Closed Chelsea 1-2 Basel

[English Freak 456]

This!I was so sure that this summer we would finally add a world class midfielder like moutinho,witsel or De Rossi to the team but nope,jose is happy with essien and 35 year's old lampard who nowadays offers us absolutely nothing except some goals here and there.

Yeh, could of spent that 30 million on a top-class central midfielder. But for some reason, we just had to buy Willian.

Our situation is like what Zidane said when Madrid sold Makelele..'why add another player of gold paint when your taking away the engine'.

Unfortunately at Chelsea, our midfield engine isn't good enough.

[Special Juan 27,429]

Perfect.

We should be fortunate to get slapped in the face so early in the season.

Not even gona read this thread to avoid the usual bullshit.

Well if it's bullshit then how about adding your own take so we can all dissect what bullshit you post.

Two can play that game.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Please elaborate. What positives did you take from this game?

Well Oscar had a great game. He was involved in every thing, scored a great goal and almost scored an absolute stunner. Could have had a couple of assists as well if it weren't for some bad finishing. I also thought Willian did very well for his first game with the club. Looked threatening on that right wing and like he was always favorite to beat his man. Tried to put in a few crosses which is something we usually lack, but could have used Azpi instead of Iva behind him for the overlap. Eto'o was better than the Everton game. His movement was very good, especially in the first half, he's just missing that final touch, atm. I think Jose maybe, should have started with two strikers, because Eto'o moves very well but he isn't a huge threat in the box.

It was decent performance by the boys, but the inexperience of our key players in finishing the game off has cost us again. Tbf, Basel played an incredible game, both tactically and individually, they were brilliant and Salah proved why he won the award for best youngster in Africa. But it's a game of very small margins. At 1-0 Hazard, one-on-one with the keeper, if he hits the back of the net like he should instead of finding row-z, we would have won 2/3-0 and everyone here would be saying that it was a good performance and a job well done.

[npaul2811 1]

I think we need a power striker, someone like Rooney who could be a powerhouse like Drogba and create a sense of caution in the oppposing defence line. That's the only thing we lack, Hazard needs to wake up, but we all know what happens when he does. i hope we solve the striker issue soon, nobody lose faith in Mou!!

[MHL 47 378]

Serious question and forgetting tactically about why we performed badly.

Where was the drive and leadership throughout the second-half. You didn't need to be a tactical genius to see that the 1-0 lead was fragile and you would have expected to see some rallying together, communication and an organiser. A job John Terry has performed admirably for 10 seasons.

I saw nobody doing that, in my experience you can play badly/poorly, but as long as you have a leader on the pitch allied with quality footballers you can get away with most poor performances'. Lacked on field leadership and organisation last night, as well as width.

[Special Juan 27,429]

Things could of been so different had Hazard finished his left foot chance and Oscar's shot goes in off the bar, it's fine margins people. Whilst it wasn't the best performance I am sure we can get it right but Jose must fined his best 11 and not worry about keeping players who don't start we need a consistent starting 11 and some telepathy between players and we will be back on track.

Let's start against Fulham please.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Serious question and forgetting tactically about why we performed badly.

Where was the drive and leadership throughout the second-half. You didn't need to be a tactical genius to see that the 1-0 lead was fragile and you would have expected to see some rallying together, communication and an organiser. A job John Terry has performed admirably for 10 seasons.

I saw nobody doing that, in my experience you can play badly/poorly, but as long as you have a leader on the pitch allied with quality footballers you can get away with most poor performances'. Lacked on field leadership and organisation last night, as well as width.

Were we really benefitting much from JT's leadership on Saturday?

Right now we're building a team, and with that we're waiting for leaders to emerge. I think as soon as the team starts to gel then these leaders will emerge, although we desperately need one in the double pivot. Maybe rather than loaning out Nat Chalobah we could actually give him a shot.

[chrismada9 1,948]

Well guys, this is the reason why signing a "quality" striker and a CDM was paramount for us in the summer... we didn't do that, and look at the results.

Yes we have Eto'o, but you take one look at how he played tonight and it's not quality.. age has caught up to him.. he's not the player he once was, and he was the only available option because we weren't ruthless enough to sign either Cavani or Falcao, and Moyes didn't let us have Rooney.

