The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 If you look at how the season has turned out so far, it feels like we and Arsenal are experiencing a similar season but only in reverse. We had a great first half of the campaign, picking up points and piling up the wins while Arsenal suffered the opposite and were inconsistent with their results. Now, we are slightly inconsistent and somewhat limping over the line while they are racking up the wins like there's no tomorrow.Not really, no. We're not as slick as the start of the season but we're still getting results. Arsenal weren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Not really, no. We're not as slick as the start of the season but we're still getting results. Arsenal weren't.Hence, I said 'similar'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hence, I said 'similar'! No Jase. Similar would mean we're dropping a lot of points ourselves right now but we're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 No Jase. Similar would mean we're dropping a lot of points ourselves right now but we're not. I also said, 'slightly' inconsistent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Plus we both had tougher first halves of the season, but only we responded very well. Overachieved somewhat (not really but you get the point).They are just having a more "normal response". Their tougher half season cost them points and their easier one gained them form. We have done the exact opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I am trying to not get carried away as last year i was sure we were going to win the title and to be honest was crushed we didnt, so i am still taking it game by game, there is still alot of points on offer and some tricky games but it would be awesome if we could win it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Its almost over. Its shocking that Arsenal is not going to win this year, because they squad is just better than ours, specially in attacking terms. Mourinho factor will explain the table at this moment. How so? Compare the two squads from Saturday's matches.Starting XICourtois > Ospina - easily Courtois is the better of the two, though Ospina is underrated, and it is criminal it took so long for Wenger to realise how much better he is than that Polish fraud. Ivanovic > Bellerin - an unfair comparison given Bellerin's age, but Ivanovic - despite his numerous faults - has easily been the best right sided full-back in the PL this season. Cahill = Mertesacker - they're both utterly useless in a high defensive block, but stick them in a deeper-lying system and they're two of the best block-tacklers around. Pretty even.Terry > Koscielny - Koscielny is the best central defender Arsenal have had since Campbell, but Terry is still the best defender in the league. Azpilicueta > Monreal - no debate even needed, Azpilicueta is the best one-on-one full-back in world football. Matic > Coquelin - Matic offers far more than Coquelin, who is unbelievably overratedFabregas > Cazorla - tight, as I personally think Santi is Arsenal's most effective player, but overall in an attacking sense Fabregas is more pivotal to our system than Cazorla is to Arsenal's.Oscar < Ramsey - he might not be having the best season, but neither is Oscar - but I think Ramsey gives Arsenal more in an attacking sense than Oscar does for us.Willian = Ozil - Ozil can be utterly magnificent in one game and anonymous in the next four. Willian is consistently good for us whilst rarely being outstanding. Hazard > Sanchez - very tight call, but Eden Hazard is the best player in the Premier League at the minute. Sanchez has dropped off after Christmas; Hazard has turned it on and been sensational for us. Remy = Giroud - two very different strikers but Remy, despite barely playing, has won us five points in 2015 alone with his goals vs City, Hull and Stoke. Giroud is a great target man and technically he is criminally underrated. I love the way he is a threat in the air and on the deck - but right now, whilst he is scoring goals, his overall contribution to the team doesn't match the contribution of Remy. Both have their strengths, so I'd call this a tie. SubsCech > Szczęsny - no comment even necessary. Luis > Gibbs - as above.Zouma = Gabriel - an unfair comparison, however, given the age gap, but whenever Zouma has played, he's been brilliant. Gabriel is relatively unproven at this level so I don't think it's far to pass judgement.Ramires > Flamini - I like Flamini, he has a calming influence like Mikel, but Ramires is undoubtedly better, and more versatile.Cuadrado < Rosicky - Cuadrado will come good, but I've always rated Rosicky. Whenever he plays for Arsenal, despite him being about 70 years old, he makes things happen. Cuadrado isn't having that impact. Drogba < Welbeck - I love Didier and think he has a great ability to hold the ball up, but whatever pace he had is now non-extant and Welbeck, conversely, is a fantastic impact player. Costa > Walcott - Walcott has been borderline useless since coming back from injury. Costa, when fit, is one of Europe's top strikers. No comparison. This is entirely subjective and based on my opinion of how much each player offers to each respective team. It is quite clear from the individual comparison that we're far superior in terms of both our starting XI and our strength in depth. Compare the teams through each unit, also, if you will. In terms of defensively and our goalkeepers, we are streets ahead of Arsenal's options. It is tighter between the midfielders, but I'd choose Matic-Fabregas-Willian-Hazard-Ramires as a starting five over Coquelin-Cazorla-Ramsey-Ozil-Sanchez any day of the week. I rate Welbeck and Giroud but the two don't offer as much as Remy and Costa as a pairing. Arsenal are having a good season by their standards, but I feel you are seriously over-rating their squad. United, City and arguably even Tottenham have stronger squads. Arsenal have possibly the third best starting XI, but when you start looking at squad depth, what we and City have blows them out of the water. Their position is entirely dependent on how poor City's defence of the title is. I wouldn't even be surprised if City drew at Palace tonight, although, as it is a must-win game for them, they will probably just about scrape a victory. As for the title race - mathematically we need 16 points to seal the title, as we have 70 points:City's maximum total - 85Arsenal's maximum total - 84United's maximum total - 83That means, from our remaining eight games, that four wins (12) and four draws (4); or five wins (15) and a draw (1) with two losses; or simply six wins (18) and whatever else; wins us the league. And that is entirely dependant on those teams not taking points off each other. I can see United getting a draw in the Manchester derby next week, whilst Arsenal have to play United. Throw in the fact that City also have to go to Tottenham, who'll still be right in the 4th/5th place battle at that point, and that United and Arsenal have to face us, too, those