Diego Costa

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

52 minutes ago, Leif said:

With the money we'd get for him we could buy Dybala, who if you haven't seen enough off is essentially Aguero on steroids (I say that because Aguero was not at this level at that age, but their strengths & weaknesses are generally the same.) He's also a bit like prime-Torres. He's a goal getter, and while he isn't strong, it's soon forgotten when you see how he can glide past players as if he's on ice. In fact I think he's the only player who could replace Messi eventually to a decent standard. 

As I harp on about, Lewandowski is also at least equal to Costa, it just depends on the system whether or not he surpasses him. 

I understand if they're not considered realistic buys, but I think with 80m+, both of those guys are leaving. 

On paper, based on stats, and based on the opinions of people we should take seriously, those are really the only 2 players on the same level of Costa. However, there's always the clear fact which us top clubs ignore, which is when the system is right, you can potentially find 5 players in Ligue 1, or the Portugal league, all of whom would cost peanuts and yet excel greatly given a better manager & teammates. In that vein, I believe Mitroglou would be very solid here for example. Though i'd like him as a back up, since the easiest way to win titles is by having experienced bench players, not bench players who still need to be nurtured (as is our case).

One thing is clear; there has never been a poorer pool of strikers in Europe. Football is in shambles compared to what it used to be, the worst it's ever been in so many ways, and that makes everything complicated regarding our expectations.

(Also, I'd sign Muller from Bayern and make him a full time striker. He's essentially prime Rooney minus the freekicks, playing on the wing for his career, which is an insult to his qualities. With Conte, he'd become the best poacher there is, but with all the hardworking qualities of a different sort of player. He's having the worst season of his career, so I imagine him being allowed to leave for 50m in this current climate, maybe even 40m.)

Dybala and Lewandowski? Good luck signing them mate.

[Leif 6,006]

10 minutes ago, NiclasCFC said:

Dybala and Lewandowski? Good luck signing them mate.

Luck? Are you implying Juventus are in a position to turn down 80m even after Pogba's sale? They've barely broken even after that sale considering the purchase of Higuain; they will sell Dybala for whatever we sell Costa for. They've not made a good profit for a looooong time all deals considered. They wouldn't sell their most marketable star and not Dybala. The former was even vastly more important to them on the field. They'd find a Dybala replacement as quick as we can snap our fingers, and they'd do it with 60m leftover. They would like that.

Lewandowski? Bayern's best striker in a long time, but ageing. They'd have to at least consider our offer to not be seen as braindead, which they clearly aren't considering their consistent success both on the field and with transfer dealings. 

Both are very much attainable. You underestimate the power of London (Turin's the 3rd biggest shithole in Italy), the power of a fresh and inspiring Conte compared to an almost-forgotten-about-now Ancelotti & an uninspiring, borderline crap Allegri. You underestimate how much additional funding we could add to a transfer fee proposal, and you underestimate too the simple desire to play in the Premier League, over Italy, at least. 

[Spike 12,049]

Bayern and Juve would just find the next diamond in the rough. Then they'd fleece another fucking idiotic English team and the cycle would  continue.

[Unionjack 7,531]

3 hours ago, Chelsea4 said:

This would be a big mistake he is almost 30 years old and his overral play is fucking shit why give him a contract extension when we can sell him for 85m and buy a better player?

Of course! I mean like theres 20+ goals a year strikers everywhere begging to play for us.

IF Diego wanted to jump ship then yeah pay what we need to but Id rather get us a backup Conte trusts for more than 2 miute - no wait he got 3 against Burnley it musta made his year. And even tho Pedros doing Ok Id still prefer us to get an upgrade. Just imagine one of
Sanchez,Aguero,Aubameyang,Dybala,Lacazette,Muller,Isco up with Eden and Costa given the same freedom Eden has so we end up with 3 roaming strikers.

Then we need a couple of players able to create summet with the ball once theyve got it at their feet and we make sure we start feeding those top 3 more.

Well it sounds good in my head

[Chelsea4 1,521]

1 hour ago, Unionjack said:

Of course! I mean like theres 20+ goals a year strikers everywhere begging to play for us.

