Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Your know what really grinds my gears?? That no other team want this guy. I have a feelin he will be a Moses or a Ba. Still think we are over payin them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 17M not so bad, thought it was 22M-24M before. Not so bad considering Moses was 12M with one year left on his contract. We do need a player like him and Moses, who can work wonders against lower level teams just willing to sit deep, so instances like that you want direct players instead of playing a heavy possession game through the middle.I'm glad KDB isn't involved but I still want confirmation that he will return to us, just don't understand why we are so desperate to send him out on loan. If he does go on loan then he'll be sold most certainly because it seems like we're just trying to hike up his price if he goes on loan, because it's obviously not to get him ready for Chelsea because he already is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I head a £34m 'deal' with a £22 transfer fee + £12m 5yr contract!That's not true, no way he's earning only £45k a week at Manchester City when he already had a good contract at Shakhtar. £22m and a contract worth £100k a week (roughly £25m for the whole contract length) is what most sources agree on for Fernandinho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hype of Chelsea wanting to sign the guy even if Bayer were being dicks and also willing to sacrifice KDB for the fellaBut if new reports are to be believed we haven't sacrificed KDB for him. We will see. If arsenal or someone bought him then I think Schurrle would have been about 12 mil most people would say that it was a pretty good signing. As we are Chelsea we have to overpay a bit, so 17 million pounds is fairly reasonable imo. He's not gonna be a hazard. But it doesn't mean he cannot be very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Don't forget, this is the same day that City paid £22m for a 28yr old Brazilian whose played the majority of his career in the Ukrainian League...I think we're OK tbh.Edit: what Jype said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Strength in depth is key to being successful in the PLIf we line up with - Oscar - Mata - Hazardwe the could potential have Schurrle, KdB and Moses on the bench to come no and change the game and that looks really promising.I was thinking the same thing too many times this season when we put out the starting XI looked good but when you looked at options on the bench you saw we had no game changers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Why can't you recognize his other abilities? Because he doesn't have any. Can't pass well, cross well, finish well, tackle well. All there is is this mythical 'hard working ability'. He tracks back, sure, but he's not bloody Ramires like people make him sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Never really seen him play so can't comment (like 95% of the people posting saying he is shit no doubt). If Mou and the board really want him; I'm game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Any decent Shirley videos around? Not just a goals compilation with generic background music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Because he doesn't have any. Can't pass well, cross well, finish well, tackle well. All there is is this mythical 'hard working ability'. He tracks back, sure, but he's not bloody Ramires like people make him sound. I agree, André is better than Rami on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Because he doesn't have any. Can't pass well, cross well, finish well, tackle well. All there is is this mythical 'hard working ability'. He tracks back, sure, but he's not bloody Ramires like people make him sound. so..how can a player with no qualities at all (as you say) play for germany, play for one of the best clubs in the Bundesliga and is wanted by one of the best clubs in the world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 is it confirmed?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8759277/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeedAs Mourinho was in Germany, he was asked about the transfer of Bayer Leverkusen's Andre Schurrle - amid reports that he has given the green-light for the move, which was agreed before his return to the club.But the Chelsea boss said: "There is no time for that, this is the time for Mikey - he is the man for today, Andre has to wait." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 so..how can a player with no qualities at all (as you say) play for germany, play for one of the best clubs in the Bundesliga and is wanted by one of the best clubs in the world...How does Torres continue to play for us? Mertesacker has 90 caps for Germany. Doesn't mean he's a top centre back. Yes - ONE of the best clubs - none of the other best clubs. There's a reason for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 so..how can a player with no qualities at all (as you say) play for germany, play for one of the best clubs in the Bundesliga and is wanted by one of the best clubs in the world...means nothing at all... they might be one of the better clubs in Germany, but their squad rather compares to a mid-table EPl club, full of average Germa players. That they finished a close 3rd with that squad speaks volumes of the quality of the league. But Schürrle is their most valuable player. I do not know what our scouts see in him what no one else sees, he is good but not great and will never be world class. Also, as his position is mainly LW/ 2nd Striker, i guess he will be a backup for Hazard, which we really need. The 17m is a bit high but u pay it also for his allroudn package: workrate, shot, striker's instinct, poaching abilites and versatility. He surely is not the perfect player, but he gives us depth in two departments where we need it. But in general, i am against this trend to sign young players as back ups. When Mourinho bought Sahin, he sacrificed his carreer and did nothing for Real madrid + you always overpay cos they are young. Experienced players are cheaper and contribute more and faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 means nothing at all... they might be one of the better clubs in Germany, but their squad rather compares to a mid-table EPl club, full of average Germa players. That they finished a close 3rd with that squad speaks volumes of the quality of the league. But Schürrle is their most valuable player. I do not know what our scouts see in him what no one else sees, he is good but not great and will never be world class. Also, as his position is mainly LW/ 2nd Striker, i guess he will be a backup for Hazard, which we really need. The 17m is a bit high but u pay it also for his allroudn package: workrate, shot, striker's instinct, poaching abilites and versatility. He surely is not the perfect player, but he gives us depth in two departments where we need it.Don't forget age - he's only 22 And if anybody can make this guy great it's Jose Him, Zlatan and a DM would be a good summer maybe in throw in a Rooney too (cover for Mata) - then we'd be set for the EPL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 His shot is proper beast though, could be an Anelka like signing. Probs won't do too much but will get the goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Start 22 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hope he can provide a good cross and pass, show Moses a thing or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Start 22 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Don't forget age - he's only 22 And if anybody can make this guy great it's Jose Him, Zlatan and a DM would be a good summer maybe in throw in a Rooney too (cover for Mata) - then we'd be set for the EPL Zlatan, really? That'd be dreamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Because he doesn't have any. Can't pass well, cross well, finish well, tackle well. All there is is this mythical 'hard working ability'. He tracks back, sure, but he's not bloody Ramires like people make him sound. You haven't really provided one decent argument as to why you think Schurrle can't pass well, can't cross well, can't finish well or can't tackle well (don't know why this is so relevant to you, lol). You're just sprouting it out simply because you don't fancy him as a player. He's a good player bought for squad depth which we sorely lacked last season. People have given decent arguments regarding why they want Schurrle or why they don't think he's a good buy (one that usually revolves around KDB but now that he's not involved in the deal I've yet to actually see a decent argument IMO) but your argument just reeks of "he's shit because I said so". You say you'd understand if Mourinho sold Mata but then when Mourinho's clearly approving of the Schurrle deal it's a different story, one that you're purposely neglecting. Anything you're saying on Schurrle doesn't really have any substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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