🇧🇷 Willian

[Vesper 30,190]

Arse were insane to buy William Saliba for £27m and then instantly loan him right back

I would have just let him learn on the job

there is almost no way he could possible, even at 18yo, that he would be as bad as Sokratis, Luiz and Mustafi

he is already a BIG lad too, it isn't like he has to bulk up and get that much stronger (which he will anyway)

1.93m and built already like a brick wall

 

[tizerist 6]

Regarding selling Willian to Barcelona, until this transfer ban is over, we're in no position to trim our squad further, especially of experienced players. Forget the money, just for this season. Keeping hold of personnel has to be the priority for now.

[Nicco 927]

They paid 3 mil upfront for Saliba and rest after he comes in.

[SUNZ 155]

36 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Pulisic is 20 years and will only get better

there is no comparison in terms of who any rational person would take

Pulisic by 10,000 miles

Pulisic is also a stand-up person

Willian is a fucking pronger who is pure poison

 

26 minutes ago, Jason said:

You know the bar has been set really low for Willian when people are comparing him with a 20-year-old who's new to English football and needs time to adjust to the demands here. 

I can assure you that neither of you dislike Willian more than I do. He is an awful player that should been let go years ago and this will hopefully be his last season at the club.

But the reality is that currently Pulisic stinks even worse than Willian. His performances against Leicester and Sheffield Utd is as bad as it gets - Willian did nothing of note yesterday but that was still better than anything Pulisic has done so far.

[Vesper 30,190]

36 minutes ago, tizerist said:

Regarding selling Willian to Barcelona, until this transfer ban is over, we're in no position to trim our squad further, especially of experienced players. Forget the money, just for this season. Keeping hold of personnel has to be the priority for now.

Wrong year m8, I am talking about the summer of 2018, when Marina said no to £65m from Barca for him, and we were not under a transfer ban

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, SUNZ said:

I can assure you that neither of you dislike Willian more than I do. He is an awful player that should been let go years ago and this will hopefully be his last season at the club.

But the reality is that currently Pulisic stinks even worse than Willian. His performances against Leicester and Sheffield Utd is as bad as it gets - Willian did nothing of note yesterday but that was still better than anything Pulisic has done so far.

If you think that about Willian, then why compare him with Pulisic when no one was even talking about him? Why not just get straight to the point and say Willian was good because he did A, B, C etc? Why even compare? I don't even think anyone has said Pulisic has been great. He's showed glimpses but he hasn't been great yeah. But he's only 20, he joined a new team - a team that's undergoing transition - and has come to a new league. People are willing to give him to time to adapt and get better.

Seriously, if people are gonna come here and blow their trumpet about Willian - whether by comparing him to someone else or not - after one decent performance - one decent performance in a glut of inconsistent performances - then god help us all. 

[communicate 2,703]

6 hours ago, Jason said:

If you think that about Willian, then why compare him with Pulisic when no one was even talking about him? Why not just get straight to the point and say Willian was good because he did A, B, C etc? Why even compare? I don't even think anyone has said Pulisic has been great. He's showed glimpses but he hasn't been great yeah. But he's only 20, he joined a new team - a team that's undergoing transition - and has come to a new league. People are willing to give him to time to adapt and get better.

Seriously, if people are gonna come here and blow their trumpet about Willian - whether by comparing him to someone else or not - after one decent performance - one decent performance in a glut of inconsistent performances - then god help us all. 

The problem with Willian is people want him to be creator and scorer in final 3rd but we have seen enough of him  to say that he is not that. What he is good at is bringing the ball up from midfield. With him we play almost like 352 rather than 343. 

I don't want to compare him to Puli. I haven't watch enough of puli game to make enough judgment. But in our current setup and players Willian is very important especially if we want to get the best out of Mount. 

 

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, communicate said:

The problem with Willian is people want him to be creator and scorer in final 3rd but we have seen enough of him  to say that he is not that. What he is good at is bringing the ball up from midfield. With him we play almost like 352 rather than 343. 

I don't want to compare him to Puli. I haven't watch enough of puli game to make enough judgment. But in our current setup and players Willian is very important especially if we want to get the best out of Mount. 

It's a problem to expect a winger to contribute goals/assists and more importantly, perform consistently?

[communicate 2,703]

24 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's a problem to expect a winger to contribute goals/assists and more importantly, perform consistently?

The thing is he is more of a right midfielder rather than a winger. Rather than picking the ball up high, he is picking the ball deep and bringing it forward. That is his quality, in the final 3rd I honestly have given up on willian. Anything that I can get from him in term of assist and goals are bonus. 

If you want goal and assist better play CHO/Pedro or maybe puli

 

 

 

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

48 minutes ago, communicate said:

The thing is he is more of a right midfielder rather than a winger. Rather than picking the ball up high, he is picking the ball deep and bringing it forward. That is his quality, in the final 3rd I honestly have given up on willian. Anything that I can get from him in term of assist and goals are bonus. 

If you want goal and assist better play CHO/Pedro or maybe puli

Yes, Willian is good at dribbling with the ball, bringing it forward etc and you can say he's a right midfielder all you want but at the end of the day, he's been played as a winger ever since he got here. His numbers have been average at best and his inconsistent performances have been frustrating. As I mentioned previously, if people are gonna come here and tell everyone else about how great Willian is after 1 good performance every 10 games, then god help us all. Heck if this keeps up, we might actually enter the Torres territory of praising the player because he does ONE thing good and the bad things he does are ignored. 

