Willian

[Milan 17,854]

Even though it might be bs, I wish it was true and even Mou was finally sick of this player who seems to shit in his pants everytime he is on the pitch.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

https://twitter.com/mattspiro/status/576300673530261504

Even though it might be bs, I wish it was true and even Mou was finally sick of this player who seems to shit in his pants everytime he is on the pitch.

Lol

Wish willian could be more ambitious with the ability he has

[stroey 2,525]

I have a lot of respect for him and admire him.
He's not a natural RW which many people forgets, he was a 10/LW at Shakthar.

But he put away his pride and converted himself into a hard working maniac on the right side, he sacrifices himself for the team.
Cech said this:''I never thought I would see anyone running more than Ramires, but then I saw Willian.''

He's like KDB, Mata, Schurrle, played out of position on the RW, but he is the only one who survived this.
Salah and KDB didn't get fair chances though.

I agree with many of you, I'd love him to take more risks if he keeps playing at the RW but we can't blame him that he doesn't have the skill-set of a traditional winger.

If you want to get the best out of him, attacking wise, he should play behind the striker as a 10. He's done this last season vs City + Stoke, and this season vs Everton and played very well. But Mou might need to drop Ivanovic if he does this, or play Ramires on the RW.

[termninja 5,290]

I would love to see him have a go as a n10 with Cuadrado on the right wing. Agree both with, Henrique and stroey. Willian simply isn't a player for our right wing.,but boy I've gotten bored of his jiggle left jiggle right, pass to the nearest player...

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I would love to see him have a go as a n10 with Cuadrado on the right wing. Agree both with, Henrique and stroey. Willian simply isn't a player for our right wing.,but boy I've gotten bored of his jiggle left jiggle right, pass to the nearest player...

Should happen, Oscar has clearly run out of steam and needs a holiday to refresh him or an otherwise extended period away from the team.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

Here's a question, whose the best hide and seek player in our team, Oscar or Willian?

*Hint, its a trick question*

[DYC. 7,542]

Here's a question, whose the best hide and seek player in our team, Oscar or Willian?

*Hint, its a trick question*

6 point lead, game in hand. Balance.

[Styles 9,790]

I have a lot of respect for him and admire him.

He's not a natural RW which many people forgets, he was a 10/LW at Shakthar.

But he put away his pride and converted himself into a hard working maniac on the right side, he sacrifices himself for the team.

Cech said this:''I never thought I would see anyone running more than Ramires, but then I saw Willian.''

He's like KDB, Mata, Schurrle, played out of position on the RW, but he is the only one who survived this.

Salah and KDB didn't get fair chances though.

I agree with many of you, I'd love him to take more risks if he keeps playing at the RW but we can't blame him that he doesn't have the skill-set of a traditional winger.

If you want to get the best out of him, attacking wise, he should play behind the striker as a 10. He's done this last season vs City + Stoke, and this season vs Everton and played very well. But Mou might need to drop Ivanovic if he does this, or play Ramires on the RW.

Willian has sacrificed his game and is doing what the manager wants...which is why he is in the team. Mourinho wants this.

So don't blame the player - blame the guy who has a RB playing as an auxiliary striker and a RW playing as a defender.

[WNDS 502]

Until Willian is given a proper run of games in one of his two 'natural' positions (LM/CAM) I'm going to refrain from passing judgement on him. He must have started only around 10 games for us in either position, whilst remaining a guaranteed starter at RM simply because he often prevents Ivanovic from being utterly exposed at RB. Everything about how he plays the RM role when in possession and attacking indicates that he has little clue what to do there (much like Azpi when he's 'attacking' from left full-back), and he's obviously not going to improve any time soon. We cannot get away with carrying two 'attacking players' (Oscar and Willian) who are frequently complete passengers when we try to.... well.... attack. Oscar is a particular disappointment, as he's failing to deliver despite already playing in his favoured position.

[Oscar 441]

Willian has sacrificed his game and is doing what the manager wants...which is why he is in the team. Mourinho wants this.

