Essien19 1,415 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Diego Costa has earned it.At least he isn't a yes-man, there are disagreements in the office, now he will sit on the bench for some time,but i won't write him off just yet. Some disagreements have to be allowed, we're talking about adults and not children, lol.There's already way too much drama in it, the tabloids are absolutely loving it sticking it you Chelsea, Christmas has come early.In my point of view, Costa will come good again and more importantly he is one of us, can't hate him for showing passion,but as always around here some guys are looking for a fight and in the end for some bannings, sad, but that's the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Diego Costa has earned it.At least he isn't a yes-man, there are disagreements in the office, now he will sit on the bench for some time,but i won't write him off just yet. Some disagreements have to be allowed, we're talking about adults and not children, lol.There's already way too much drama in it, the tabloids are absolutely loving it sticking it you Chelsea, Christmas has come early.In my point of view, Costa will come good again and more importantly he is one of us, can't hate him for showing passion,but as always around here some guys are looking for a fight and in the end for some bannings, sad, but that's the way it is.I wouldn't equate what he did with "one of us." If he was one of us, he wouldn't have a bad attitude for being benched. Plenty of starters have been benched this season and we haven't seen a poor attitude. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I wouldn't equate what he did with "one of us." If he was one of us, he wouldn't have a bad attitude for being benched. Plenty of starters have been benched this season and we haven't seen a poor attitude.Costa was out of line, but look at the cirumstances (warming up, then all for nothing) furthermore in the heat of the moment he behaved badly and because he cares so much in my point of view. He will get a fine and after that another Chance, for me it would not be the right choice to throw him under the bus. You can't have it both ways.Costa has character and personality, it's difficult to handle but i personally prefer it much more than a yes man. Hazard behaved differently, good on him, but that's how it is. I like our own Keane even during the bad times, but criticism is okay. Selling him not, but if you feel differently, not a problem. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Costa was out of line, but look at the cirumstances (warming up, then all for nothing) furthermore in the heat of the moment he behaved badly and because he cares so much in my point of view.He will get a fine and after that another Chance, for me it would not be the right choice to throw him under the bus.You can't have it both ways.Costa has character and personality, it's difficult to handle but i personally prefer it much more than a yes man.Hazard behaved differently, good on him, but that's how it is.I like our own Keane even during the bad times, but criticism is okay.Selling him not, but if you feel differently, not a problem.Cheershave you thought about players like Luis Remy internationals on the bench for a season young players like Ake (2 years on the bench ) RLC 18 months and counting .. Lukaku and KDB were dumped for NOT being Yes men The Rising Sun and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Costa was out of line, but look at the cirumstances (warming up, then all for nothing) furthermore in the heat of the moment he behaved badly and because he cares so much in my point of view.He will get a fine and after that another Chance, for me it would not be the right choice to throw him under the bus.You can't have it both ways.Costa has character and personality, it's difficult to handle but i personally prefer it much more than a yes man.Hazard behaved differently, good on him, but that's how it is.I like our own Keane even during the bad times, but criticism is okay.Selling him not, but if you feel differently, not a problem.CheersWhen your a sub you should be as focused in warming up as you are when you start a game. At any given moment anything can happen in both scenarios. A yes man or not it becomes null and void you have to be a team player, when the chips are down, your finest moment or your worst, sulking and being petulant helps nobody apart from massaging your own stupid ego. If he doesn't want to be sold, show it, if you want to crack on, show it, stop fucking throwing the toys out of the pram and crack on. borriske, zolayes and didierforever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Costa was out of line, but look at the cirumstances (warming up, then all for nothing) furthermore in the heat of the moment he behaved badly and because he cares so much in my point of view.He will get a fine and after that another Chance, for me it would not be the right choice to throw him under the bus.You can't have it both ways.Costa has character and personality, it's difficult to handle but i personally prefer it much more than a yes man.Hazard behaved differently, good on him, but that's how it is.I like our own Keane even during the bad times, but criticism is okay.Selling him not, but if you feel differently, not a problem.CheersHis antics annoy me, because you can be a physical nuisance without actively searching it out the way he has. BUT, he always showed that he was about the team before anything and would do anything for this team.However, I don't see what he did today as showing that it's for the team. There certainly has to be some kind of self-confidence to believe that you playing makes the team better, but there also has to be some self-awareness to realize you had an argument with your boss. Your boss is right, even when he's wrong. You have to expect some punishment for that. