didierforever 7,349 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Messi going to start eventually play in the hole role as he gets older....Also, Suarez hasnt offically played with Messi yet and suarez is one of the best teammates you can have. Suarez and cr7 are not the same thing. Suarez and ramires might have the best workrate in the epl last season and suarez allowed steven gerrard to take ever pk, fk liverpool had. He isnt a stat whore. However, I dont know how well suarez will do with messi, however, suarez is probably a better match to messi....Also, zlatan didnt work out with a lot of people.. SHY was italy best player before zlatan came and became nonexistent afterwards... Robben and CR7 would never work. Robben is a hothead and was a selfish player to the max and cr7 still is one. Can you imagine every fk they have, those 2 would be fighting for it...Cristiano would never start at barca nor a pep team.Bastian and vidal are best cms around....The best players I think are at bayern, moreso than madrid.. I think bayern will wipe madrid out this season.first things first, when i said that these players would walk into any team, i meant it to show that their CLASS sets them apart so much that if they are available, they start, something which is not the case with LUIS right now.secondly, i have read your posts about CR and now u called him a "stat whore". any person who has such opinions of a 2 time ballon dor winner, is not worth having an argument against. also, a lot of people thought that robben would not start for a pep team. as much as i so bayern, i think robben was one of the main players in pep's bayern last season, so their goes your cr wont start for pep team argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Cr7 would not start on barcelona....Cr7 and Robben can never coexist... Only players that would start on every team is Messi, neuer, thiago silva, vidal, lahm and alaba. Bastian and alonso would of if it was 2012...LOL Ronado wouldn't start for Barcelona LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 The depreciation of Reus in here is laughable. We are talking about a top 5 wingers in the world when he is on form, a player who got around 15-20 goals for the past 3-5 years along with many assists playing on the wing. He was instrumental in that Dortmund run in 2013. Now he is available for 20m release clause and people are fucking debating about whether he can fit into this Chelsea team ahead of Schurrle/Willian on the wing. Sorry to tell you guys but this guy is just as good as Hazard when he is fully fit, maybe even better as he scores a lot more goals.Having Reus and Hazard on the wing is probably only behind having Ronaldo/Bale and Messi/Neymar. Maybe Robben/Ribery as well but Ribery is injury prone and probably past it now. If you are an automatic starter for a top national team like Germany you must be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 The depreciation of Reus in here is laughable. We are talking about a top 5 wingers in the world when he is on form, a player who got around 15-20 goals for the past 3-5 years along with many assists playing on the wing. He was instrumental in that Dortmund run in 2013. Now he is available for 20m release clause and people are fucking debating about whether he can fit into this Chelsea team ahead of Schurrle/Willian on the wing. Sorry to tell you guys but this guy is just as good as Hazard when he is fully fit, maybe even better as he scores a lot more goals.Having Reus and Hazard on the wing is probably only behind having Ronaldo/Bale and Messi/Neymar. Maybe Robben/Ribery as well but Ribery is injury prone and probably past it now. If you are an automatic starter for a top national team like Germany you must be good. I don't think he is top 5. Madrid has Bale and Cristiano, there are Messi also that plays in the wing sometimes right now, Neymar, Ribery and Robben, Hazard, Alexis, Di Maria and some others. But he is an incredible player and it would be great to have him, I agree with you... I think he would be a great buy, but we will have problems with Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern , Man CIty, Man United and PSG...A great winger can play in the right and in the left. Almost every world classs winger can play in both well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I don't think he is top 5. Madrid has Bale and Cristiano, there are Messi also that plays in the wing sometimes right now, Neymar, Ribery and Robben, Hazard, Alexis, Di Maria and some others. But he is an incredible player and it would be great to have him, I agree with you... I think he would be a great buy, but we will have problems with Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern , Man CIty, Man United and PSG...A great winger can play in the right and in the left. Almost every world classs winger can play in both well. RonaldoRobbenDi MariaBaleReus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 RonaldoRobbenDi MariaBaleReusIn the next year or so I think age will dictate that Robben will decline, so top 4 IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 are we remotely linked yet? With Schurrler struggling I think the board has atleast made a phone call or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 And how is Schurrle exactly struggling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 And how is Schurrle exactly struggling?can't keep a shot on target, inconsistent, can't start (super sub). overall, he's been underwhelming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 can't keep a shot on target, inconsistent, can't start (super sub). overall, he's been underwhelminglol he's started like 5 games, calm down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 RonaldoRobbenDi MariaBaleReusDo you know who is Ribery?Where the hell is Neymar in there? Neymar is playing better than Bale for example and there was no big difference between the 2 last season in terms of the quality of the game. Neymar was the star of Brazil in the world cup.Reus is really great