BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 23 minutes ago, Jason said: He's making Torres look decent all of a sudden. I hope guys with comments like you take this as a bit of a joke. Or you are being that type of person who when someone does well, you lick their ass and when they do bad, you talk all possible shit about him. If Costa isnt happy here, sure sell him. But saying he should be sold because he is crap is arguably one of most idiotic things you can read here. Much like everyone was liking Mou ass when he was here (except towards the end when we had crap results), when chelsea played bunker for ages and people loved it, now suddenly he is at united and the SAME people talk shit about him for same things they praised him when he was a blue. Ridiculous thinking. The bottom line, people on this forum, sorry including some mods love the players and managers when we win things. The moment we dont or when they play bad, you throw absolutely everything at them. Where is respect? Where is sense of adulthood where nothing is as black and white as people make it seem here? Hazard played bad, but he was "marked'. Costa played bad because he is shit? Wait, he is marked with two players every game. Sure he fucks up some actions, but makes up with freekicks etc. He is in shit form, but if teams sold players based on two shit months, lol that would be funny. SAME was said about Eden last year. Yet people never learn. I would expect kids to talk shit in this thread, but not adults. Because everyone who watches football for longer time and in this case is true chelsea fan, will not want Diego out after two shit months. Period. Never mind talk all kind of crap after all the games Diego won us. You guys are sometimes unbelievable. I would love to see comments if Diego stays and goes back to his best next season. Im sure same people who today forget what Diego did for us, will forget they talked shit about him. I would copypaste the damn thread and show it everytime that same person would start licking their ass after all the insults this season. Article by bluelion who definately wasnt joking show everything about the respect we have for the players. Unless he knows personaly that Diego wanted to china, and he is playing intentionaly crap(then all this would be different) but i think he doesnt. Media throws some shit on the wall, sheeps buy it. Unfortunely Costa is playing bad and fans take all the blame on him. Mind you that except for Eden there was no one who did well consistently in past months. Kante had very bad games, Luiz had them, Cahill had them, Pedro had them, never mind Matic. Tibo and Azpi were good enough tho. Critic is all welcome, but sell him because he is crap, compare him to torres and other nonsense shows the quality of fans. Remember that true strenght shows when you are down, not when you are on top. Same goes for football fans. Sorry for long post, but shit like after whole team did fuck all today boiled my blood. Spike and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, marflow said: We have beaten Leicester and Bournemouth 3-0 with Hazard-Pedro-Willian and played good attacking football. There is no excuse to continue to play Costa in this form atm. I still don't think a strikerless formation is the best way to go. It has its problems and can be easily negated when we play away from home. Hazard isn't comfortable playing as a false 9.  Batshuayi has to start but he's now one of the new untouchables (literally) under Conte, so he won't. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 He was an abomination today and has been for months, pure and simple. Tbh it's not even a question of form anymore, it's a question of whether he's making such obviously terrible decisions and mistakes just for us to let him fuck off in the summer. I genuinely believe that is the case. One of my few criticisms of Antonio this season has been his man management of Batshuayi. It's really going to bite him in the ass now because not only Batshuayi has never been given a chance despite Costa being absolute shite like this, when he is going to be given a chance he'll suffer from lack of playing time and pressure from fans. The last thing we need is another Ivanovic and Filipe Luis saga. The Skipper and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marflow 39 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said: I still don't think a strikerless formation is the best way to go. It has its problems and can be easily negated when we play away from home. Hazard isn't comfortable playing as a false 9.  Batshuayi has to start but he's now one of the new untouchables (literally) under Conte, so he won't. The idea is that Pedro would be the false 9,  his movement off the ball is superb and he is always looking to get behind the defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekin 835 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 We saw a few things today that strongly indicate where our weaknesses lie. Our midfield can not have Matic AND Kante (yes, it has taken us to being close to the title, but I think Chelsea has ambitions outside of the PL as well) in it, we need someone who is either far more dynamic than Matic, or on a similar level but a better passer. I honestly think we are better off playing Hazard as a false 9 than Costa up front. We cant afford having a big oaf than is neither fast nor technical as our