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y10edn 185 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 He was lazing (warming up) in front of where I sat, it was a joke. He was dressed up like someone going to space and if he was required to come on quickly would have taking him a while to get ready, his attitude stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 He was lazing (warming up) in front of where I sat, it was a joke. He was dressed up like someone going to space and if he was required to come on quickly would have taking him a while to get ready, his attitude stinks.It's that damn London weather that he doesn't like. Hope he had a good Spanish dinner since the food sucks as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_jin 8 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Costa was out of line, but look at the cirumstances (warming up, then all for nothing)Poor little guy, warming up all for nothing. Very excrutiating circumstances.Mikel would have killed himself long ago The Rising Sun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 It's funny how he was saying he would compete for his place with torres when came to the club and now expresses his frustration at being dropped for the first time ever. Guess he was just taking the piss out of Torres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 It's that damn London weather that he doesn't like. Hope he had a good Spanish dinner since the food sucks as well Sorry but the one thing London does offer is wonderful food from all over the world . Even 50 years ago in Soho you could find food from 20 or morecountries ,, There were other tasty dishes on offer there .. Spicy but quite expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 have you thought about players like Luis Remy internationals on the bench for a season young players like Ake (2 years on the bench ) RLC 18 months and counting .. Lukaku and KDB were dumped for NOT being Yes menSorry mate, but i disagree with your examples.Remy has and will always be a sub at this club, he is too limited in his play.I think he knew it since the beginning. Has he ever truly performed as a starter?Diego Costa did, therefore he is allowed to make other claims (imo).Today, he behaved wrongly and will get a fine, but for me that's it.There is a difference between Remy and Diego Costa!At that time Costa has made a name for himself in Europe, whether he is top class or not is irrelevant,everyone has already seen his abilities back than.What really happened with Lukaku and De Bruyne one can never tell, with all due respectit's all pure speculation.For me De Bruyne (at least at that time) wanted to play and couldn't wait a few games, too greedy,maybe now he is a changed man.Lukaku was afraid of the competition, he had around ~19 goals in the league and wanted to play more.Yes, they should be at the club, who's responsible?Mourinho has to take some blame, but imo he's not alone, the players too and the board, a loan would have been possible, but they wanted to cash out.Maybe you disagree with me, but these aren't facts, everyone has his opinion, no problem.When your a sub you should be as focused in warming up as you are when you start a game. At any given moment anything can happen in both scenarios. A yes man or not it becomes null and void you have to be a team player, when the chips are down, your finest moment or your worst, sulking and being petulant helps nobody apart from massaging your own stupid ego. If he doesn't want to be sold, show it, if you want to crack on, show it, stop fucking throwing the toys out of the pram and crack on.His behaviour is not welcomed at the club.But taking into account the heat and frustration of the moment, i won't be too harsh on him.I believe in second chances and rehabilitation, fine him and get on with life.That's what i would do, knowing the drama queen Mourinho and Abramovich who attaches importance to the public image of the club, you never know what's going to happen...His antics annoy me, because you can be a physical nuisance without actively searching it out the way he has. BUT, he always showed that he was about the team before anything and would do anything for this team.However, I don't see what he did today as showing that it's for the team. There certainly has to be some kind of self-confidence to believe that you playing makes the team better, but there also has to be some self-awareness to realize you had an argument with your boss. Your boss is right, even when he's wrong. You have to expect some punishment for that. He will get punishment, your right Sir.Poor little guy, warming up