Is Chelsea The Most Hated Club In Europe?

[lionsden 4,689]

There are no teams with championship aspirations that play with youngsters. Those are fairytales.

I remember occasions when this happened, but it was the result of some emergency condition of one kind or another. Some of them become great players after two years, but it's only under unusual cicrumstances that the big teams do that.

There exist youngster teams though around the world who are mainly middle of the table sides and they produce the majority of new talents.

And what's the relevance of this statement as no one is championing the idea of first team squad composed entirely of youngsters and secondly there have been plenty of clubs with championship aspirations both in the past and present who have/had youngsters in their first team squad getting regular playing time to make your statement inaccurate. And if you bothered to read the very post you quoted you would have seen the evidence. And while we are at it, let's close down the academy and just buy an entire squad. . . .and people wonder why they call our fans plastic.

[lionsden 4,689]

They hate because we win the ugly way and "parking the bus" but we don't want to be the crowd favorite and win nothing like arsenal, football is about trophies not about sexy football.

This is a very lazy way to argue.

attractive football and success are not mutually exclusive. Arsenal haven't being able to replicate their earlier success due to other factors not necessarily related to their style of play.

[NishC300 1,865]

This is a very lazy way to argue.

attractive football and success are not mutually exclusive. Arsenal haven't being able to replicate their earlier success due to other factors not necessarily related to their style of play.

Exactly. On another day a person on Twitter was saying "I prefer winning over attractive football". I mean it's not like Who wants to be a Millionaire where it's either a,b,c or d. Lots of clubs win by attractive football.

Gotze's a poor example, considering he played for Dortmund. if Dortmund were fueled with millions, the chances of him making it through would be slim.

Your Gotze example is irrelevant because Borussia finished 5th in his breakthrough season. They weren't challenging for the title.

Yes but oppositions fans don't think like that. I'm saying why opponents hate us. U can't expect others to admire a club that currently only has John Terry from its youth. Moreover, we earned a bit of a reputation for 'destroying' youth. Look how many players we have on loan, many of them living with (it feels quite cruel to say) false hope of one day representing Chelsea. And in the end many of these talented young players end up nowhere.

[The only place to be 11,313]

There are no teams with championship aspirations that play with youngsters. Those are fairytales.

A bit extreme. Young players on Championship sides exist in a weird dimension - they are at the same time a necessity and a luxury.

Teams nowadays need to bring through youngsters, ideally as key first-team members, in order to comply with FFP. You can also go the route we have of stockpiling players and selling them later on - I'm sure other teams hate us for that because we're ahead of the curve in that regard. EVERY club will recognise the difficulty with going from good young prospect to productive professional. Having a 'B team' like Vitesse or simply loaning out players like we do is probably the best method for this so far and we probably do it better than anyone else.

But when you put them into a team challenging for the title, they are a luxury generally speaking. Anyone making a step up like that in any profession will take time to bed in and adjust to the pace and you have to cover them. Simply put, we haven't had a good enough team to do that for a good few years now. If you've got an established spine then you can add in youngsters and these other players will cover for them.

For example, Chalobah. Could you put him alongside a Mikel or Ramires and expect them to cover for him? Absolutely not. But alongside Matic?? That's a more reasonable expectation, especially if you have a solid defence behind him and players like Hazard and Costa up top.

[bushman 2,043]

What does it mean to play an attractive football, I love to know?

Jose plays according to what´s available for that particular day. Today´s game, for example. Should he play at attractive football & open up? Lol.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Yes but oppositions fans don't think like that. I'm saying why opponents hate us. U can't expect others to admire a club that currently only has John Terry from its youth. Moreover, we earned a bit of a reputation for 'destroying' youth

So other teams' supporters hate us because they're morons? Who gives a fuck why they hate us then?

What is surprising is the number of Chelsea 'fans' who buy into this shit and castigate the club based on it. You don't have to look much higher than this post to see some examples of that.

Fuck those 'fans' too.

It happens in other sports too. Saracens used to get shit for their recruitment practices and for playing boring rugby....yesterday the destroyed Clermont by 40 points and scored 6 tries because they stuck with that process, built a solid team and added the bells and frills in time. It required patience and support from their supporters (supporters and supporting come from the same root word http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/support )....what a novel idea.

[Ze Mario 638]

apparently we killed football today

[zolayes 14,489]

apparently we killed football today

is football a cat with NINE lives ???,, cos we keep killing the poor pussy

[BloodIsBlue 291]

'Because we are the famous CFC'

[AndersonBLUE 819]

All aboard the party bus hahaha

[LAB 1,030]

We most definitely are, now! HAHAHAHAHAHA I LOVE IT

[Thendo 1,088]

Yes, and I Love it!