main goal threat in the first place, and then when you consider that we play very counter-attacking football, then you will lose so much momentum if Costa gets the ball as he is a poor passer as well. He simply does not fit, he is above average as a striker, but he lacks star quality. Morata would be a better link-up player, while Lukaku would offer more pace. Belotti is a mix of those two in my opinion, with Costa's off the ball movement (which I feel is not even close to being enough to justify his presence). Lastly, without Moses AND Alonso, our wing back system fails. Azpili or Zouma are not even close to being properly equipped for their role. I think our team will achieve great things, it really has the spine for it. However, it does need some smart purchases in the summer. One of the three forwards mentioned, a CM like Bakayoko/Fabinho/Nainggolan etc, a wingback like Sandro/Semedo/Mendy etc are huge priorities. I also think we need a new RW. Pedro is a great player, I have grown to like him a lot, but I dont see him as being well suited to deep defenses outside of long shots. Leif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King11Didier 916 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 1 hour ago, MrExcalibur100 said: I still don't think a strikerless formation is the best way to go. It has its problems and can be easily negated when we play away from home. Hazard isn't comfortable playing as a false 9.  Batshuayi has to start but he's now one of the new untouchables (literally) under Conte, so he won't. Better strikeless formation than striker less on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 2 hours ago, BlueLyon said: I hope guys with comments like you take this as a bit of a joke. Or you are being that type of person who when someone does well, you lick their ass and when they do bad, you talk all possible shit about him. If Costa isnt happy here, sure sell him. But saying he should be sold because he is crap is arguably one of most idiotic things you can read here. Much like everyone was liking Mou ass when he was here (except towards the end when we had crap results), when chelsea played bunker for ages and people loved it, now suddenly he is at united and the SAME people talk shit about him for same things they praised him when he was a blue. Ridiculous thinking. The bottom line, people on this forum, sorry including some mods love the players and managers when we win things. The moment we dont or when they play bad, you throw absolutely everything at them. Where is respect? Where is sense of adulthood where nothing is as black and white as people make it seem here? Hazard played bad, but he was "marked'. Costa played bad because he is shit? Wait, he is marked with two players every game. Sure he fucks up some actions, but makes up with freekicks etc. He is in shit form, but if teams sold players based on two shit months, lol that would be funny. SAME was said about Eden last year. Yet people never learn. I would expect kids to talk shit in this thread, but not adults. Because everyone who watches football for longer time and in this case is true chelsea fan, will not want Diego out after two shit months. Period. Never mind talk all kind of crap after all the games Diego won us. You guys are sometimes unbelievable. I would love to see comments if Diego stays and goes back to his best next season. Im sure same people who today forget what Diego did for us, will forget they talked shit about him. I would copypaste the damn thread and show it everytime that same person would start licking their ass after all the insults this season. If you think people want Costa gone because he's playing poorly or of his recent form, then clearly you haven't been following the Costa discussion much. If you go through the last couple of pages or read some of the post-match comments, you would see why people are calling for Costa to be sold. And for the record, I don't go pro-player X when he plays well and anti-player X when he doesn't play well, certainly not in the wrong way. I'll praise and criticize them when it's due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Wonder whether Conte or someone in that dressing room (e.g. Terry) has spoken with Costa over his recent form? Surely someone has to get his head straight for the run-in? We can't keep on playing with '10 men' on the pitch whenever he's in the starting XI. We not only need his goals but we also need performances from him, like the ones in the first half of the season, when he was almost unplayable. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Jason said: If you think people want Costa gone because he's playing poorly or of his recent form, then clearly you haven't been following the Costa discussion much. If you go through the last couple of pages or read some of the post-match comments, you would see why people are calling for Costa to be sold. And for the record, I don't go pro-player X when he plays well and anti-player X when he doesn't play well, certainly not in the wrong way. I'll praise and criticize them when it's due. Offcourse I read the thread? Every second comment including yours is that he is (in other words) shit and people want him out. You called him worse than Torres and I believe you want him out too, or am I wrong. Thats literaly saying he is shit and thats why you want him out. Please dont say its because his attitude, his ball