IF Diego wanted to jump ship then yeah pay what we need to but Id rather get us a backup Conte trusts for more than 2 miute - no wait he got 3 against Burnley it musta made his year. And even tho Pedros doing Ok Id still prefer us to get an upgrade. Just imagine one of
Sanchez,Aguero,Aubameyang,Dybala,Lacazette,Muller,Isco up with Eden and Costa given the same freedom Eden has so we end up with 3 roaming strikers.

Then we need a couple of players able to create summet with the ball once theyve got it at their feet and we make sure we start feeding those top 3 more.

Well it sounds good in my head

Diego's link up is awful,he can't hold up the ball,he can't pass,he can't dribble his OVERRAL PLAY IS FUCKING SHIT! He ruins every attack.

[Polo7 3,496]

30 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said:

Diego's link up is awful,he can't hold up the ball,he can't pass,he can't dribble his OVERRAL PLAY IS FUCKING SHIT! He ruins every attack.

Ive seen it all now. He ruins every attack yet he alone won us many points when our other players didnt turn up. West Brom anyone? Middlesborough anyone? How about West ham? The pass to Willian to make it 2-1 against City? The point against Swansea? And many more. You are a disgrace to Chelsea fans.

[Bernard N Y Burgesson 139]

i think now people are opening their eyes. to see the truth. even if this is costa's best season, i have not been impressed like how many chelsea fans have been about costa. yea he is a good striker like every other striker(not suarez or Aubameyang prolific) but my problem is his one goal a game project that he does. it so annoying and i also get angry at conte because of that. conte is supposed to remove costa immediately after he scores not hazard or pedro or willian. bring in someone who has something to prove and fight for but no he will keep him on for 90 or 89 or 88mins then bats has to play 3mins or so. if he really has been giving a contract extension then am really sad for bats or tammy abrahams who looks more prolific gor me or even lukaku's hopes of a return. 

this should have been his last season so there will be way for fresh blood

[Bernard N Y Burgesson 139]

21 minutes ago, Polo7 said:

Ive seen it all now. He ruins every attack yet he alone won us many points when our other players didnt turn up. West Brom anyone? Middlesborough anyone? How about West ham? The pass to Willian to make it 2-1 against City? The point against Swansea? And many more. You are a disgrace to Chelsea fans.

yo hold up do you know how sanchez has suffered for arsenal.maybe u dont so dont talk like he is the only player saving his team in the world. if not fo sanchez arsenal would be out of top six by now.

and i will choose sanchez over costa any day. for many reasons

1. sanchez will convert 4/5 chance he get compared to costa

2. will covert 4/5 penalties compared to costa

3.might get angry for being subbed when winnig 4:0 (such fighting spirit)

4. will continue to chase every ball even when he has score 2 or 3 goals already (like a striking kante)

so i say sell him then go for sanchez all you have to tell sanchez is we will give him a major trophy within two years and he will pack his bags and move to the brigde.

[Leif 6,006]

Let a guy use emphasis; Diego DOES ruin many attacking chances, more than he finishes. This is what people, myself especially mean, when we say he's the worst target man we've ever seen for someone of his build. He doesn't retain possession 90% of the time, he loses it, he does, it can't be debated. He's only useful when he's in the box. Any player on the planet can pass to Willian for a goal like has been highlighted above; doing it once or twice is not something to talk about. He is not consistent in any area besides being useless for at least half the game, and then scoring every 2nd or 3rd game. That's all he is. He has no pace, no dribbling ability, no football intelligence compared to his peers worth the same amount of money, poor work rate, etc. But he's aggressive and a 'lad' so he gets a pass. 

Truly great strikers know how to hold onto the ball for more than 2.5 seconds before losing it. This is something Diego cannot do unless he's already broken the defensive line and is in on goal.

When we don't have the ball, we're playing with 10 men while he's on the pitch; no hassling of the opposition players who could potentially end up with the ball, like many great strikers do, like Drogba did the best. Just a choppy tackle from behind sometimes if a player is already close to him, pray the ball ends up at Hazard's feet, start running towards the box, then either go in a huff once the ball goes to a player who isn't him / get the ball, lose it within 2 seconds / or sometimes, more rarely, actually take a shot on target.