[iseah100 5,612]

FUCKKKKKK YESSSS WE ARE! BAHAHAHAHAHA

[The only place to be 11,313]

We're hated under Jose for one reason - he doesn't actually care that much about the football on the pitch. That 90 minutes between the first and the final whistle is completely incidental to him. All that matters is the result and for some that goes against the 'purity' of the sport (a sport governed by money that puts finances ahead of fans most of the time, but that's another point entirely).

It was the same under Robbie as well. When we went to Barca we didn't try and play football against them like Wenger did a few years before. We went to stop them and hit them on the counter. It doesn't make for pretty football but all that matters are the results.

Now the rub is that in time fancy football will come - It always does with Jose, but at the moment we're all about results and nothing else. That's why we're hated.

[Muzchap 8,966]

We're hated under Jose for one reason - he doesn't actually care that much about the football on the pitch. That 90 minutes between the first and the final whistle is completely incidental to him. All that matters is the result and for some that goes against the 'purity' of the sport (a sport governed by money that puts finances ahead of fans most of the time, but that's another point entirely).

It was the same under Robbie as well. When we went to Barca we didn't try and play football against them like Wenger did a few years before. We went to stop them and hit them on the counter. It doesn't make for pretty football but all that matters are the results.

Now the rub is that in time fancy football will come - It always does with Jose, but at the moment we're all about results and nothing else. That's why we're hated.

Absolutely spot-on!

There's always a correlation between being hated and 'winning' things - it's a perverse mentality.

Would I rather be successful or popular - it's clear to see the obvious choice.

Also outrageous and unrealistic opinions from fans has led to contempt - Spurs are annoyed because of AvB (their fault) - Utd fans because they thought Mourinho might join them (no chance) add in the 'we bought the title, cups' comment and it's clear to see that the 'low education' people have a problem...

I'd love to see a table comparing the last 30 years of NET SPENDING with us, City, Utd, Arsenal and Loserpool...

I think it would be pretty evident we've not bought the titles and cups - but merely caught up with their spending (they spent a lot over a long period, we spent huge in a short period) - either way the money was spent and WE have a fantastic return on that investment! A lot of those clubs don't - hence the bitterness... Should we feel sympathy for the poor way in which they have been managed? Should we fuck...

[Y123CFC 69]

Question for the older fans , have we always been hated?

I hear people saying we were quite hated due to the hooliganism, etc then I hear others saying we were everyone's second team!

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Question for the older fans , have we always been hated?

I hear people saying we were quite hated due to the hooliganism, etc then I hear others saying we were everyone's second team!

Think it's a mixture. Hooliganism is a fascinating topic, and one Chelsea has a bad history with. We were definitely hated and feared cause of it. It would probably be in the mid 1990's where we became the second team of quite a lot of people, largely thanks to Zola. We were hated again cause of Ken Bates. That's what I seem to have understood from what I've read, it could be different if an older Chelsea fan would talk about it. @zolayes,

[zolayes 14,489]

Think it's a mixture. Hooliganism is a fascinating topic, and one Chelsea has a bad history with. We were definitely hated and feared cause of it. It would probably be in the mid 1990's where we became the second team of quite a lot of people, largely thanks to Zola. We were hated again cause of Ken Bates. That's what I seem to have understood from what I've read, it could be different if an older Chelsea fan would talk about it. @zolayes,

its true we did have hooligans but most clubs did ,, many werent actually supporters merely goons who wanted an excuse to fight ,

one of the first big hooligan gang was the self styled "Red Army" Manure fans . Our bad press really did start with Ken Bates having his private war with The Daily Mail

and other newspapers .. The level of Press hatred stepped up a few levels when Roman came in and we started to challenge the "loved ones" , It went up another

few levels when we started to win . A last point about the treatment of fans ,, in the 70s fans were treated disgracefully by the police.

fans charged by mounted police ,, fans struck by police just to show they could . trains held outside stations so fans missed the start of games .

The police were savage and exacerbated the situation. Any bad fan behaviour was highlighted by the Tory Press ..

The police are a good deal better but if anything the Media are worse ...

[cosmicway 1,333]

I dispute that under Jose we systematically fail to impress.

Against Liverpool 2-1 at home, City 1-0 away, Arsenal 6-0 we played fantastic.

Against PSG they were strange games. A bad game in Paris from both and a lucky (for them) 3-1 result then in the replay we did have possession but never looked like scoring more than we did.

You can say that the rest of the opposition this year did not more or less amount to much to merit discussion (Schalke ? Petrolul ?).

Parked bus performances were against Atletico first leg and Man Utd early in the season. Sunday's match against the scousers does n't really count in that respet because we played caution.

[Steagles 70]

I don't hear all of the hate really here in the United States, but that's really because the majority of my friends I talk football with are also Chelsea fans. I have a few that like United for whatever reason and there's some trash talking, but nothing realling incredibly hostile. However, I don't doubt that Chelsea are one of the most hated clubs on earth because of both success, funds, as well as the ever great trash talker Jose Mourinho.