skills. They were the same always. The only difference is he scored goals and now he is not. Most of people were praising him even tho they knew who he is back in december. There were maybe two or three that wanted him out because we need to look longterm. Now you have a bunch of people who want him out. The difference? He is in poor form. People want Costa out because he has been poor for past few weeks. And they believe he is poor because china messed his head. So that is reasonable excuse for talking shit of him? I can create a story about Azpi that he wants to join friend Cech at Arsenal, completely made up story, but if every media started reporting it, I bet my ass people here would be calling him out. Funny we have a bunch of people who know Costa so well personaly, because surely people dont say that based on what media says these days, right? Just saying last year Eden was poor, there were dozen of pages calling him rat, wanting him out because he was "shit". Because media said so. Same is going with Costa. He always performed worse in second half of season. I remember under Mou title season, we were barely grinding those games mostly because of Eden. Costa wasnt that great either as he was in first half. Like this season. Yet, it took half of season and Costa like two years ago, he brought us so many points this year that we are on verge of another title. You can say it is team work and it is, but you are kidding yourself if you dont admit it was Costa who was by a mile the best player till january. I dont say you are pro good players and anti bad form players, but in this case Torres comparisson was certainly rubbish and you just went "wrong way". Unless like I said if you were joking. Because saying Costa is worse than Torres with a serious face, man thats just retarded. I had similar discussion with Special Juan last year about Hazard and I dont want to continue this discussion, because I have nothing against you, but defending Costa on this thread against 15 members trashing him daily because of china move and bad form, its pointless. People just never learn.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: Offcourse I read the thread? Every second comment including yours is that he is (in other words) shit and people want him out. You called him worse than Torres and I believe you want him out too, or am I wrong. Thats literaly saying he is shit and thats why you want him out. Please dont say its because his attitude, his ball skills. They were the same always. The only difference is he scored goals and now he is not. Most of people were praising him even tho they knew who he is back in december. There were maybe two or three that wanted him out because we need to look longterm. Now you have a bunch of people who want him out. The difference? He is in poor form. People want Costa out because he has been poor for past few weeks. And they believe he is poor because china messed his head. So that is reasonable excuse for talking shit of him? I can create a story about Azpi that he wants to join friend Cech at Arsenal, completely made up story, but if every media started reporting it, I bet my ass people here would be calling him out. Funny we have a bunch of people who know Costa so well personaly, because surely people dont say that based on what media says these days, right? Just saying last year Eden was poor, there were dozen of pages calling him rat, wanting him out because he was "shit". Because media said so. Same is going with Costa. He always performed worse in second half of season. I remember under Mou title season, we were barely grinding those games mostly because of Eden. Costa wasnt that great either as he was in first half. Like this season. Yet, it took half of season and Costa like two years ago, he brought us so many points this year that we are on verge of another title. You can say it is team work and it is, but you are kidding yourself if you dont admit it was Costa who was by a mile the best player till january. I dont say you are pro good players and anti bad form players, but in this case Torres comparisson was certainly rubbish and you just went "wrong way". Unless like I said if you were joking. Because saying Costa is worse than Torres with a serious face, man thats just retarded. I had similar discussion with Special Juan last year about Hazard and I dont want to continue this discussion, because I have nothing against you, but defending Costa on this thread against 15 members trashing him daily because of china move and bad form, its pointless. People just never learn.  He brought us many points. Another decent striker doing his job would have brought us more points. This isn't poor form. Poor form is missing sitters. He isn't contributing at all and is a negative on the field. He is just a really streaky player. How can you defend this guy who is fighting invisible demons on the field every game ? Against City Hazard was one on one with Stones when Diego made a foul on fernando way off the ball and the referee blew his whistle stopping the play. He has himself said that he was pushing really hard for a move to Atletico. And then after January his season has fallen apart but we're to believe from you that the rumours are all crap. Believe what you will, but stop acting as if you know anything more than anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 He brought us many points. Another decent striker