And as for Torres... :banghead:

Every season that passes, we just get worse and worse.. I hope Mourinho puts things right before this club is further damaged..

..I still trust him!

KTBFFH

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Well guys, this is the reason why signing a "quality" striker and a CDM was paramount for us in the summer... we didn't do that, and look at the results.

Yes we have Eto'o, but you take one look at how he played tonight and it's not quality.. age has caught up to him.. he's not the player he once was, and he was the only available option because we weren't ruthless enough to sign either Cavani or Falcao, and Moyes didn't let us have Rooney.

And as for Torres... :banghead:

Every season that passes, we just get worse and worse.. I hope Mourinho puts things right before this club is further damaged..

..I still trust him!

KTBFFH

He don't put it right he get sacked, we know how it work around here.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

I'm Still Shocked...

[edetarod 2,155]

i don't see what MvG offers that Josh doesn't

our transfer policy is a farce

[The only place to be 11,313]

i don't see what MvG offers that Josh doesn't

our transfer policy is a farce

Strength in the tackle, a right foot, a physical presence in midfield and based on their short careers a much greater goal threat.

Put simply, bottle.

[didierforever 7,349]

mvg offers more goal threat than josh!!!!! wow, people are on a high here...

[The only place to be 11,313]

mvg offers more goal threat than josh!!!!! wow, people are on a high here...

I wrote that based on their short careers that Van Ginkel offers a greater goal threat. I stand by that.

Can you explain why that must make me on a high?

[Drogzola 283]

I think we all agree continuity is whats needed now. Too many changes. He must stick with a certain spine for the side and lets build around that.

[Wimbledonblue 94]

We could of sign Khedira for £15m, De Rossi for £11m, Witsel for £30-£40m and a striker like Cavani/Falcao for £50m but eventually we miss out on them all and decided to sign MVK and Eto'o. Mean while Cavani and Falcao are scoring for fun atm. Sometime you really get what you paid for.

Is this worth it if your free striker scores 2 goals in 10 matches compared to a £50m striker who has scored 5 goals in 6 games and will probably get 15-20 goals by Feb next year?

This is what happen when you are being cheap. If we didn't sign Schurrle and Willian we would have got £48m left that we could use to sign Falcao/Cavani.

We brought a £50 million striker and look how that materialised. I agree about our weakness in the 'pivot' position (personally I think we should play Oscar alongside Mikel/Ramires in that role) but spending more and more money isn't the only solution.

I'm fed up of people complaining about our multiple weaknesses every time we lose a football match. We have more than enough pedigree in every position to be competing in every competition this year. It's just about finding the right balance and galvanising the team, and I'm confident Jose can do that.

We usually have a good start to the season and everything goes tits up in November. Perhaps we're having a blip earlier this year.

[didierforever 7,349]

I wrote that based on their short careers that Van Ginkel offers a greater goal threat. I stand by that.

Can you explain why that must make me on a high?

i have seen josh play for middlesborough, and for chelsea when he was 17. josh even at that age offered far more goal threat than mvg. mvg is more physical and a better cm for a pivot, but it seems so unfair on josh to say that he offers lesser goal threat than a player who must have put in about 10% of his passes in the forward direction, had a touch so bad in the last and only match that he could have been yellowed twice while trying to get the ball back.

does that explain it? to say mvg offers more goal threat than josh is criminal because mvg offers NO THREAT. he dint in any of the pre-season matches, or his 5 min sub performance or yesterday. meanwhile i remember josh controlling the tempo of one of his only games in pre-season and completely bossed in his short performance.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Well guys, this is the reason why signing a "quality" striker and a CDM was paramount for us in the summer... we didn't do that, and look at the results.

Yes we have Eto'o, but you take one look at how he played tonight and it's not quality.. age has caught up to him.. he's not the player he once was, and he was the only available option because we weren't ruthless enough to sign either Cavani or Falcao, and Moyes didn't let us have Rooney.

And as for Torres... :banghead:

Every season that passes, we just get worse and worse.. I hope Mourinho puts things right before this club is further damaged..

..I still trust him!

KTBFFH

Time for some drastic measures in he winter transfers.

Offloading Ba and gettin Jackson Martinez and maybe even a classy CM too.