MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I'm just glad he's not on silly wages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 To be honest If he doesnt improve in the final 3rd it might be wise to sell him and get most of our money back whilst he still has a decent value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I think FIFA gave him that award not me I was worried Never have I known such a hyped up player as Neymar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 To be honest If he doesnt improve in the final 3rd it might be wise to sell him and get most of our money back whilst he still has a decent valuePeople (scouts) actually watch games. No one will buy him for anything close to the amount we paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 People (scouts) actually watch games. No one will buy him for anything close to the amount we paid. Torres 50million Willian 3o miliion ,,,????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The thing about Willian tht pisses me off, is he covers up his deficiences in attack by defending so everyone ends up defendin his contribution, I would rather hv a weak, non defensive mata than Willian to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Torres 50million Willian 3o miliion ,,,?????Scouts of other clubs . I'm not going to dismiss Willian just yet. I will give him time, but he seems to lack genuine quality and talent. He is not the player we hoped he will be and in reality, we only bought him because Spurs were seemingly building something amazing. In hindsight, we shouldn't have bought him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Scouts of other clubs . I'm not going to dismiss Willian just yet. I will give him time, but he seems to lack genuine quality and talent. He is not the player we hoped he will be and in reality, we only bought him because Spurs were seemingly building something amazing. In hindsight, we shouldn't have bought him. I am willing to give him time Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I am willing to give him timeLets be honest his not good enough, this is the same mistake we did with Torres, we gave him too much time. I would rather we cut our losses early on when there is still value than keep him whilst his value depreciates. A quality player u can see even if he is in his first season ie Hazard, Oscar, Mata u could see they were quality players in their first season even if they werent at 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Lets be honest his not good enough, this is the same mistake we did with Torres, we gave him too much time. I would rather we cut our losses early on when there is still value than keep him whilst his value depreciates. A quality player u can see even if he is in his first season ie Hazard, Oscar, Mata u could see they were quality players in their first season even if they werent at 100%sorry dont see him in the the same way I see Torres ,, I do believe William will deliver Barbara and Mohammed Seif 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacika 188 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 IMO Moses in his first season with us was better than both of them.It's hard to say this,.but I agree with this... 38 mil euros and 22 mil euros and they can't even outshine Moses... Let's hope we'll win the league. Vybz Kartel and mediator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 IMO Moses in his first season with us was better than both of them.It's hard to say this,.but I agree with this... 38 mil euros and 22 mil euros and they can't even outshine Moses... Let's hope we'll win the league.Agree with u totally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 And Moses is homegrown btw.Should stay with us next season, he is a good squad player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Falcao/Cavani for £50m is too expensive, instead blow £59m on this guy and Schurrle+ Salah, going the Spurs way of quantity over quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 For that price and considering he is in his prime age (25), I would expect more from him. He puts good effort and I never expected many goals from him as he isnt goalscoring player, but I expected flair, good passing, assists and passes that lead to goals. So far, he did well in tracking, tackling, but it feels like we play without him in final third. Either he loses possesion or makes silly pass, dribble, cross. Dunno, but he will have to improve. Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! JDY 1,290 Posted March 16, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 16, 2014 Has been quiet since the cup game against City away, but excellent before that. Didn't realise players were judged solely on goals and assists. I guess Zidane wasn't as good as I thought considering he only managed over 5 assists in a season twice in his entire career, kellzfresh, Barbara, BlueLion. and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Willian was only ok when he was making cross-field passes. How many times did he venture into the opposition box? He and Torres in the starting line-up = Struggle and struggle to score goals. He looks like nothing special.And Moses was brilliant in the Europa league and had a decent first season. Certainly better than both Willian and Schurrle's first seasons. Both those players are nothing special and don't look Chelsea quality. Maybe bench players, but not starting XI quality. I hope to be proven wrong, but I doubt it. You don't need to watch a player play a 1000 games to know his true level. To be fair, our opponents in Europe last season were not that good of a team. I don't mean to disrespect but Sparta Prague, Steaua, Rubin and Basel are different than playing premier league teams. There are hardly any straight forward EPL games. Moses can barely get into liverpool's first team and they dont have that good of squad depth. Willian is a hardworker, and provides link up play and good defensive track backs, schurrle might be less talented with the ball but he seems to have an eye for a goal so I expect him to be used differently than our other AMs. Also lets not forget its their first season here in the most competitive and physical league in the world, we shouldn't be so quick to judge. Especially after a terrible game and a spell of bad form for many of our players, including oscar, willian, ramires, and hazard to an extent. To be honest, I was not too convinced with Schurrle either seeing the price tag but I think we as fans need to be patient with new players, they are also normal people who needs time to settle living in a new country, they are not just football playing robots.The criticism on Salah is ridiculous, he has played what? 60 mins of competitive football for us? how can anyone judge him so quickly? I admit I would've preferred we sign someone like griezmann, but as many people said, Salah was bought to provide back up only. Sir Mikel OBE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 To be fair, our opponents in Europe last season were not that good of a team. I don't mean to disrespect but Sparta Prague, Steaua, Rubin and Basel are different than playing premier league teams. There are hardly any straight forward EPL games. Moses can barely get into liverpool's first team and they dont have that good of squad depth. Willian is a hardworker, and provides link up play and good defensive track backs, schurrle might be less talented with the ball but he seems to have an eye for a goal so I expect him to be used differently than our other AMs. Also lets not forget its their first season here in the most competitive and physical league in the world, we shouldn't be so quick to judge. Especially after a terrible game and a spell of bad form for many of our players, including oscar, willian, ramires, and hazard to an extent. To be honest, I was not too convinced with Schurrle either seeing the price tag but I think we as fans need to be patient with new players, they are also normal people who needs time to settle living in a new country, they are not just football playing robots.The criticism on Salah is ridiculous, he has played what? 60 mins of competitive football for us? how can anyone judge him so quickly? I admit I would've preferred we sign someone like griezmann, but as many people said, Salah was bought to provide back up only. What was the justification for loaning Moses to Liverpool and buying a player like Schurrle for 18 million. It's stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 God, sheer stupidity to touch a player from behind when chris foy was going nuts. We were playing very well before that red, just sad that the game got ruined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Has been quiet since the cup game against City away, but excellent before that. Didn't realise players were judged solely on goals and assists. I guess Zidane wasn't as good as I thought considering he only managed over 5 assists in a season twice in his entire career,He's not being judged solely on his goals and assists, but on his attacking contribution to the team. No-one will fault his workrate but he just needs to offer more in the final third than cute little passes 3 feet away from Hazard and Oscar.The guy's transfer fee doesn't help either because it sets the expectations way too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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