As stated in other days, he gets credit for what he HAS done, we can't deny the goals, but to not expect better is lunacy. 

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

And suddenly Diego has a poor work rate. FFS. Man, who constantly presses opposition, has a poor work rate. I've seen it all now.

[Leif 6,006]

The only pressing he does is when a player is 2 feet away from him & they're near the opposition box. Other than that he's a tree stump waiting for the ball. 

[Spike 12,049]

After many years of searching, Chelsea has a striker that can score goals...only that isn't enough for the spoilt fans. Coming this summer, another transfer saga.

[Bernard N Y Burgesson 139]

16 minutes ago, Spike said:

After many years of searching, Chelsea has a striker that can score goals...only that isn't enough for the spoilt fans. Coming this summer, another transfer saga.

yes it isnt enough and i admit am a spoilt fan.(what will you call barca or real fans) but i dont need spoilt players. what i mean is this look at suarez when he was at liverpool such a great striker but at barca he has become such a spoilt  striker because he is being fed left and right buy the best players in the world with easy tap ins and rebounds from neymar and messi changes more like left overs. i have know chelsea for as long as i can remember, you have to feed yourself as a striker to succeed(even when fed he still seems to throw away 60-70% of the changes after he has scored one). now you can see the similarity between suarez and costa(thats why he is on their list for a suarez replacement) 

Am not saying that both of them dont do what i expect(like against west brom) but it seems so happen once in a blue moon. Yes i will remeber him since he has been the only strike to succeed Drogba. (torres and remy all failing ) but at this point i wish we had a player like Giroud who needs 10-15mins to score goals and not just and goal world class ones. not saying we should go for him thou

[Spike 12,049]

27 minutes ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said:

yes it isnt enough and i admit am a spoilt fan.(what will you call barca or real fans) but i dont need spoilt players. what i mean is this look at suarez when he was at liverpool such a great striker but at barca he has become such a spoilt  striker because he is being fed left and right buy the best players in the world with easy tap ins and rebounds from neymar and messi changes more like left overs. i have know chelsea for as long as i can remember, you have to feed yourself as a striker to succeed(even when fed he still seems to throw away 60-70% of the changes after he has scored one). now you can see the similarity between suarez and costa(thats why he is on their list for a suarez replacement) 

Am not saying that both of them dont do what i expect(like against west brom) but it seems so happen once in a blue moon. Yes i will remeber him since he has been the only strike to succeed Drogba. (torres and remy all failing ) but at this point i wish we had a player like Giroud who needs 10-15mins to score goals and not just and goal world class ones. not saying we should go for him thou

'Feed yourself as a striker', what does that mean? Pass the ball to oneself? Giroud is one of the most wasteful forwards in England and Arsenal would laughing all the way to the bank if Chelsea bought him.

Let's look at the actual importance of Giroud v Costa's goals.

• Two goals in a 4-1 victory over Sunderland
• Tying goal in a 1-1 draw against Manchester United
• Winner in a 1-0 victory over West Brom
• One goal in a 2-0 victory over Crystal Palce
• One goal in 3-3 draw against Bournemouth
• One goal in 4-0 victory over Swansea
• One goal in a 3-1 loss against Chelsea

Purely on the basis of goals, he has scored one winner and only one tying goal. It should be noted that he also had MOTM against Bournemouth. All those teams beside Manchester United and West Brom are in the bottom half of the table

Costa

• Winner in a 2-1 victory over West Ham
• Winner in a 2-1 victory over Watford
• Two goals in a 2-2 draw against Swansea
• One goal in a 2-1 loss against Liverpool
• One goal in a 2-0 win over Hull
• One goal in a 3-0 win over Leicester
• One goal in a 2-0 win over Southampton
• One goal in a 5-0 win over Everton
• Winner 1-0 over Middelsborough
• One goal in 3-1 win over Manchester City
• Winner in a 1-0 win over Crystal Palace
• One goal in a 4-2 win over Stoke
• One goal in a 2-0 win over Hull

Four winners, a single tying goal and four MOTM performances. Costa has played three time more football than Giroud but has made a far larger impact on his team. When Costa plays well, Chelsea tend to win.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

1 hour ago, Spike said:

After many years of searching, Chelsea has a striker that can score goals...only that isn't enough for the spoilt fans. Coming this summer, another transfer saga.