doing his job would have brought us more points. This isn't poor form. Poor form is missing sitters. He isn't contributing at all and is a negative on the field. He is just a really streaky player. How can you defend this guy who is fighting invisible demons on the field every game ? Against City Hazard was one on one with Stones when Diego made a foul on fernando way off the ball and the referee blew his whistle stopping the play. He has himself said that he was pushing really hard for a move to Atletico. And then after January his season has fallen apart but we're to believe from you that the rumours are all crap. Believe what you will, but stop acting as if you know anything more than anyone else.He is currently contributing in breaking down almost ever attack that he's been involved in for a number of weeks. I honestly can't understand what's happening with him.This form wouldn't interest any side kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 51 minutes ago, nono said: He brought us many points. Another decent striker doing his job would have brought us more points. This isn't poor form. Poor form is missing sitters. He isn't contributing at all and is a negative on the field. He is just a really streaky player. How can you defend this guy who is fighting invisible demons on the field every game ? Against City Hazard was one on one with Stones when Diego made a foul on fernando way off the ball and the referee blew his whistle stopping the play. He has himself said that he was pushing really hard for a move to Atletico. And then after January his season has fallen apart but we're to believe from you that the rumours are all crap. Believe what you will, but stop acting as if you know anything more than anyone else. In one of my previous posts I said that if he wants to leave, then so be it. Like you I dont know what is going behind the scenes. Im not saying he is happy here or china offer never came etc. He is that type of player that goes missing in second half. That doesnt mean its ok to play bad tho. He is just as gulity for poor games and deserves the criticism, I never said he doesnt. What goes on my nerves is people without any proof already throwing him to the gallows. And want him sold after two bad months. And if he stays, same people will praise him when he does well again. Thats all. How does he not contribute to the game tho? Against bournemouth he was involved in two goals still. As for pre january form, who would give us more points? Costa wasnt just decent, but world class till january. Only other two strikers Suarez and Lewa were as good. There were people saying constructive critics that he should be sold because long term it could be better for us. But then you have 2 pages per day of rubbish comments talking of Costa like he NEVER played good for us, treating him like garbage. That shit gets on my nerves. Onform he was best possible striker we could have for three years now. Yet people see only negative stuff.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted April 17, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted April 17, 2017 3 hours ago, BlueLyon said: In one of my previous posts I said that if he wants to leave, then so be it. Like you I dont know what is going behind the scenes. Im not saying he is happy here or china offer never came etc. He is that type of player that goes missing in second half. That doesnt mean its ok to play bad tho. He is just as gulity for poor games and deserves the criticism, I never said he doesnt. What goes on my nerves is people without any proof already throwing him to the gallows. And want him sold after two bad months. And if he stays, same people will praise him when he does well again. Thats all. If you think this is all about Costa's form in the last two months, then you're sorely mistaken. When a striker isn't scoring the goals, the least you want to see is him putting in the effort, helping the team to win matches etc. But Costa is doing neither of them - he isn't scoring goals (only 3 in the league in 2017, compared to 14 in the first half of the season) and he isn't contributing to our goals or our play in general - he can't make simple passes, he's making the wrong decisions etc. If that wasn't bad enough - this is what frustrates people most - Costa has reverted to his petulant behavior. Rather than trying to rediscover his goalscoring form, his performances, he's gone back to being more interested in fighting with players, drawing attention to negative attention to himself and the team on the pitch. And this isn't something we see happening all of a sudden. It's the same thing that we saw in 2014/15 and 2015/16. Are we really just going to sit down here and indulge in this behavior? Are we going to be okay with Costa turning up in the first half of the season and then going AWOL in the second (it's happened in previous seasons too)? 10 hours ago, BlueLyon said: Hazard played bad, but he was "marked'. Costa played bad because he is shit? Wait, he is marked with two players every game. Sure he fucks up some actions, but makes up with freekicks etc. He is in shit form, but if teams sold players based on two shit months, lol that would be funny.  