Strike 7,530 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Lampard, Cole, Eto'o leaving would give Chelsea 24million in savings. Even if one of them (Lampard) stays, it's not much of a problem as they'll only stay on a reduced contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I take the WAGNH article with a pinch of salt considering there are a lot of assumptions like Hazard being on £185k a week which is absolute rubbish, or the average CFC employee being on £35k a week, and the fact that a lot of our new sponsorships and deals haven't been included.Yeah, but the overall sum of all the wages is verified (176.6m). Of course there are assumptions as no one knows the exact values except for the club, but I'd say that WAGNH would be the closest because they are the only ones who follow the financial issues of the club this closely.And how can so many people tell that Hazard is not on 185K? This not aimed at you Skip because I've seen A LOT of people being adamant about it. I mean I find it unlikely but unless you know him personally or have the exact number from the club how can you be so sure that it's not true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 And how can so many people tell that Hazard is not on 185K? This not aimed at you Skip because I've seen A LOT of people being adamant about it. I mean I find it unlikely but unless you know him personally or have the exact number from the club how can you be so sure that it's not true?Yeah Eden told me the other day . On a serious note though... Because of the whole Hazard transfer saga. After the transfer was concluded British media tried to make it look like Eden moved to us because we offered more money in terms of wages when that wasn't the truth - during the saga it was widely reported that us and United and City all offered him similar wages, and during that time a lot reliable Belgian and French media both reported the figure to be around 110-120k (can't remember the exact number but it was around that). Of course when Hazard chose us the wages suddenly increased to £185k. French and Belgian media still reported the same number as mentioned before but some British papers decided to go with the 'Hazard got his head turned by money' story, especially the DM, which is where WAGNH got their number from. The above is exactly why many don't believe the figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yeah, but the overall sum of all the wages is verified (176.6m). Of course there are assumptions as no one knows the exact values except for the club, but I'd say that WAGNH would be the closest because they are the only ones who follow the financial issues of the club this closely.And how can so many people tell that Hazard is not on 185K? This not aimed at you Skip because I've seen A LOT of people being adamant about it. I mean I find it unlikely but unless you know him personally or have the exact number from the club how can you be so sure that it's not true?What Skipper said. Also I remember clearly that the English media actually went a bit further and were spitting out numbers like 200k or even 250k and then wrote and entire article on how he was going to be the top earner of the PL.Just so it could fit with the image of Hazard being a mercenary and only choosing Chelsea because of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yeah Eden told me the other day . On a serious note though... Because of the whole Hazard transfer saga. After the transfer was concluded British media tried to make it look like Eden moved to us because we offered more money in terms of wages when that wasn't the truth - during the saga it was widely reported that us and United and City all offered him similar wages, and during that time a lot reliable Belgian and French media both reported the figure to be around 110-120k (can't remember the exact number but it was around that).Of course when Hazard chose us the wages suddenly increased to £185k. French and Belgian media still reported the same number as mentioned before but some British papers decided to go with the 'Hazard got his head turned by money' story, especially the DM, which is where WAGNH got their number from.The above is exactly why many don't believe the figure.What Skipper said. Also I remember clearly that the English media actually went a bit further and were spitting out numbers like 200k or even 250k and then wrote and entire article on how he was going to be the top earner of the PL.Just so it could fit with the image of Hazard being a mercenary and only choosing Chelsea because of money.Tbh, I didn't follow the Hazard transfer too closely because it was one of those that dragged on forever and got about 300 pages before he even signed so I generally stayed out of the topic. Like I sad, I too find it unlikely, but I still don't think that you can completely rule it out because he was the most sought after player in the market at the time and we could have offered a huge contract to rule him here. Nothing wrong with that, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 According to some reliable belgian newspapers eden is earning 140k/ week , thats nowhere near that 185k pounds people are saying and by my knowledge he didnt sign a new contract since arriving here.Kompany is the best earning belgian in the epl with 155k/week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 i read in an article that FFP allows a club to have a loss of 37.5mil pounds over the 2 seasons of 2011-12 and 2012-13 but as well as 2011-12, 2012-13 and 2013-14.with us losing 49.4mil last season and a profit of 1.4mil in the CL winning season, it takes our total to -48mil pounds. subtracting about 15mil from that which was spent on academy, its still -33mil and we have a leeway of only -4mil odd this season. compared to last season where we spent about 63.5mil pounds, this year we have so far spent 56 mil pounds (willian+etoo, mvg, schurlle). but add to that the transfer deal of atsu, cuevas, matic and minus the deal of kdb, we almost get the same figure as the last year. the CL money and the PL money, coupled with the kit deal and the new TV rights would probably bring the number down from 49mil but not sure if its good enough to