James Rodríguez

[Pizy 18,415]

7 minutes ago, Styles said:

It seems that people don't care about suitability and just see the name. Honestly, world cup aside I've never been impressed by James.

I would genuinely go another season with Willian + Pedro than buy this guy.

 

And then use the Oscar money on Reus in the summer! 

[dkim2 73]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

And then use the Oscar money on Reus in the summer! 

One thing I learned over the years while watching football over a decade, is that never spend big bucks on broken goods (Torres, Kaka, Gundogan, De Vrij.. etc.) Reus for me is injury prone.

[jernej93 565]

I am getting tired of this comments. Going through this thread makes me feel like I am reading about 2nd division winger that can only pick some through balls and that's it. Sorry to point it out for you but you don't know football. 

You can discuss his suitability, his price tag but you can't argue about his qualities. He is world class player and if Conte finds him suitable for this team than he will make us a world class team. 

One day you all want superstar signing and the other day you are coming up with all the talents around the Europe being better than James Rodriguez  

[LondonsFinest 692]

We have 7 people tracking back, yet people are still on the Jose Mourinho 'workhorse before ability' train.

80% of the chances Willian and Pedro have to put another player in a good scoring position they bottle. They pop up with the odd goal and contribute only, if allowed the needed space, which happens only when playing teams on the counter.

 

James on the other hand has the ability to play amazing passes and through balls. Is a great crosser, has a fantastic long shot and a good finish. I don't want to watch another second of Willian being scared to play Eden through on goal, because he sees two people on him,have some sense. 

 

If Conte wants him, I want him. And even if Conte does not, I still want him, will be a massive improvement.

[-Kaplan- 410]

I watched the world cup qualifier match between Arg-Col, and this guy just shouted and pointed for 90 mins. He even got into an argument with one of his own players for not giving him the ball. 

He has the same shyte attitude as CRonaldo but without the talent. Just a whiny brat.

He would be good for a team that refuses to play defense a la City/Liverpoo.  

[manpe 10,861]

Not sure he'd fit the team. He is the kind of player who thrives off a free role, this role is Hazard's. Not too sure we can have two such playmakers in a free role while retaining defensive solidity. Sanchez is a much more exciting name being thrown around - hard-working, direct and clinical. I'd rather take him for the RW position, Rodriguez doesn't fill me with confidence that he'd come here and do a job on a consistent basis.

[Strike 7,250]

 Sanchez, Griezmann, Dybala, Aubameyang, Reus, Di Maria.Mahrez Off the top of my head. Worth going after for that kind of money. .  

[the wes 7,212]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

 Sanchez, Griezmann, Dybala, Aubameyang, Reus, Di Maria.Mahrez Off the top of my head. Worth going after for that kind of money. .  

Di Maria is a no no Mahrez or Sanchez would be cool we don't need Aubameyang we have Costa 

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

1 hour ago, akgw13 said:

I think if we DO actually pull this off he will work out great. I saw on twitter if you view it as Oscar + 12 million it looks pretty damn good. We have been longing for a Left footed attacker who is a goal threat and can pick a pass no? James is a left footed attacker who is a long range goal threat and can pick a pass. Yes, he is slower than we all would have liked but he isnt Cesc/Alonso level slow. Plus we also have 7 men behind him who can cover up for him like we do with hazard, he has moses/Kante/Azpi behind him and Conte will drill him into at least a decent defensive performance. 

We have been complaining about Pedro/Willain for as long as i can remember and how bad we looked against teams who defend deeply. James could potentially solve BOTH problems and free up some tactical flexibility, while also taking some attention away from hazard/costa which frees up space for them.

Most importantly to me, if Conte wants him than I want him. He has shown he can get things out of players nobody expected. A solid defensive leader David Luiz? A well behaved Diego Costa? Hazard working to get the ball back? Matic the assist machine? Moses the stud RWB? Cesc a hard working professional demeanor super sub determined to earn his spot back?

James has something special in his left footed going forward and it could be exactly what we need to help us get to the next level. Plus if i said Oscar + 12 mill for James Rodriguez everyone would say "yes please" this wont deter us from spending in the Jan/Summer windows it is found money in my eyes.

You can't look at it as Oscar + 12M though because anyone you talk to will tell you Oscar's transfer kitty is a windfall of epic proportions. To waste that money and then some on Rodriguez turns that windfall into a wash... 

Is James tactically diverse enough to play in a number of different roles or is he just gonna replace Pedro or Willian as our ride sided player? 

I want someone who will add to what is already being built, not another Cuadrado.

[akgw13 867]

2 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

You can't look at it as Oscar + 12M though because anyone you talk to will tell you Oscar's transfer kitty is a windfall of epic proportions. To waste that money and then some on Rodriguez turns that windfall into a wash... 

Is James tactically diverse enough to play in a number of different roles or is he just gonna replace Pedro or Willian as our ride sided player? 