So don't blame the player - blame the guy who has a RB playing as an auxiliary striker and a RW playing as a defender.

The right side kept getting attacked all day.

And how is it that willian sacrificed his game, yet, Oscar didn't for what Jose wanted...

[Laugh1ngMan 393]

Until Willian is given a proper run of games in one of his two 'natural' positions (LM/CAM) I'm going to refrain from passing judgement on him. He must have started only around 10 games for us in either position, whilst remaining a guaranteed starter at RM simply because he often prevents Ivanovic from being utterly exposed at RB. Everything about how he plays the RM role when in possession and attacking indicates that he has little clue what to do there (much like Azpi when he's 'attacking' from left full-back), and he's obviously not going to improve any time soon. We cannot get away with carrying two 'attacking players' (Oscar and Willian) who are frequently complete passengers when we try to.... well.... attack. Oscar is a particular disappointment, as he's failing to deliver despite already playing in his favoured position.

It won't make a difference. He just doesn't do anything that can lead to an assist or goal.

He always goes for the easy pass

He never dribbles past an opponent

He doesnt make runs of the ball behind the opponents

And his killer instinct is non existent

How on earth do you ever gonna get assists/goals on a regular basis if you don't do any of that.

Also, it's time to get rid of the myth he needs to play on the right to cover for Iva. He provided very little cover for him today and in fact that right side has been exposed badly plenty of times already with him in the team. And it's not like he is actual any good defensively. Sure, he makes certain he runs back but that is about it.

The right side problem should be resolved by the rightback, the right centre back and the right pivot player, not a RW. We need at least one player there who actual wants to make tackles and win the ball on that side but neither Iva, Cahill or Cesc do that hence why opponents have so much joy running with the ball there

[WNDS 502]

It won't make a difference. He just doesn't do anything that can lead to an assist or goal.

He always goes for the easy pass

He never dribbles past an opponent

He doesnt make runs of the ball behind the opponents

And his killer instinct is non existent

How on earth do you ever gonna get assists/goals on a regular basis if you don't do any of that.

Also, it's time to get rid of the myth he needs to play on the right to cover for Iva. He provided very little cover for him today and in fact that right side has been exposed badly plenty of times already with him in the team. And it's not like he is actual any good defensively. Sure, he makes certain he runs back but that is about it.

The right side problem should be resolved by the rightback, the right centre back and the right pivot player, not a RW. We need at least one player there who actual wants to make tackles and win the ball on that side but neither Iva, Cahill or Cesc do that hence why opponents have so much joy running with the ball there

Willian undeniably lacks a killer instinct, and he's not going to develop one anytime soon (unfortunately) even IF he is played through the centre. Having said this, however, I find it rather strange that you appear to think that there is no genuine potential for improvement in his attacking performances if he's played in his natural positions. If he's playing through the centre or on the left (being a right-footer) he will have more opportunity to take shots from good positions, more opportunity to play quick passes, more opportunity to dribble infield etc.. Basically, he can be more involved in the play than he currently tends to be whilst also being given the chance to play his game in a way that should come more naturally to him. No doubt he will continue to make (more than) his fair share of poor decisions when in the final third, but he will also be in positions to allow the good decisions/key actions he IS capable of making to pay off in a meaningful way much more frequently.

Look at De Bruyne's time with us; Mourinho insisted upon playing him out of position on the right, wasn't impressed by his performances there, benched him (pissing the player off), and then sold him. Now De Bruyne is playing in his natural CAM position at Wolfsburg and is putting in magnificent performances for them on a consistent basis. Willian will almost certainly NOT play as well as De Bruyne is currently doing at Wolfsburg in the no.10 role, but he could end up being an 'in-house' improvement over Oscar in that position for us; until he's given a run of games there, we can't know. It's ridiculous to pass judgment upon players who have rarely been given a chance to prove their full worth (or lack thereof) in their proper position(s).