This. People play too much Fifa these days.

2 hours ago, Leif said:

 

Yes, because we can find a better striker right? Talking about Dybala who is at 5 goals or so this season. Talk about Griezmann who has just about same chances to flop in PL like Pogba. Or Aubameyang who did shit outside of bundesliga. Or Belotti who didnt even complete one top season. Or Lacazette who did shit outside PL.

Man you do know Chelsea in last 18 years, repeating 18 years had only Hasselbaink, Drogba (maybe could throw Gudjohnsen to the mix) and now Costa (who you say is average) who found their feet in our club? And about 10 supposed world class strikers who absolutely failed here?

Who knows how would those strikers do here and we would pay shitload of money to get them, not to mention its not exactly easy to get Dybala or Griezmann. Why change things when Costa is in top scoring form?

Yet you find a striker who in 3 years, brought us two titles (hopefuly 8 points is enough), a striker who scored like 40 goals in 70 games average? Because he doesnt dribble like Eden and because he doesnt have work rate of Kante? Well then...

Talking about out and out quality, there are only Suarez, Lewandowski and obviously Messi/Ronaldo to have equal or better striking ability than Costa. We cant get those players can we? And even if we could someone like you would begin to complain they are average strikers because they dont show up in pyjama at party.

[quickpassnmove 924]

He's what we have for now, but he's not really ideal. I don't care if he stays or goes, but he's done well this season before January-Feb., which was probably more than I was expecting after his 1st two seasons in London. He's up one level this season, but it doesn't make him a great striker for us.

Who the fuck was looking for a striker "for years?" Surely we're not talking about going back to the month CFC stupidly paid 50 mil for a hamstrung F. Torres.

[Spike 12,049]

36 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

This. People play too much Fifa these days.

Yes, because we can find a better striker right? Talking about Dybala who is at 5 goals or so this season. Talk about Griezmann who has just about same chances to flop in PL like Pogba. Or Aubameyang who did shit outside of bundesliga. Or Belotti who didnt even complete one top season. Or Lacazette who did shit outside PL.

Man you do know Chelsea in last 18 years, repeating 18 years had only Hasselbaink, Drogba (maybe could throw Gudjohnsen to the mix) and now Costa (who you say is average) who found their feet in our club? And about 10 supposed world class strikers who absolutely failed here?

Who knows how would those strikers do here and we would pay shitload of money to get them, not to mention its not exactly easy to get Dybala or Griezmann. Why change things when Costa is in top scoring form?

Yet you find a striker who in 3 years, brought us two titles (hopefuly 8 points is enough), a striker who scored like 40 goals in 70 games average? Because he doesnt dribble like Eden and because he doesnt have work rate of Kante? Well then...

Talking about out and out quality, there are only Suarez, Lewandowski and obviously Messi/Ronaldo to have equal or better striking ability than Costa. We cant get those players can we? And even if we could someone like you would begin to complain they are average strikers because they dont show up in pyjama at party.

Gudjohnson is contentious as he could be considered an 'attacking midfielder'

Let's list all the failures in recent memory:

• Sutton
• Kezman
• Muttu
• Torres
• Remy
• Batshuayi
• Pizarro
• Shevchenko
• Pato
• Falcao

Even Crespo was mediocre. I couldn't remember half of these players without Google, also because I've been drinking.

 

[LAM09 6,749]

Gudjohnson is contentious as he could be considered an 'attacking midfielder'
Let's list all the failures in recent memory:

• Sutton
• Kezman
• Muttu
• Torres
• Remy
• Batshuayi
• Pizarro
• Shevchenko
• Pato
• Falcao

Even Crespo was mediocre. I couldn't remember half of these players without Google, also because I've been drinking.
 

Bats is a failure after 93 mins of Prem action? Lol!