xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Breaking transfer news: Villa secure loan deal for Chelsea acehttp://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3624822,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Caliber X 27 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Does this mean that Shaw is coming this window? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Needs to be playing at his age and hopefully it bumps up his transfer value a bit, although doesn't bode well for the Shaw deal this January if he was a realistic exchange option. Maybe he'll be included in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 bertrand on loan... fuck... thats just stupid.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Means two things....Azpi and Cole for the LB spot or Shaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Does this mean that Shaw is coming this window?Very unlikely. Looks like Azpi & Cole for LB and Ivanovic & Azpi for RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Bertrand out on loan? Unless Shaw is coming in, it's not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Well that escalated quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 bertrand on loan... fuck... thats just stupid..Why? He isn't playing for us so why not give him a chance to go and prove himself. The guy's 24. He needs to be playing football and he didn't seem likely to get it here.Maybe this does mean we're getting Shaw in a straight cash deal though. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 6 defenders for 4 positions. just plain stupid. 2 out of those 6 are 33 year olds. how does this deal help us in anyway? Mufassir08 and Vybz Kartel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 6 defenders for 4 positions. just plain stupid. 2 out of those 6 are 33 year olds. how does this deal help us in anyway?ColeAzpiIvanovicKalasLuizTerryCahill7 for 4. Not ideal but Bertrand wasn't being included anyway so the situation isn't vastly different than it was an hour ago. His transfer value was dropping so maybe this increases it or maybe we're actually looking at getting Zouma or Shaw in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Schurrle will miss his best friend DJames 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 ColeAzpiIvanovicKalasLuizTerryCahill7 for 4. Not ideal but Bertrand wasn't being included anyway so the situation isn't vastly different than it was an hour ago. His transfer value was dropping so maybe this increases it or maybe we're actually looking at getting Zouma or Shaw in.I thought Kalas should have been the one going on loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 ColeAzpiIvanovicKalasLuizTerryCahill7 for 4. Not ideal but Bertrand wasn't being included anyway so the situation isn't vastly different than it was an hour ago. His transfer value was dropping so maybe this increases it or maybe we're actually looking at getting Zouma or Shaw in.KALAS??? is he still here!!! tell me the number of minutes he has played.SCENARIO - iva not available for city match, just in case one of azpi/cole gets injured, who hell is going to play LB/RB??? essien??? kalas??? this is a STUPID move. even if we buy LUKE right now, its still stupid cos we will be paying at least 20+mil for a LB. no spin that u can put to this move can make it any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Bertrand will be a very good signing for Villa Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 KALAS??? is he still here!!! tell me the number of minutes he has played.In the league? 64 minutes less than Bertrand.SCENARIO - iva not available for city match, just in case one of azpi/cole gets injured, who hell is going to play LB/RB??? essien??? kalas??? this is a STUPID move. even if we buy LUKE right now, its still stupid cos we will be paying at least 20+mil for a LB. no spin that u can put to this move can make it any better.Probably Luiz. Yes in hypotheticals it could be bad, but football clubs have to be run on the reality of the situation.We've let a player who has played 64 minutes of league football go on loan. If nothing it gets his wages off the books, but it might also be a sign of us signing Luke Shaw who could be the future of this club. Loaning a player who wasn't being used doesn't need spin. He's third choice left-back and he's got himself a decent loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Caliber X 27 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 He will finally have a chance to show what he really can do. I'm sure he can do a really good job, whenever he played for us he never looked out of place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wow, what a BS move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Why is it wrong for Bertrand to go out on a loan ?He has fallen back in the pecking order & him playing at Aston just be what he needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 In the league? 64 minutes less than Bertrand.Probably Luiz. Yes in hypotheticals it could be bad, but football clubs have to be run on the reality of the situation.We've let a player who has played 64 minutes of league football go on loan. If nothing it gets his wages off the books, but it might also be a sign of us signing Luke Shaw who could be the future of this club. Loaning a player who wasn't being used doesn't need spin. He's third choice left-back and he's got himself a decent loan.we have BA and essien "on the books" earning 80k and 100k respectively but are worried about bertrand's wages? weird!!how conviniently u emphasize on "league". RB was never going to be the first team player. where he is used best was in squad rotation. with the FA cup matches and replays to be played, that is where he would have been useful. also, in giving a "rest" to our fullbacks before big european nights in quarters and semis.what i dont get is, its fine having 3 strikers for 1 positions, 6 CMs for 2 positions but bertrand as our 7th defender is unnecessary.also, the shaw deal, still makes no sense. 20mil for him to be our 3rd choice LB cos i dont see jose dropping iva once he comes back and every1 knows his favouritism towards ash. also the scenario i gave u might be hypothetical but can so easily be "reality". injuries in football is not unheard of and thats why "big" teams normally have "squad" depth.i mean lets look at man city - kolarov, clichy, zabaleta, richards as their fullbacks and kompany, demichellis, nastastic, and lescott as their cbs. and here we are sending a perfectly fine squad player on loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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