Your claim that Willian isn't actually any good defensively really doesn't hold up either; defending is about far more than merely making tackles, particularly when the player in question is an attacking player. Whilst he may not be great at tackling, Willian is excellent at pressing from the front, tracking off-the-ball runs of opponents, and blocking passing lanes. He often does an enormous amount of defensive work for the team on the right side of the pitch, and the fact that it is still so vulnerable despite his efforts says far more about Ivanovic's current defensive inadequacies than it does about Willian's.

[Laugh1ngMan 393]

Willian undeniably lacks a killer instinct, and he's not going to develop one anytime soon (unfortunately) even IF he is played through the centre. Having said this, however, I find it rather strange that you appear to think that there is no genuine potential for improvement in his attacking performances if he's played in his natural positions. If he's playing through the centre or on the left (being a right-footer) he will have more opportunity to take shots from good positions, more opportunity to play quick passes, more opportunity to dribble infield etc.. Basically, he can be more involved in the play than he currently tends to be whilst also being given the chance to play his game in a way that should come more naturally to him. No doubt he will continue to make (more than) his fair share of poor decisions when in the final third, but he will also be in positions to allow the good decisions/key actions he IS capable of making to pay off in a meaningful way much more frequently.

Look at De Bruyne's time with us; Mourinho insisted upon playing him out of position on the right, wasn't impressed by his performances there, benched him (pissing the player off), and then sold him. Now De Bruyne is playing in his natural CAM position at Wolfsburg and is putting in magnificent performances for them on a consistent basis. Willian will almost certainly NOT play as well as De Bruyne is currently doing at Wolfsburg in the no.10 role, but he could end up being an 'in-house' improvement over Oscar in that position for us; until he's given a run of games there, we can't know. It's ridiculous to pass judgment upon players who have rarely been given a chance to prove their full worth (or lack thereof) in their proper position(s).

Your claim that Willian isn't actually any good defensively really doesn't hold up either; defending is about far more than merely making tackles, particularly when the player in question is an attacking player. Whilst he may not be great at tackling, Willian is excellent at pressing from the front, tracking off-the-ball runs of opponents, and blocking passing lanes. He often does an enormous amount of defensive work for the team on the right side of the pitch, and the fact that it is still so vulnerable despite his efforts says far more about Ivanovic's current defensive inadequacies than it does about Willian's.

I'm not denying he would get some more opportunities in the middle but he won't take nearly enough, it's just not in his nature which should be pretty clear after almost 2 season of very little end product with us and in his previous seasons at shaktar. He seems to have the potential but it is not coming out and probably never will

KDB performs better on the right than in the centre for the national team and he didn't have the same opportunities as Willian. Also there would be no discussion that he would produce more than Willain even if he was playing on the right.

And i really feel Willian is overrated defensively, he has high work rate but that is about it. There are numerous times where i see him mess up by not tracking runs etc. (like for the Danny Rose goal in the Tottenham game). And his higher work rate doesn't seem to have any substantial impact in stopping opponents from terrorrizing that side. I don't blame him for that or anything since that shouldn't be his main duty, but it has to stop being an excuse for why he plays there since it's not working anyway and the problems lie with other players

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

I am done with this 30 million fraud of a player, how the f does he keep starting every week?? His absolute shit going forward we did not pay 32 million for an extra rightback ffs. Seriously he needs to go in the summer I cant stand another season of Willian. Dont tell me you cant balance defence and attack, look at Robben and Ribery good going forward and defending too.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

I am done with this 30 million fraud of a player, how the f does he keep starting every week?? His absolute shit going forward we did not pay 32 million for an extra rightback ffs. Seriously he needs to go in the summer I cant stand another season of Willian. Dont tell me you cant balance defence and attack, look at Robben and Ribery good going forward and defending too.

Yes we did.

[LAB 1,030]

Cool as you like

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

Good assist yesterday.

[bethos1 802]

He had a run of 3-4 good games, now he's back to the same old Willian. Atm this is by far my least favourite player, I'm no fan of Ramires as well but atleast he does something useful most of the times.