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I'm sure I'm in the minority, but when he was in the team last season he just didn't inspire me with that much confidence up the back. Neither does Cahill, but I simply don't see all the talent and hype that some people see with him. I'd love to be wrong, but I just don't see the thing everyone is going crazy for. I really don't think he is a bang on starter every week quality player.Β 

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He's built like a tank but I'm afraid that injury and the extended time on the sidelinesΒ affected a lot his status in the squad. Seeing how much our defenders play with the ball at their feet under Conte I think that atm Christensen is ahead of him in the pecking order because of his ball playing abilities. For me Azpilicueta and David Luiz cannot and will not be dropped by Conte in the near future so it remains to be seen who is the one to be putting Cahill's place in the starting 11 in danger come next summer. It's either Christensen or a new signing imo.Β 

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Hes looking Happy

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Photo: Kurt Zouma all smiles on physio table ahead of Boro v Chelsea

The Chelsea defender appears to have come through 90 minutes unscathed earlier this week

http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2016/11/photo-kurt-zouma-all-smiles-on-physio-table-ahead-of-boro-v-chelsea/

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On 09/11/2016 at 11:09 AM, Thor said:

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but when he was in the team last season he just didn't inspire me with that much confidence up the back. Neither does Cahill, but I simply don't see all the talent and hype that some people see with him. I'd love to be wrong, but I just don't see the thing everyone is going crazy for. I really don't think he is a bang on starter every week quality player.Β 

Agree

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20 hours ago, Muzchap said:

Trouble is, the world and football especially- do not work like that.Β 

City arguably have the best team in the league - but we're above them...Β 

you can have 11 superstars - hasn't worked that well for Real Madrid has it?Β 

IMHO it's better to have a team of hard working players with a sprinkling of World Class players - that's what we should be aiming for.Β 

This. I dont get people who say good, but limited players (who are also hard workers) should be replaced eventually with more versatile and attacking.Β 

Azpi, Zouma to name a few.Β 

Trophies are won by teams and if you ever played football, hard working team players are key for that. You need few individual quality too, but Β not everyone from CB to fullback to striker.

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Napoli could make a January swoop for ChelseaΒ defenderΒ Kurt Zouma, according to Mediaset Premium.

The Italian sports TV channel claims the Partenopei are looking to Stamford Bridge for reinforcements.

Zouma has been out ofΒ actionΒ following a ruptured cruciate ligament in February, but is ready for his comeback.

Napoli are seeking another centre-back following injury problems for Raul Albiol this season.

The 22-year-old is under contract with Chelsea until June 2019.

This story also emerges after reports today of Manchester United interest in right-back Elseid Hysaj, as Zouma can also play in that role.

http://www.football-italia.net/94480/napoli-consider-zouma-bid

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On 15/11/2016 at 7:05 PM, Muzchap said:

Trouble is, the world and football especially- do not work like that.Β 

City arguably have the best team in the league - but we're above them...Β 

you can have 11 superstars - hasn't worked that well for Real Madrid has it?Β 

IMHO it's better to have a team of hard working players with a sprinkling of World Class players - that's what we should be aiming for.Β 

This is rubbish. The team with the best players is almost always going to win trophies in their respective leagues. How often do teams outside of Barcelona/Real Madrid, PSG, Juventus, Man City/Chelsea/United/Arsenal, Bayern Munich, etc. win the league? How often do they win the CL?

Money brings in the best talent and the best talent wins you trophies. You can put whatever spin you want on it but the reality is 11 world class players are going to defeat 11 hard working players 9 times out of 10. In my opinion you can carry one or two honest battlers, not seven or eight, as you're suggesting.

Also, Real Madrid have won two out of the last three CL and are on top of La Liga, if it's not working for them then I'd like to know your definition of 'working'.

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9 hours ago, Dazzy_Vance said:

This is rubbish. The team with the best players is almost always going to win trophies in their respective leagues. How often do teams outside of Barcelona/Real Madrid, PSG, Juventus, Man City/Chelsea/United/Arsenal, Bayern Munich, etc. win the league? How often do they win the CL?

Money brings in the best talent and the best talent wins you trophies. You can put whatever spin you want on it but the reality is 11 world class players are going to defeat 11 hard working players 9 times out of 10. In my opinion you can carry one or two honest battlers, not seven or eight, as you're suggesting.

Also, Real Madrid have won two out of the last three CL and are on top of La Liga, if it's not working for them then I'd like to know your definition of 'working'.

That said, they have only one liga title since 2008.

Two CLs is remarkable, but they had more luck than skill in both finals. I would go to a point that CL is a type of competition that relies on dayform and whatever you call "luck". We won CL with arguably worst squad, we finished 6th in that season. When we actualy had amazing quality squad in 2008 final or 2009, we didnt win because "luck" wasnt there. Domestic titles are way more balanced because they take whole year and you play each team twice. Its what I call undisputed champion. CL is far cry from that. But sure its prestigious to win it nevertheless. I just wouldnt agree that best team wins the CL. For example when we won it, Bayern was better allround. Same for when Real won it, few others were better.Β 

If titles are all that counts, Real doesnt have many liga titles and if you count overall performance, Real is far from dominant as barca was despite all the money spent.Β 

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19 hours ago, the wes said:

Napoli could make a January swoop for ChelseaΒ defenderΒ Kurt Zouma, according to Mediaset Premium.

