Clevemayer 764 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I always said Bert is as good as it gets but ppl criticised me and started finding criticism for him were there was no need he should leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lionsden 4,689 Posted December 27, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted December 27, 2014 He's still needed here. all we have to do is switch azpi back to his natural position and let him be back up to filipe. The funny thing is that what he's doing this season at Southampton, He was also doing with us but people always see the grass as greener on the otherside. I promise you he hasn't just started performing like a very competent and accomplished leftback this season.he's been doing that since he was prmoted to the Chelsea first team but people see what they want to see. Some of us recognmised this but others chose to label him average and midtable level talent. Madmax, Clevemayer, CHOULO19 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 He's still needed here. all we have to do is switch azpi back to his natural position and let him be back up to filipe. The funny thing is that what he's doing this season at Southampton, He was also doing with us but people always see the grass as greener on the otherside. I promise you he hasn't just started performing like a very competent and accomplished leftback this season.he's been doing that since he was prmoted to the Chelsea first team but people see what they want to see. Some of us recognmised this but others chose to label him average and midtable level talent.well said ,, totally under rated ... lionsden and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 He's still needed here. all we have to do is switch azpi back to his natural position and let him be back up to filipe. The funny thing is that what he's doing this season at Southampton, He was also doing with us but people always see the grass as greener on the otherside. I promise you he hasn't just started performing like a very competent and accomplished leftback this season.he's been doing that since he was prmoted to the Chelsea first team but people see what they want to see. Some of us recognmised this but others chose to label him average and midtable level talent.We'd be over him like a rash if he had a name like Ryaninho and cost £15m from some Brazilian/Spanish/Portuguese club. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Absolutely superb finish and with his right foot too! Was amazed when it went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 He's still needed here. all we have to do is switch azpi back to his natural position and let him be back up to filipe. The funny thing is that what he's doing this season at Southampton, He was also doing with us but people always see the grass as greener on the otherside. I promise you he hasn't just started performing like a very competent and accomplished leftback this season.he's been doing that since he was prmoted to the Chelsea first team but people see what they want to see. Some of us recognmised this but others chose to label him average and midtable level talent.You know what I remember, when I pointed out to the ones labelling him average that he done a very good job in every game he played. I cannot recall one game where he was a liability for us. People were trying to judge his loan at Villa as evidence he was not good enough to play here and as I was saying when you are playing for a team like Villa whose style is so dull of course he will not be able to showcase his talents but at a free flowing team like Southampton we are seeing the best of him.But you know what if he was here he would have been used like Luis and played back up to Azpi and he would not have been happy so I am happy he has gone and playing regular football at a very good team and proving he is a quality LB. His defensive awareness is quality as well, not just his attacking. Ideally the best scenario for me would to see him be our future no.1 LB but I know what will never happen unfortunately. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I still can't figure out what Jose didn't like in this kid. Chelsea lad & played a part in one of the Club's Biggest moments. .So did Bosingwa and Kalou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 So did Bosingwa and Kalou Mock kalou all you want, he was actually a great squad player. The amount of vital goals he scored for us as a squad player is incredible. Roquila, Madmax, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 You know what I remember, when I pointed out to the ones labelling him average that he done a very good job in every game he played. I cannot recall one game where he was a liability for us. People were trying to judge his loan at Villa as evidence he was not good enough to play here and as I was saying when you are playing for a team like Villa whose style is so dull of course he will not be able to showcase his talents but at a free flowing team like Southampton we are seeing the best of him.But you know what if he was here he would have been used like Luis and played back up to Azpi and he would not have been happy so I am happy he has gone and playing regular football at a very good team and proving he is a quality LB. His defensive awareness is quality as well, not just his attacking. Ideally the best scenario for me would to see him be our future no.1 LB but I know what will never happen unfortunately.Precisely. The funny thing is those who label him an average player are the same people that consider Ivanovic world class whe in reality Bertrand is more consistent (defensively) and makes far less defensive mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Precisely. The funny thing is those who label him an average player are the same people that consider Ivanovic world class whe in reality Bertrand is more consistent (defensively) and makes far less defensive mistakes.Well ivanovics best skills are truly elite (strength , headers), bertrand is well rounded with no major weakness nor outstanding abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Well ivanovics best skills are truly elite (strength , headers), bertrand is well rounded with no major weakness nor outstanding abilities.Well, his pace is pretty outstanding. Creativity also pretty outstanding for a fullback. Going forward he's been the best LB in the league along with Baines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I still can't figure out what Jose didn't like in this kid. Chelsea lad & played a part in one of the Club's Biggest moments. I hope we don't let him go.I'll be honest, if playing in the CL final for your club means you should be in the 2014-15 Chelsea squad then get Kalou and Malouda back. I hate to say it but hes only just a decent full back, not much else than that to be honest although I remember the cracking game he had at the Emirates before we played Barca in the CL at the Bridge under Robbie and also in the league cup under Jose last year against Arsenal he was good I thought.And all in all, would it be good for his career to keep him here when hes never gonna get a game ahead of much more superior players in Felipe Luis and Cesar Azpilicueta? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantdeville 195 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'll be honest, if playing in the CL final for your club means you should be in the 2014-15 Chelsea squad then get Kalou and Malouda back. I hate to say it but hes only just a decent full back, not much else than that to be honest although I remember the cracking game he had at the Emirates before we played Barca in the CL at the Bridge under Robbie and also in the league cup under Jose last year against Arsenal he was good I thought.And all in all, would it be good for his career to keep him here when hes never gonna get a game ahead of much more superior players in Felipe Luis and Cesar Azpilicueta? No. My, my. The voice of reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 My, my. The voice of reason.I take it that means someone who voices your opinions,there are many reasonable posters on here who rate Bertrand.you have an interesting favourite player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantdeville 195 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I take it that means someone who voices your opinions,there are many reasonable posters on here who rate Bertrand.you have an interesting favourite playerHaha. You're absolutely right, I do rate Bertrand. I hope for the best for this kid. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Said it before, never had a bad game in my memory but for some reason when he did play our goals came from that side, again I can't remember Bertrand making a mistake persay. There's alot more we do not see, we see match performances and very very very limited training footage for obvious reasons. I feel sorry for him but if he's not being put into the team then there has to be a reason that is football or personal related that the staff do not like. I'd love it if he came back in the summer and was given a fair crack because it LOOKS like he could give us something with hazard but it's down to Jose and preferring Dave for defensive structure and Luis for attacking structure. Another thing to bare in mind is that lukaku syndrome, one thing to play for Southampton, another for Chelsea. BlueKevin1 and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm so disappointed in the board for the treatment of Ryan he is a quality left back and definitely should be with us and not on loan Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm so disappointed in the board for the treatment of Ryan he is a quality left back and definitely should be with us and not on loanWhat the board has to do anything with this? Mourinho preferred azpi over him, so nothing more to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I hope he comes back to us next season, can't see it happening, though.IMO, Luis was an unnecessary buy for us. Never did see the logic in it, not saying he's not a quality player, especially in these FFP days of yore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantdeville 195 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I hope he comes back to us next season, can't see it happening, though.IMO, Luis was an unnecessary buy for us. Never did see the logic in it, not saying he's not a quality player, especially in these FFP days of yore.A couple of things are working against that here. Haven't been watching him all season but at least today Valencia was eating him alive. Maybe a one-off bad showing. Mostly though, Bertrand voiced his discontent with the Chelsea youth policy, that there's been years of unfulfilled promises and explicitly stated his priority is first team football over loyalty to Chelsea. Im pretty sure he said that he sees his future away from Chelsea. OhForAGreavsie and CurlyHairLikeLuiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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