I want someone who will add to what is already being built, not another Cuadrado.

To "Waste" is quite a strong statement. I understand you really must not rate him if you think it is throwing away the cash. I can't change your opinion on him and some people seem to think he is a truly useless player by what i am reading which i do not agree with. 

As i have said before i view our front 3 as interchangeable attackers which I believe James has the skills and smarts to thrive in. Freedom with creative players is what we should be after. I think he has the smarts and skill set to play in a variety of formations as i am of the belief that talented players can fill a variety of roles. he could play the furthest up in a 352 (James, Kante, Matic) could play the #10 if conte ever wanted(incredibly unlikely) I think he can fill the right attacking side of the 343 or in a 433.

I believe he adds something that we currently are lacking and we are a better team with him in it. Cuadrado would have been useful to us this year if he wanted to stay but Mourinho soured his view of chelsea to a point that it couldnt be redeemed so I dont think its necessarily fair to bring him up.

[jernej93 565]

25 minutes ago, Strike said:

 Sanchez, Griezmann, Dybala, Aubameyang, Reus, Di Maria.Mahrez Off the top of my head. Worth going after for that kind of money. .  

Atletico won't sell Griezmann and same goes for Juve and Dybala Mahrez or Sanchez of that list  

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

19 minutes ago, akgw13 said:

To "Waste" is quite a strong statement. I understand you really must not rate him if you think it is throwing away the cash. I can't change your opinion on him and some people seem to think he is a truly useless player by what i am reading which i do not agree with. 

As i have said before i view our front 3 as interchangeable attackers which I believe James has the skills and smarts to thrive in. Freedom with creative players is what we should be after. I think he has the smarts and skill set to play in a variety of formations as i am of the belief that talented players can fill a variety of roles. he could play the furthest up in a 352 (James, Kante, Matic) could play the #10 if conte ever wanted(incredibly unlikely) I think he can fill the right attacking side of the 343 or in a 433.

I believe he adds something that we currently are lacking and we are a better team with him in it. Cuadrado would have been useful to us this year if he wanted to stay but Mourinho soured his view of chelsea to a point that it couldnt be redeemed so I dont think its necessarily fair to bring him up.

Do you think James is worth 70M?

[akgw13 867]

1 minute ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

Do you think James is worth 70M?

In a market where Raheem Sterling and John Stones are 50m and we sold Oscar to china for 60, if the coach wants James than Yes I do think he is worth it.

If i am starting a team from scratch and have 70m to spend on one player, maybe not. But in our situation, with what we need, and if Conte wants him than Yes.

I would rather spend the money on Verratti or Griezz (Dybala can't be had, I wish) BUT there is a reason i keep saying "if Conte wants him" because if our coach who has earned the right to buy whoever he wants in my eyes says "Thats my guy, go get him" I think we should support his wishes.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

39 minutes ago, Strike said:

 Sanchez, Griezmann, Dybala, Aubameyang, Reus, Di Maria.Mahrez Off the top of my head. Worth going after for that kind of money. .  

Yeah but the difference here is you have a player who's not playing this much at his own club actively seeking a move away. The stars you mention are content where they are.even if they're stuck at the likes of Arsenal lmao.

James is more attainable than those you've mentioned imo.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

1 minute ago, akgw13 said:

In a market where Raheem Sterling and John Stones are 50m and we sold Oscar to china for 60, if the coach wants James than Yes I do think he is worth it.

If i am starting a team from scratch and have 70m to spend on one player, maybe not. But in our situation, with what we need, and if Conte wants him than Yes.

I would rather spend the money on Verratti or Griezz (Dybala can't be had, I wish) BUT there is a reason i keep saying "if Conte wants him" because if our coach who has earned the right to buy whoever he wants in my eyes says "Thats my guy, go get him" I think we should support his wishes.

We're not in a position to buy players in the way that China and City have. Knowing that, do you think Chelsea FC should buy James for 70M?

[akgw13 867]

Just now, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

We're not in a position to buy players in the way that China and City have. Knowing that, do you think Chelsea FC should buy James for 70M?

What makes you think we are not in a position to buy players the way city has? we just have chosen not to spend as freely as they have recently but by no means if we spend the cash and he sucks are we completely screwed? I have made my thoughts on the matter clear, IF conte wants the player and it takes 70m than I think we should buy him. 

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Just now, akgw13 said:

What makes you think we are not in a position to buy players the way city has? we just have chosen not to spend as freely as they have recently but by no means if we spend the cash and he sucks are we completely screwed? I have made my thoughts on the matter clear, IF conte wants the player and it takes 70m than I think we should buy him. 

Because we never have. 

[akgw13 867]

4 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

Because we never have. 

That is a debate for another time and another forum. We have never been shy about spending cash on transfers. If conte said to you "This is the player i want, we are in first place and just sold oscar for 60m get me him" Would you say no?