Sovieticus 743 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Nope. We are likely to get Costa and Sovieticus as well. That would be so awesome.. Nah, I'm too good for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Nah, I'm too good for this.But worse than Torres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 But worse than Torres. Don't want to derail the thread but everyone is better than Torres, well maybe except you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Don't want to derail the thread but everyone is better than Torres, well maybe except you HOW DARE YOU?! BAN! BAN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 HOW DARE YOU?! BAN! BAN!! Oh no! Please no, kind sir. Will do anything, just don't ban me pls. *bends over* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 If I have to pick between Costa+Lukaku or Costa+Mandzukic, I would pick Lukaku anyday. I feel scoring for Mandzukic at Bayern isnt that dificult with all their AMs playing fantastic. The other story is CL and big games where Mandzukic never realy impressed me.. also how will he score here in pL with stronger defences and less support, i dunno. On other hand, Lukaku is proven in Pl and much younger, would be worth a shot at least until january and then sell/loan him and get another striker if things wont work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 He should, considering he is second choice at his current club and likely to remain so while Peppito wanks over a false 9 setup.Doesn't make sense in my opinion, as he will be the second choice too in here behind Costa. Isn't it better for him to go to other clubs as a first choice striker? There are a lot of clubs who could offer that along with CL football and decent wages. It would be strange if he choose us instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Doesn't make sense in my opinion, as he will be the second choice too in here behind Costa. Isn't it better for him to go to other clubs as a first choice striker? There are a lot of clubs who could offer that along with CL football and decent wages. It would be strange if he choose us instead.like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 like?Arsenal, Atletico, Dortmund, Roma, Napoli, some Russian clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Arsenal, Atletico, Dortmund, Roma, Napoli, some Russian clubsarsenal - never going to win ANYTHING. plus wages not as good as ours.bvb - doubt bayern will sell them. napoli - he will still be no.2 behind a 40mil higuain.russian clubs - so basically you think he would want to semi-retire from football rather than play for chelsea and be in the elite pool. ATM and roma are good options. but we are a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 arsenal - never going to win ANYTHING. plus wages not as good as ours.bvb - doubt bayern will sell them. napoli - he will still be no.2 behind a 40mil higuain.russian clubs - so basically you think he would want to semi-retire from football rather than play for chelsea and be in the elite pool. ATM and roma are good options. but we are a better option. Arsenal - we all know that, Giroud's rumour, wage exception -> OzilDortmund - agree, but it could happen if he force it, Dortmund have no strikerNapoli - fair point, I forgot that FSW has left behind 4-4-2 formationRussian Clubs - CL football, sky high transfer fees, very decent wage -> Hulk, Witsel, Willian, Eto'oHulk and Witsel still got a call up for their country despite playing in Russia, decent wage, decent bonus, CL football, Beer, AVB, what else you don't like except the artificial pitch, weather and riot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Arsenal - we all know that, Giroud's rumour, wage exception -> OzilDortmund - agree, but it could happen if he force it, Dortmund have no strikerNapoli - fair point, I forgot that FSW has left behind 4-4-2 formationRussian Clubs - CL football, sky high transfer fees, very decent wage -> Hulk, Witsel, Willian, Eto'oHulk and Witsel still got a call up for their country despite playing in Russia, decent wage, decent bonus, CL football, Beer, AVB, what else you don't like except the artificial pitch, weather and riot?But Chelsea!!! I'd rather be second choice on a top 5 team, than first choice on a top team barely top 20. He'll get tons of playing time with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 But Chelsea!!! I'd rather be second choice on a top 5 team, than first choice on a top team barely top 20. He'll get tons of playing time with us.If he is ready for second choice, I bet he will stay at Bayern. Playing time? Not much, if you have Costa around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,582 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 According to Martin Lipton #CFC want Mandzukic, Luiz is gone. Deal time.Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Arsenal - we all know that, Giroud's rumour, wage exception -> OzilDortmund - agree, but it could happen if he force it, Dortmund have no strikerNapoli - fair point, I forgot that FSW has left behind 4-4-2 formationRussian Clubs - CL football, sky high transfer fees, very decent wage -> Hulk, Witsel, Willian, Eto'oHulk and Witsel still got a call up for their country despite playing in Russia, decent wage, decent bonus, CL football, Beer, AVB, what else you don't like except the artificial pitch, weather and riot?so you think a player would want to play in a russian league (i would like u to name other WC players other than witsel and hulk in the russian league, if they can be said to be WC) rather than coming to chelsea and fighting for titles for the foreseeable future. well i think no player in his right mind would do that. if mandzukic actually chooses russian league, then good riddance that we dint get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 If he is ready for second choice, I bet he will stay at Bayern. Playing time? Not much, if you have Costa around.Costa can't play 90 minutes every game, prevent injury, etc. Also, we could play