have us break even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 i read in an article that FFP allows a club to have a loss of 37.5mil pounds over the 2 seasons of 2011-12 and 2012-13 but as well as 2011-12, 2012-13 and 2013-14.with us losing 49.4mil last season and a profit of 1.4mil in the CL winning season, it takes our total to -48mil pounds. subtracting about 15mil from that which was spent on academy, its still -33mil and we have a leeway of only -4mil odd this season. compared to last season where we spent about 63.5mil pounds, this year we have so far spent 56 mil pounds (willian+etoo, mvg, schurlle). but add to that the transfer deal of atsu, cuevas, matic and minus the deal of kdb, we almost get the same figure as the last year. the CL money and the PL money, coupled with the kit deal and the new TV rights would probably bring the number down from 49mil but not sure if its good enough to have us break even. Probably not breaking even but there are a lot of things that wasn't included in that report. If we spend wisely this January and in the summer the number will definitely improve - the new sponsorship deals, the new TV rights deal, hopefully some decent CL money if we reach like the quarter finals or semis and PL money... We're fine. Don't forget we also have a huge asset in Mata (probably around £30m in itself) as well in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Probably not breaking even but there are a lot of things that wasn't included in that report. If we spend wisely this January and in the summer the number will definitely improve - the new sponsorship deals, the new TV rights deal, hopefully some decent CL money if we reach like the quarter finals or semis and PL money...We're fine. Don't forget we also have a huge asset in Mata (probably around £30m in itself) as well in the summer.And we could sell Lukaku, Moses, Marin for 15-20 million pounds.Courtois could be sold for a good amount of money or our new keeper wich would be a bargain.Traore will a be a good player for us that we bought for peanuts.Without forgetting all the good young players that maybe not good enough for us but still be sold for decent money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3623841/title/chelsea-signs-with-coralanother sponsorship and seeing how betting is big in Europe, especially England, it must yet another profitable one.We're just fine financially... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3623841/title/chelsea-signs-with-coralanother sponsorship and seeing how betting is big in Europe, especially England, it must yet another profitable one.We're just fine financially...let´s Coral, then. what´s your scoop on the weekend game ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Dont worry we can always sell world class Torres for 50mio and make profit of 600k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Kevin de Bruyne to Wolfsburg: What it means for Chelsea's finances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/1/24/5335580/juan-mata-transfer-manchester-united-chelsea-financesSelling Mata and De Bruyne gave the club a profit of around £34m for the ongoing financial year. Their replacements Matic and Salah did cost a large amount of money but their fees will be amortised for the next five and a half years so no matter what the January window will still end up as a huge financial success for the club. Also, with both the new broadcasting deal and the upgraded adidas contract kicking in this year (£35m extra according to WAGNH) the club should be in a very good position to comply with the FFP rules, might even post a healthy profit this year depending on how well we do in various competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Threads like these always become so fun to read. Where average joes get into financial discussions about our club.As if we dont have more than enough people with more than enough experience and knowledge to know what is going on and how our finances are looking.Plus no one of us really know what goes on behind the scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Threads like these always become so fun to read. Where average joes get into financial discussions about our club.As if we dont have more than enough people with more than enough experience and knowledge to know what is going on and how our finances are looking.Plus no one of us really know what goes on behind the scene.Well, leave us average joes to discuss it then. You don't have to open the thread you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,599 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Comment: Juan Mata £37m move to Manchester United shows that even Europe's richest clubs must accept the new FFP ruleshttp://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/comment-juan-mata-37m-move-to-manchester-united-shows-that-even-europes-richest-clubs-must-accept-the-new-ffp-rules-9086243.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle 77 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Have been very happy and surprised we have taken FFP so seriously.Thought it might be the case when we started stockpiling young talent before any rules were enforced. Not only were we hoping for a Barcelona style system where most first eleven come from the youth system but that we can also start selling at a profit.Speaking of selling when have we done that? Mata, Sturridge, KDB all indicate we are trying to be accountable. This was enforced when we complained about City. It was clear that we were upset that while they haven't been giving a stuff we have been strict about our policies.Finally we have kept our wages stable and expect the same once Cole, Torres and Eto are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caeruleus 1,148 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 It doesn't mata, 'kaz we are the best english club and 4th club in the world - by IFFHS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 It doesn't mata, 'kaz we are the best english club and 4th club in the world - by IFFHS.Why is there a picture of Justin Bieber on the back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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