but fr from beeing a a super star like Cristiano, Bale, Messi, Neymar, Robben and Ribery... and the next ones will be Hazard, Neymar...etc. Anyway he would be great for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Do you know who is Ribery?Where the hell is Neymar in there? Neymar is playing better than Bale for example and there was no big difference between the 2 last season in terms of the quality of the game. Neymar was the star of Brazil in the world cup.Reus is really great but fr from beeing a a super star like Cristiano, Bale, Messi, Neymar, Robben and Ribery... and the next ones will be Hazard, Neymar...etc. Anyway he would be great for us.Ribery was shit last season and is constantly injured. Neymar? He has potential but has done little to stake a claim in the top 5, James lit it up in the WC, is he better than Reus? Messi isn't a wing and Reus is in his prime, Hazard isn't and Reus puts up better numbers and is more consistent than Hazard. Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Ribery was shit last season and is constantly injured. Neymar? He has potential but has done little to stake a claim in the top 5, James lit it up in the WC, is he better than Reus? Messi isn't a wing and Reus is in his prime, Hazard isn't and Reus puts up better numbers and is more consistent than Hazard. Imo.I think reus is better than ribery but I don't think that u can use injuries to prove that. Reus is as injury prone as ribery if not more. Dont forget that ribery is 30 and is bound to get some injuries while reus is supposed to be in the prime of his physical fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Ribery was shit last season and is constantly injured. Neymar? He has potential but has done little to stake a claim in the top 5, James lit it up in the WC, is he better than Reus? Messi isn't a wing and Reus is in his prime, Hazard isn't and Reus puts up better numbers and is more consistent than Hazard. Imo.Ribery was not shit last season, he had problems with injuries but he is still clearly one of the best wingers in the game. And proved it in the last seasons and in the last also.Neymar right now is the second best scorer in La Liga with 7 goals without penaltys. He scored almost the same amount of goals per minute than Cristiano. Neymar scores a goal every 49 minutes. He already scored more goals in 6 incomplete games than most wingers in the world in all season. Neymar was the star of Brazil, Neymar scored tons of goals in Brazilian football at the age of 17. Neymar is in another world, He was already in another world last season but he had problems to play in the starting eleven.Hazard is another great winger that I don't understand how someone would rate him for sure below Reus.And there are others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 LOL Ronado wouldn't start for Barcelona LOL.Nothing wrong with that. Some guys just dont fit teams, Cr7 doesnt fit barcelona or a Pep team. Zlatan started 23 games for barca one year and henry 15. Also, barcelona wouldnt go out of their way to make this a cr7 favored team, which would pretty much guarantee to his failure... Pedro played so many games for barca years prior and now is getting completely outclassed by Munir, a teenager.... Barcelona get players that are good with the ball at their feet and have great passing ability, something Cr7 is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneChan95 225 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I think reus is better than ribery but I don't think that u can use injuries to prove that. Reus is as injury prone as ribery if not more. Dont forget that ribery is 30 and is bound to get some injuries while reus is supposed to be in the prime of his physical fitness.I think Dortmund must be doing something wrong in terms of fitness management. Their injury list has been astounding. Surely their medical staff have to be reviewed just like Arsenal. It's just unreal to have that many players constantly out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 lol he's started like 5 games, calm downwe've played like 6 games. wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Cr7 would not start on barcelona....Cr7 and Robben can never coexist... Only players that would start on every team is Messi, neuer, thiago silva, vidal, lahm and alaba. Bastian and alonso would of if it was 2012...On what planet do you come from where perhaps one of the greatest footballers of all-time doesn't get on the pitch at Barcelona? I don't think I've ever heard a comment more ridiculous than that ever... in any forum... any twitter feed... anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 we've played like 6 games. wake up. Off the top of my head...Burnley (started, goal)Bolton (started)Swansea (played 45 minutes)Schalke (didn't play)Man City (played for 28 minutes, scored)Everton (didn't play)Leicester (played 63 minutes)Aston Villa (played 23 minutes)Arsenal (started)Sporting (started)he featured in 7/9 games, started 4 of them. that means he played 431 minutes out of a possible 810. Not bad, especially playing fairly limited minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 On what planet do you come from where perhaps one of the greatest footballers of all-time doesn't get on the pitch at Barcelona? I don't think I've ever heard a comment more ridiculous than that ever... in any forum... any twitter feed... anywhere.Cr7 isnt one of the best players ever....Barcelona play a specific style, a specific way, just because you are great in one system, doesnt make you great in every system.. At Barcelona, he would never fit their style, just like he wouldnt fit Spain. Look at Cesc, Arsenal/Chelsea cesc vs Spain/barcelona Cesc.....Or Barcelona yaya vs city yaya... The same exact way Spain achieve all their glory when they finally dropped Raul from Espana and used torres/villa instead. Cr7 would never start for barcelona or any pep team and probably a cruff team as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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