all for nothing. Very excrutiating circumstances.Mikel would have killed himself long agoAs i said before Costa is on a different level, that's the thing with the so-called stars, sometimes they are difficult to handle.He will get in line, needs tough love, Mourinho is up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 He's a shame for a club like Chelsea and he should be sold as soon as possible. There are plenty of strikers out there who could deliver at least as much as he does, without embarrassing the club. zolayes and _jin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_jin 8 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 As i said before Costa is on a different level, that's the thing with the so-called stars, sometimes they are difficult to handle.He will get in line, needs tough love, Mourinho is up for it.that's where I don't agree with you. Costa isn't on a different level for me. If he was one of those wunderkids who were groomed since their childhood to be a WC star (kids like hazard, pogba, rooney, martial), that could make some sense that he feels entitled (not that I'd accept it from them either), but the guy is a late bloomer who has been a star for less than 2 years. If anything he should be thankful to be where he's at.One and half good seasons (he sucked in 2015) at 26 doesn't make you a star. zolayes and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 He's a shame for a club like Chelsea and he should be sold as soon as possible. There are plenty of strikers out there who could deliver at least as much as he does, without embarrassing the club. We cant get Bamford or Solanke back . So next game I would start with Remy or Abraham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 that's where I don't agree with you. Costa isn't on a different level for me. If he was one of those wunderkids who were groomed since their childhood to be a WC star (kids like hazard, pogba, rooney, martial), that could make some sense that he feels entitled (not that I'd accept it from them either), but the guy is a late bloomer who has been a star for less than 2 years. If anything he should be thankful to be where he's at.One and half good seasons (he sucked in 2015) at 26 doesn't make you a star.You're right Diego Costa has been a late developer, he really had to work for it, still there are a lot of bad touches in his game.He definitely knows the streets, maybe with the combination of all the work he had to put in, he has become that aggressive.That shouldn't be an excuse, sometimes he's over the line, but i can only speak for myself, in general i like his style of play.Costa has proven himself in Spain and in England, he was one of the leaders for two Championships and one UCL final.In my point of view, that's why he is on a different level than Remy, who was never the top dog in his position at a top club.Now we can debate what's required for being a star player.You made fair points, Costa hasn't been one of the top striker for years, the timeline is manageable.Our opinions differ, not a problem for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Do you know what striker type is worst for Chelsea? Classic give-me-great-ball-do-everything-for-me-and-I'll-always-tap-it-in number 9. Past his prime Shevchenko, Torres etc.Chelsea doesn't have attacking play needed for that kind of a striker.I firstly thought that Costa was different, that he can do things by himself... But he just can't. zolayes and Reddish-Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I've had it with him. He is a pathetic little crybaby who hurts more than he helps. I want him gone. quickpassnmove and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Mourinho biggest mistake this season was giving Costa too much credit. I mean, he was FAT in the start of the season. How can a professional start a season like that is beyond me.I hope the Cavani rumors are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_jin 8 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 You're right Diego Costa has been a late developer, he really had to work for it, still there are a lot of bad touches in his game.He definitely knows the streets, maybe with the combination of all the work he had to put in, he has become that aggressive.That shouldn't be an excuse, sometimes he's over the line, but i can only speak for myself, in general i like his style of play.Costa has proven himself in Spain and in England, he was one of the leaders for two Championships and one UCL final.In my point of view, that's why he is on a different level than Remy, who was never the top dog in his position at a top club.Now we can debate what's required for being a star player.You made fair points, Costa hasn't been one of the top striker for years, the timeline is manageable.Our opinions differ, not a problem for me. No problem for me either, I respect your opinion Personally I don't like his style of play (even tho it's effective when he's on).But I'll admit I'm biased against him, I hate the guy he's an absolutely horrendous human being.That video where he kicks that little kid is one of most disgraceful things I've ever seen. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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