[El P. 1,354]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

Yes, Willian is good at dribbling with the ball, bringing it forward etc and you can say he's a right midfielder all you want but at the end of the day, he's been played as a winger ever since he got here. His numbers have been average at best and his inconsistent performances have been frustrating. As I mentioned previously, if people are gonna come here and tell everyone else about how great Willian is after 1 good performance every 10 games, then god help us all. Heck if this keeps up, we might actually enter the Torres territory of praising the player because he does ONE thing good and the bad things he does are ignored. 

This reminds me of Marcos Alonso. "buuuuut he is wingback, you don't understaaaaand"

[communicate 2,703]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Yes, Willian is good at dribbling with the ball, bringing it forward etc and you can say he's a right midfielder all you want but at the end of the day, he's been played as a winger ever since he got here. His numbers have been average at best and his inconsistent performances have been frustrating. As I mentioned previously, if people are gonna come here and tell everyone else about how great Willian is after 1 good performance every 10 games, then god help us all. Heck if this keeps up, we might actually enter the Torres territory of praising the player because he does ONE thing good and the bad things he does are ignored. 

Like I said, if you want player to create chances in final 3rd Willian is probably not your guy. I think most people want their winger to be fantastic in final 3rd that is fair. Then you need to have a team and system that suit that player. In the end of the day, that is what it is all about what kind of role do you want him to play.

In our case yesterday, Willian playing his role was needed. His running opened up everything for our offense, I can see pedro, Puli or Cho struggling in yesterday game. 

 

 

 

 

[the wes 7,212]

Willian wants to extend his six-year stay at Chelsea with a new contract and is targeting further silverware, including the Champions League.

The Brazilian is in the final year of his deal at Stamford Bridge, but Willian told the London Evening Standard that he is eager to prolong his Blues stay.

"From my side, I want to stay," Willian said. "I have one year left and I want to stay because I like to play for Chelsea. 

"I love this club, I love to live in London and my family loves it here. I have been here six years already so everything is perfect for me.

"Of course [there is more I want to do at Chelsea], win the Champions League! I want to win more titles here, I want to play more games, to score more goals so everything that I can do, I will try hard to do."

[Abreu03 292]

The biggest fraud in the history of the Premier League does not want to come out anyway, someone has to expel him as soon as possible.
When he leaves, it will be one of the happiest days.  

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

2 hours ago, Abreu03 said:

The biggest fraud in the history of the Premier League does not want to come out anyway, someone has to expel him as soon as possible.
When he leaves, it will be one of the happiest days.  

No surprise he wants to stay. He and Luiz maintain the restaurant in London. If he leaves for free at the end of the season watch him sign for Arsenal 😂

[Vesper 30,190]

4 hours ago, the wes said:

Willian wants to extend his six-year stay at Chelsea with a new contract and is targeting further silverware, including the Champions League.

The Brazilian is in the final year of his deal at Stamford Bridge, but Willian told the London Evening Standard that he is eager to prolong his Blues stay.

"From my side, I want to stay," Willian said. "I have one year left and I want to stay because I like to play for Chelsea. 

"I love this club, I love to live in London and my family loves it here. I have been here six years already so everything is perfect for me.

"Of course [there is more I want to do at Chelsea], win the Champions League! I want to win more titles here, I want to play more games, to score more goals so everything that I can do, I will try hard to do."

[Vesper 30,190]

14 hours ago, Jason said:

It's a problem to expect a winger to contribute goals/assists and more importantly, perform consistently?

Consistency is such a key word with him. With Willian, Alonso, Morata, an ageing Pedro, Luiz, Azpi starting last season, and Barkley, we had/have seven of the most wildly inconsistent starting players on a top 20 team in the world. Alonso was the worst, as he had the fewest great moments, Azpi was inconsistent on defence, he was never that great offensively. Pedro was either all-world or completely ghost, Morata would just drive me insane, as clearly he has staggering talent, but is the weakest (mentally) striker I have seen in decade plus. Barkley would look like a monster every fourth or fifth game, but when he was poor, it killed us. Willian is just stupid. I cannot think of any better descriptive word. He is clueless in terms of spatial offensive and timing. He had the speed and so rarely used it. He tries to play like Garrincha, but ends up with too much dribbling and tricksy ball hog rot, when he should have played more like Robben, slashing hard direct drives.

I so wanted to like him, but he makes it impossible. He is not lazy like Alonso (well wasn't as he has looked lethargic so far mostly) and also still has pace, but no brain. Alonso is also the slowest under 30yo fullback who started on a top team that I can ever remember. I have no idea why, as he seems to otherwise be a good athlete. If Willian were as slow as Alonso, he would be the worst winger in the EPL.

[whats happening 1,615]

piece of shit. gtfo already

[Nicco 927]

Extend his contract another 5 years and after send the fuck to the development squad.

[Jase 43,479]

All that work of dribbling past players, getting the ball up the field wasted by horrendous passes in the final third for 3589357389573589739379568945645th time!