Fernando Torres

[Backstreet09 499]

Yall call us fan boyz yet you people cry like lil bitchez

[Pacquiao 1,834]

the amount of fanboiz on here is unreal

so people who see genuine improvement in Torres based on actual performances are fanboys??? yeah great logic!

[AndersonBLUE 819]

To be honest everyone thinks the the 'Mourinho Factor' will suddenly transform this guy. I don't think Torres has the right attitude or personality to play under Jose; trust me, we will just see the same old Torres next season.

[Term-X 7,891]

Casillas is a spaniard with an ego

Sergio Ramos is a spaniard with an ego

Torres is a spaniard with an ego..

[couris 232]

People forget he was the only striker available for us and we played him until he was exhausted. Although this excuse is only valid for Hazard Mata Oscar Lampard etc but not for Torres.

[The Skipper 20,609]

So do people want Torres as our number one striker now because he popped 4 against Tahiti and 1 against Nigeria?

[couris 232]

So do people want Torres as our number one striker now because he popped 4 against Tahiti and 1 against Nigeria?

??? We still need a new striker.

[Jase 43,479]

There is a lot of middle ground between those two ways of thinking about him. Whatever people might have thought about him, over the last couple of months he has picked up his performances and seems to be in some kind of form. That's not to say 'he's back' but whether we decide to sell him or not people have to acknowledge that something looks a bit better about him.

He lost his most important weapon - his pace. The same thing happened to Alan Shearer, but he adjusted his game and was still a threat. Maybe Torres is starting to re-mould himself into a different type of striker?

That is precisely why I said what I said. He scored a few goals here and there in past few months and suddenly, people are habouring hopes or starting to think that keeping Torres would be a decent idea. I don't see what Torres is doing differently to remould himself into a different kind of striker. What is obvious that he goes AWOL for most parts of games and then just suddenly pop up with goals out of nowhere. I don't see any change whatsoever in his performances.

I don't think too many people, besides the obvious fanboys, will quickly forget what happened before that...What it shows is that a scenario with him remaining with us this season may not be as bad as it sounds...

Judging from the impression I have been getting, seems most (not all) have suddenly have had their heads turned because of Torres's goals. It is not a total disaster keeping him but it's a pretty bad bad idea doing so especially for a ST who doesn't do much in games when we most need him to and is on ridiculous wages right now. We would be better of getting a better ST than Torres and can perform better than him while at the same, earn less than him!

And like I said earlier, irrespective of his club form, his record with the national team, even by recent standards, remains good. It has little to do with how his form for Chelsea is, and vice versa.

I don't see how scoring 4 goals against Tahiti and 1 against Nigeria suddenly suggests his form with Spain remains good. He only got back into the Spain NT for the Confederations Cup because of his late flurry of goals towards the end of last season and even then, all but 1 came in the Europa League. Prior to that, he was hardly getting picked by Del Bosque at all.

its not 'short form' though is it, He has clearly changed his game and improved! this isn't based on what he has done in the Confederations cup but how he has been playing for the last 2 or 3 months of the season!!! Rafa gave him his own training program he got Torres in the gym and it has really benefited him, he has told Torres to stop trying to do too much with the ball in wrong areas of the pitch and he has taken that on board, Mourinho will improve him further imo,

Benitez told Torres to stop trying to do too much with the ball? Has Torres even do anything meaningful with the ball during the season?! Can hardly see what Torres is doing majorly different under Benitez and before Benitez came in. How has Torres changed his game and improved himself? Tell me. Most of his goals scored and supposedly good performances that came towards the end of last season happened in the Europa League, against 3rd/4th tier level opposition - Sparta Prague, Steaua Bucharest, Rubin Kazan and Basel. Yet, when he came up against better teams in the Premier League, he went completely AWOL. Only 1 goal scored between last December and May this year tell its own story. He played against the likes of QPR, Reading, Wigan, Newcastle, Southampton, Fulham, Liverpool and Tottenham and hardly even contributed anything meaningful in those said games at all.

And you know what's funny about this whole situation, Torres goes AWOL for most of the season, causing us to basically play with 10 men in games but scored few goals here and there and it suddenly got people thinking of keeping him when most of his games and performances have suggested he's beyond repair. YET, in the case of Luiz, no doubt he makes defensive mistakes but it has been almost completely exaggerated like as if he makes 2-3 mistakes in every game when that's not the case. Luiz is still young and his mistakes can still be ironed out but people are already calling for him to be sold. Some people can still be patient and have hope for Torres even after 2 1/2 years of rubbishness from him and yet these people can't even be patient with Luiz!

[Special Juan 28,100]

So what do we do if he starts next season like a bag of shit again? Put our hands together and hope January quickly comes?

[The Mak 4,459]

Seriously, what is it guys? What makes you believe he'll 'change'? Because some of you are sounding like the other half of an abusive partner...

Is it his hair? His face? Because it's certainly not footballing reasons or his effort, they've been highlighted over and over again.

Perhaps people are just in love with the big name of 'Torres'? Because that's all I can see; a striker who made a big name for himself but is no longer a big striker. And now people just seem to be clinging to the name in hope rather than expectation....

[Leif 6,006]

People aren't saying "Let's keep Torres, he's good now". People are generally saying that should he stay, which looks likely, things could look brighter for him next season as he has improved more each season he's been with us and it's unlikely he'll regress under Mourinho.

Maybe I missed a post which lead to all these "You still want Torres here?" comments currently being posted.

All I see is people saying he's improved, most of which is followed up with "I still think he should go", then people going "LOL YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS THINKING HE'S BACK" type posts. Is this going to be the new Mikel thread?

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Imagine he banging in the winner against Italy...Haha 'load of he is back' will come

[bluesman2610 1,415]

No matter what good he has done ( which has been mentioned many times in the past) will not make up for all the lack lusture performances over the last two and half seasons... but it can be said we in this forum have been pretty harsh on the man due to this, every goal he scores either brings "he's back" or the opposite "pub team" "the game was killed"... maybe because its torres that either side can't look at it objectively but he does need to go..

The Torres experiment did not work and we need to cut loses.. I still like Torres the person and even though he has been dismal for us I still like Torres the player so whether he is here or at another team I will always wish him the best

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

It's pretty apparent that he'll be here next season, though whether he's still first choice or not, we'll find out later on.

But if you accept that he'll be at Chelsea under Mourinho and he's looking like a better player lately, then that can only be good for Chelsea and surely you'd want him to be improving for the good of the club?

People aren't saying "Let's keep Torres, he's good now". People are generally saying that should he stay, which looks likely, things could look brighter for him next season as he has improved more each season he's been with us and it's unlikely he'll regress under Mourinho.

Maybe I missed a post which lead to all these "You still want Torres here?" comments currently being posted.

All I see is people saying he's improved, most of which is followed up with "I still think he should go", then people going "LOL YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS THINKING HE'S BACK" type posts. Is this going to be the new Mikel thread?

Spot on.

[Fernando 6,585]

This all looks too familiar.

A great end to the season and good in cup competition just like last year.

It looks like we got the new malouda!

Play awesome one or two games and get lost for six.

But hey malouda had one awesome season, so maybe we will get lucky and also get one great season with torres. :-)