faster CB to partner Zouma, obviously it's easier said than done but it's just my opinion. We'll be far more proactive and able to press properly instead of sitting deep and worrying about players getting in behind Terry. Does JT is really that slower than, let's say, 5 years ago when that was Ashley Cole who bombed forward ? I'm sure that Filipe played with JT in the squad at least a couple of times already, so Mourinho rather don't think that's suicidal, because he wouldn't pull that thing more than once.I simply think that Mourinho is faithful to his trusted leutanants, especially Ivanovic. I really don't think that's a fair if Azpilicueta was dropped, because he plays at the same high level, wtih absolutely ridicoulus intensity. The only thing is to drop Ivanovic, since Azpilicueta doesn't give a reason to do that, and Mourinho clearly doesn't consider this. He basically hit the nail of the head with the whole thing when he put the blame on Schurrle for City equaliser, when that was Ivanovic fault because he switched off.But you brought interesting thing to discuss. I'm sick of one thing from Jose in particular and that is when he wants to protect his side and nullify the opponent, he doesn't do that by system. Instead he does that by bringing extra protection from the certain player. Simeone, Ancelotti or Klopp or any other big manager, when they want to secure side and constarin opponent, they does that by style of play, by move of his players in that area to help, through constant shifting of midfielders. But Mourinho almost exclusively does that by bringing extra player on to take care of that matter. He did that against Filipe Luis for example by bringing Azpilicueta to midfield. Are we sure it couldn't have been done by simply instruct his side to move there, instruct his midfielders to overload that area ? Instead we are devoid of one extra player from attack. The same happened in the last game against Spurs, when Zouma was for a single reason, to only nullify Eriksen. That's why we can talk that Mourinho is super-ultra careful with his approach.I was more certain that not that Filipe will get the nod in this game against Southampton, but only on the Sunday I realised that Clyne is fully fit, and guess why Azpilicueta played ? Because he had to take care of Clyne and Filipe was "too risky" for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Azpi also protects JT, he always covers for him while Luis' loves to bomb forward to help the attack. Gary Neville alluded to it a few months ago, look at how narrow Azpi plays when defending. I generally rate Luis, he adds so much to our left hand side but i can understand why Jose is cautious.I know i may get some flak for this and he has been our best defender this season but i think as a team we'll look more better and cohesive once we buy a faster CB to partner Zouma, obviously it's easier said than done but it's just my opinion. We'll be far more proactive and able to press properly instead of sitting deep and worrying about players getting in behind Terry. Yeah, but we have Azpi who covers for JT, Willian who covers for Ivanovic, Ramires/Oscar who covers for Cesc, Matic who covers for everyone - as a result we have noone to attack with, Hazard has to deal with two players all the time, only Costa is doing pressing, and our most attacking player other than Hazard and Costa is Ivanovic. zolayes, Atholy and MrExcalibur100 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Is he ever going to be our starting LB on a consistent basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 This guy is ahead of Marcelo in nt, yet Mou cant find proper time for him.I dont care where he plays, I think he is very valuable player because he can play midfield or maybe even wing (not much different from Willian anyway.The only problem is that Mou cant find how to play him. He is hardworking, doesnt complain and looks very much like Mou type of player. At beggining i was kinda dissapointed with him and thought why we spent 25m on him, but now Im dissapointed with Mou not playing him. Its just sad. MrExcalibur100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 He's the only Brazilian we have good enough for the XI yet he's the one with the fewest minutes. Ainsley Harriott, King11Didier and The Chels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 He's the only Brazilian we have good enough for the XI yet he's the one with the fewest minutes. Irony The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 So there are already inevitable stories circling around him leaving. Is Del Horno still playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 If he's going to get this many minutes, he may as well leave, and we better bring back Cole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Having watched yesterday's Atletico game, I was very impressed with their pressing when they were trying to grab the game by its throat. Leverkusen couldn't do anything when Atletico ran at them. And Luis, having played integral part in that system for years, would surely be a better option with this mentality programmed into him than, say, a right-footed defender camping behind just to cover for Terry when the opposition reach the proximity of our area? Have Matic cover that area more aggressively when needed, imagine Matic and Luis both applying pressure on attackers on that side of the pitch. Then you can have Ramires partnering Matic to provide further cover in the exposed areas of our third while also providing useful pacey and energetic impetus in attack. We can't really afford doing that when we have Fabregas partnering in midfield and when we also play Azpilicueta on the left, we lose one important attacking option in our game because he needs to stay behind to cover.Playing Luis and Ramires could possibly make our game more dynamic in both ends of the field. Fabregas' and Hazard's game is also limited when their only overlapping passing options are Ivanovic and a restricted Azpilicueta (safe side-way/backward passes, no regular penetration). Luis needs a fair chance. zolayes, stroey and Laugh1ngMan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Having watched yesterday's Atletico game, I was very impressed with their pressing when they were trying to grab the game by its throat. Leverkusen couldn't do anything when Atletico ran at them. And Luis, having played integral part in that system for years, would surely be a better option with this mentality programmed into him than, say, a right-footed defender camping behind just to cover for Terry when the opposition reach the proximity of our area? Have Matic cover that area more aggressively when needed, imagine Matic and Luis both applying pressure on attackers on that side of the pitch. Then you can have Ramires partnering Matic to provide further cover in the exposed areas of our third while also providing useful pacey and energetic impetus in attack. We can't really afford doing that when we have Fabregas partnering in midfield and when we also play Azpilicueta on the left, we lose one important attacking option in our game because he needs to stay behind to cover.Playing Luis and Ramires could possibly make our game more dynamic in both ends of the field. Fabregas' and Hazard's game is also limited when their only overlapping passing options are Ivanovic and a restricted Azpilicueta (safe side-way/backward passes, no regular penetration). Luis needs a fair chance.While in theory, you're corect, the problem with it is Ramirez can't pass a ball to save his life. This severely limits him and us. In 90% of the games we play, in games we dominate possession, Ramires is more of a hindrance than a help. Add to the fact Ramires' defensive contribution is average at best (some will disagree, but that's how I see it)It's no surprise we went on our unbeaten spell without Ramires being a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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