teams will definitely not pick up maximum points. It might even transpire that four wins alone might be enough for us. To throw it away from here would be the biggest capitulation in Premier League title history. I have faith in Mourinho and the players that we will do it. It isn't over, not by a long shot, but we've been fantastic all season and we are the only side that deserves the league crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 How so? Compare the two squads from Saturday's matches.Starting XICourtois > OspinaIvanovic > BellerinCahill = MertesackerTerry > KoscielnyAzpilicueta > MonerealMatic > ConquelinFabregas > CazorlaOscar < RamseyWillian = OzilHazard > SanchezRemy = GiroudSubsCech > SzczęsnyLuis > GibbsZouma = Gabriel (an unfair comparison, however)Ramires > FlaminiCuadrado < RosickyDrogba < WelbeckCosta > WalcottThis is entirely subjective and based on my opinion of how much each player offers to each respective team. It is quite clear from the individual comparison that we're far superior in terms of both our starting XI and our strength in depth. Compare the teams through each unit, also, if you will. In terms of defensively and our goalkeepers, we are streets ahead of Arsenal's options. It is tighter between the midfielders, but I'd choose Matic-Fabregas-Willian-Hazard-Ramires as a starting five over Coquelin-Cazorla-Ramsey-Ozil-Sanchez any day of the week. I rate Welbeck and Giroud but the two don't offer as much as Remy and Costa as a pairing. Arsenal are having a good season by their standards, but I feel you are seriously over-rating their squad. United, City and arguably even Tottenham have stronger squads. Arsenal have possibly the third best starting XI, but when you start looking at squad depth, what we and City have blows them out of the water. Their position is entirely dependent on how poor City's defence of the title is. I wouldn't even be surprised if City drew at Palace tonight, although, as it is a must-win game for them, they will probably just about scrape a victory. Ozil is better than Willian but yeah, Chelsea is definitely better. The form has not been good in terms of performances in 2015, but let's not lose our grip on reality. Their options in the '3' are only superior.Chelsea will win the league, no doubt it. And it's 'deserved', a season consists of two halves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Last year we won the Big Teams league, but lost in the Other Teams league. This year we haven't been great against the top sides (though that can be amended by going unbeaten against Arsenal, United and Liverpool) but we've been terrific against the rest. Unlike La Liga, which is won by the victors of Barcelona-Real Madrid's two matches, the Premier League is won by the best team over 38 matches. Over the first 30, we've been the best team by a fucking mile. We have to win the league from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 This is from the comments section from The Guardian. Think the blokes pretty much nailed it especially about Oscar. How can a kid go so backwards in a couple of seasons. Oscar is afraid to express himself and has completely lost his confidence. I am going to be massively pissed off if De Bruyne joins Man City and does well. As for Cuadrado he makes Shaun Wright Philips look like Luis Figo.Kasperasky 4h ago89I've rarely seen a player as limited and average as that of Willian and Oscar starting this regularly for Chelsea, a team that has shifted Mata, Bryune, Schrulle and Salah to fit these players in. Intially there was this narrative that Oscar and Willian put in a defensive shift and run around a lot more than the likes of Mata and co. That seems such an English national team mentality!Having watched qutie a few Chelsea games, I feel like the brilliance of Hazard completely overshadows the utter gash that's Oscar and Willian. What's the fucking point of Oscar? He neither defends, creates, scores or intercepts. What he does well is a lot of pressing. Fair enough. But what happens if you press a team, get the ball off them, and can't create anything from it? I presume you pass it to Fabregas, and he has the responsibility of finding Costa or Hazard. So, technically, out of 6 players in your team, only 3 can create or score goals. The other 3 are there to run around or defend. It's not shocking that Chelsea have underperformed in Europe and scraping past teams in last couple of months to the finishing line.There were so many articles written about Mourinho intelligently addressed gaping holes in their squad by buying the likes of Fabregas, but looks like there are a lot more holes to be addressed that are just being papered over by the likes of Fabregas. I suggest a few youth players to be given their due chance next season - Baker, Ake and so, and not spunk money on another limited player and then sell/loan them to some other team.This might seem too harsh, but it is an indictment of how poor this league is that a team as limited as Chelsea, is currently coasting towards a title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Last year we won the Big Teams league, but lost in the Other Teams league. This year we haven't been great against the top sides (though that can be amended by going unbeaten against Arsenal, United and Liverpool) but we've been terrific against the rest. Unlike La Liga, which is won by the victors of Barcelona-Real Madrid's two matches, the Premier League is won by the best team over 38 matches. Over the first 30, we've been the best team by a fucking mile. We have to win the league from here. It is going to be a head to head on team form imo. But we have a big lead. This is truly where a good manager comes in that gets the wins/instills form. Go Mou! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 CHELSEA- 2014/15 CHAMPION. Time to celeberate boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishBlue 426 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Nice result for us. We are not Champions yet though, we have to look out for Arsenal now and beat them away to be sure. But what a result for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Wow, this has to be my favourite season in Premier League history. Everything is absolutely perfect for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hopefully.had arsenal can start a bad run..and us not.be weird seeing them 2nd if ends that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 5 wins and a draw.Just the 5 wins then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 So 15/24?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Just the 5 wins then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 This league is too easy. Almost there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazLaughlan 55 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Would be complete disaster to throw this away now, we have to do the business the next 3 games and tuck it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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