with 2 strikers?so you think a player would want to play in a russian league (i would like u to name other WC players other than witsel and hulk in the russian league, if they can be said to be WC) rather than coming to chelsea and fighting for titles for the foreseeable future. well i think no player in his right mind would do that. if mandzukic actually chooses russian league, then good riddance that we dint get him. Exactly. Witsel is DYING to leave lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,517 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I would be surprised if Mourinho ended up buying both Costa and Mandzukic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 so you think a player would want to play in a russian league (i would like u to name other WC players other than witsel and hulk in the russian league, if they can be said to be WC) rather than coming to chelsea and fighting for titles for the foreseeable future. well i think no player in his right mind would do that. if mandzukic actually chooses russian league, then good riddance that we dint get him. Money does matter, sir. I said it doesn't make sense for him to come to us if we have signed Costa. How come you think it is a better situation if you will warm the bench most of the time than playing in Russia with more money and CL?Also Mandzukic is not in a condition with tight strikers competition for Croatia. Olic soon will retired. With his age and ability he will be automatically chosen, wherever he plays, as long as he play regularly.Costa can't play 90 minutes every game, prevent injury, etc. Also, we could play with 2 strikers?But most of the time he will warm the bench, I don't think he will be happy with that. Yes, unless Jose have a plan to play 2 strikers in front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Money does matter, sir. I said it doesn't make sense for him to come to us if we have signed Costa. How come you think it is a better situation if you will warm the bench most of the time than playing in Russia with more money and CL?Also Mandzukic is not in a condition with tight strikers competition for Croatia. Olic soon will retired. With his age and ability he will be automatically chosen, wherever he plays, as long as he play regularly.what? money does matter but so does football!!!!!! you go and play in russia when a club is offering u foolish and insane money like they did to etoo!!! the last time i checked, anzhi is not doing that anymore. players like witsel are shouting to leave and hulk gets rumored every other week. he is not going to warm our bench. we play 60 matches in a season in PL. look at dzeko. he was city's 3rd striker. he ended up finishing as one of the most important player. costa will hit a rocky patch or mario may hit a purple patch. plus in PL about 15 matches would be a 0-0/1-1 till 60th minute, with an important sub coming on. and this situation is WAY BETTER than the one at bayern. in bayern he will be 2nd striker but if pep wants to change the game (which wont happen much with bayern anyways), then it will be one of the few hunderd WC players at his disposal and not mario who was anyways overlooked many times this season in place of a false 9. also we are talking about mario mandzukic. the difference between mandzukic and costa is not much (infact people were still unsure who would be a better buy at the mid-season point). even if u take costa to be the better player, the difference in their class is NOT that much that it would precede form. this "bench warmer" thing is a poor argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 what? money does matter but so does football!!!!!! you go and play in russia when a club is offering u foolish and insane money like they did to etoo!!! the last time i checked, anzhi is not doing that anymore. players like witsel are shouting to leave and hulk gets rumored every other week.Okay, I think we should leave that Russian clubs and money topic for now. I said that they are just possible destinations, not that they are really interested in Mandzukic anyways. As my point is that it is better playing as a first choice in smaller CL clubs rather than on the bench in a top clubs.he is not going to warm our bench. we play 60 matches in a season in PL. look at dzeko. he was city's 3rd striker. he ended up finishing as one of the most important player. costa will hit a rocky patch or mario may hit a purple patch. plus in PL about 15 matches would be a 0-0/1-1 till 60th minute, with an important sub coming on. and this situation is WAY BETTER than the one at bayern. in bayern he will be 2nd striker but if pep wants to change the game (which wont happen much with bayern anyways), then it will be one of the few hunderd WC players at his disposal and not mario who was anyways overlooked many times this season in place of a false 9. Yeah, but City play with 2 strikers in front, and we play with 1 striker, that is a huge difference. No way he would be happy to play mostly as a sub. As I said earlier if Mandzukic ready to play as a second choice, I bet he would stay at Bayern, but my main point is he will not. Surely he will choose a club that can guarantee the first choice as well as CL football, like Arsenal, Atletico, Roma, Dortmund, etc. And with Diego Costa looks like a done deal (I am sure Jose convinced him to come as a first choice striker), I don't think Chelsea will be in top of Mandzukic's list.also we are talking about mario mandzukic. the difference between mandzukic and costa is not much (infact people were still unsure who would be a better buy at the mid-season point). even if u take costa to be the better player, the difference in their class is NOT that much that it would precede form. this "bench warmer" thing is a poor argument. If you think they are not that much different, why we should have both when we only play with 1 striker? Young player like Lukaku will be much better as a sub or backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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