3 hours ago, BlueLyon said: How does he not contribute to the game tho? Against bournemouth he was involved in two goals still. Is this what we've reduced ourselves to? Isn't this what people did with Torres? When he wasn't scoring the goals, people resorted to praising him for doing the smallest of things well, just like what you did with Costa. We are a top club going for titles, not some lesser teams being okay with mid table positions. How can you genuinely be okay with him just winning free kicks etc? You said it's bad that people want him gone because of two months of poor form but isn't it bad too that you're using the Bournemouth game - where he totally mishit the shot for the first goal and won just a free kick - to justify your reasoning of why he shouldn't be sold? It's almost the 'clutching at straws' argument people used for Torres when he was here. Bernard N Y Burgesson, MrExcalibur100, El P. and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Horrific. If we blow the title race my fattest finger will be pointed at him with my pinky pointed at Conte for ALWAYS starting and never subbing this car crash of a player. Not only useless, but a hindrance, drags the team down with him. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Beigl 1,387 Posted April 17, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted April 17, 2017 Diego Costa lost the ball 23 times today vs Man Utd 6 misplaced passes 6 unsuccessful touches 10 dispossessed 1 offside The Skipper, nono, kellzfresh and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnald 256 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 You can't score 14 goals in the first half of the season and suddenly go toothless in the second half of the season.  The only thing he's doing now is picking fights with other players, getting fouled deliberately to fuck the opposition over with a booking, falling on his fat arse every time and breaking down every attack.  From hero to zero. Get him out ASAP. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Beigl said: Diego Costa lost the ball 23 times today vs Man Utd 6 misplaced passes 6 unsuccessful touches 10 dispossessed 1 offside  Also, don't forget that he wins a header maybe once a month at most because he is incredibly weak. I will never understand how you can be an attacking player yet be so fucking useless with the ball. It's mind blowing. Even smaller teams look for forwards with some semblance of technical skill.  MrExcalibur100 and Beigl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Beigl said: Diego Costa lost the ball 23 times today vs Man Utd 6 misplaced passes 6 unsuccessful touches 10 dispossessed 1 offside  Some people think there is an agenda against Costa but the numbers show just how bad he's been. WhoScored say Costa is the first player to have been dispossessed 10 times in a game this season. Beigl, Bernard N Y Burgesson, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Beigl said: Diego Costa lost the ball 23 times today vs Man Utd 6 misplaced passes 6 unsuccessful touches 10 dispossessed 1 offside He is not good at counter-attacks with his shit decisions and passes, above stats prove he is hopeless at keeping possession. What is his function exactly when not scoring? To jog around when their defence have the ball and not do anything else? So far he's had a full shit season (15/16), a great half a season and a horrible 2nd half of a season. 5-6 months of good form versus 13-14 months of incompetence. I was an avid Costa defender before now but his recent slump has taken too long to the point it's endangering our standing. A truly world class striker shows flashes of his quality even when down and contributes in some ways, you watch and you feel he's gonna return to his true level. With Costa now, I have a feeling that even if he returns to his purple patch some day it's not gonna last long and we will have to carry him the rest of the time. When he's out of form you realize how horrible footballer he is, when he's in form you see he can be a deadly striker. Styles, Beigl, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 17, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted April 17, 2017 He looks a completely different player at the moment. Costa on form is a great striker but history has shown that he often goes missing in the second half of the season. Now, it's never been as bad as it has been this season, even last season he was much better than this in the second half of the season, but that's not the main problem for me. He is clearly playing like he doesn't have a future here. He doesn't want to be here. He's way too unreliable. Because of this, our title challenge can potentially be sabotaged. His performance against Crystal Palace sums it up perfectly - the team created chances at will for him but he was almost just like a black hole. I don't want a player with all these issues to be the undisputed #9 at this club. We deserve much better. My problem with Costa isn't that he is a bad player, his form at different parts of his Chelsea career clearly state otherwise. My problem is that he doesn't want to be here. It's very evident to me that he doesn't. Costa is a 'heart on his sleeve' type of person, you can quite clearly see his emotions/state of mind. We can't continue to rely on a volatile player like this, especially if there's a £90m offer waiting in the wings. We'd be absolutely idiotic not to take it. Honestly, wish we sold him in January now. Bernard N Y Burgesson, Beigl, kellzfresh and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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