The Italian sports TV channel claims the Partenopei are looking to Stamford Bridge for reinforcements.

Zouma has been out ofΒ actionΒ following a ruptured cruciate ligament in February, but is ready for his comeback.

Napoli are seeking another centre-back following injury problems for Raul Albiol this season.

The 22-year-old is under contract with Chelsea until June 2019.

This story also emerges after reports today of Manchester United interest in right-back Elseid Hysaj, as Zouma can also play in that role.

http://www.football-italia.net/94480/napoli-consider-zouma-bid

i know mate, It woukd break my heart, I saw a long great future with Happy and us!!!

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Conte: It’s β€œfantastic” to have Zouma back available
http://www.squawka.com/news/conte-its-fantastic-to-have-zouma-back-available/829794#rvjUWi8UExJGgWzE.99
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On 18/11/2016 at 6:26 AM, Dazzy_Vance said:

This is rubbish. The team with the best players is almost always going to win trophies in their respective leagues. How often do teams outside of Barcelona/Real Madrid, PSG, Juventus, Man City/Chelsea/United/Arsenal, Bayern Munich, etc. win the league? How often do they win the CL?

Money brings in the best talent and the best talent wins you trophies. You can put whatever spin you want on it but the reality is 11 world class players are going to defeat 11 hard working players 9 times out of 10. In my opinion you can carry one or two honest battlers, not seven or eight, as you're suggesting.

Also, Real Madrid have won two out of the last three CL and are on top of La Liga, if it's not working for them then I'd like to know your definition of 'working'.

In a forum - you express views, that's my view.Β 

Labelling it 'Rubbish' is your opinion- and I disagree - you are the epitomy of 'buying success'

How does Leicester City fit into your view of the world, or didn't that happen? I gues Porto winning the CL didn't happen either? Or Greece winning the Euros? How about Portugal?Β 

With 11 Superstars comes massive egos. You end up with a team like City... Lots of promise - no end product.Β 

Finally, look at United and their dominance over the past 20 years - a solid team with a sprinkling of superstar players...Β 

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2 hours ago, Muzchap said:

In a forum - you express views, that's my view.Β 

Labelling it 'Rubbish' is your opinion- and I disagree - you are the epitomy of 'buying success'

How does Leicester City fit into your view of the world, or didn't that happen? I gues Porto winning the CL didn't happen either? Or Greece winning the Euros? How about Portugal?Β 

With 11 Superstars comes massive egos. You end up with a team like City... Lots of promise - no end product.Β 

Finally, look at United and their dominance over the past 20 years - a solid team with a sprinkling of superstar players...Β 

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No offense but i don't like it when Leicester is used as an example, that was a total freak one off in football (mainly driven by Kante's engine)Β and the rest of youre examples are knockout football, were there's a lot more of a chance for an underdog to do something special, i mean our worst team talent wise since the mid 90's pulled of the CL, yet in the league we were rubbish and out of our depth.

United teams of the last 20 years had a lot of position's where they had the best in, Schmeichel, G.Neville, Irwin, Stam,Β Scholes, Giggs, Beckham Van Nisselroy,Cole were all in the top 3 in their position in late 90's/early 00's.Β Ferdinand, Vidic, Van Der Sar, Evra, Ronaldo, Carrick (stupidly underrated player), Rooney and Tevez likewise in the three in a row team of the late 00's. Yes you need some work horse squad players as well, but to sustain success over a period of time you need at least 6/7 maybe 8 players who are in the top 3 at worst 4Β in EnglandΒ in their position.

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18 hours ago, Tomo said:

No offense but i don't like it when Leicester is used as an example, that was a total freak one off in football (mainly driven by Kante's engine)Β and the rest of youre examples are knockout football, were there's a lot more of a chance for an underdog to do something special, i mean our worst team talent wise since the mid 90's pulled of the CL, yet in the league we were rubbish and out of our depth.

United teams of the last 20 years had a lot of position's where they had the best in, Schmeichel, G.Neville, Irwin, Stam,Β Scholes, Giggs, Beckham Van Nisselroy,Cole were all in the top 3 in their position in late 90's/early 00's.Β Ferdinand, Vidic, Van Der Sar, Evra, Ronaldo, Carrick (stupidly underrated player), Rooney and Tevez likewise in the three in a row team of the late 00's. Yes you need some work horse squad players as well, but to sustain success over a period of time you need at least 6/7 maybe 8 players who are in the top 3 at worst 4Β in EnglandΒ in their position.

People like to forget that Modric or Ribery are not work horses. Just because they are creative midfielder or winger it doesnt mean they are not hardworkers.Β 

Thats the difference between Cesc and Modric. You NEED quality players in your squad. Sure. But also you need hardworkers at same time. Thats why Modric or Kante or Koke are regarded as one of best in the world.Β 

Quality is always wanted and demanded. But I would avoid players like James,Cesc etc who are quality, but dont have the fight in them.Β 

I dont know why people want to replace Azpi, Alonso or Moses either. They are doing great and people look for their replacements already.Β 

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