Fernando Torres

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Last year, at least he gave a few assists. Guess how many he gave this season...

[Stats 7,142]

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1716/champions-league/2012/11/19/3538512/di-matteo-hints-at-axing-torres-for-vital-chelsea-clash-with?source=breakingnews

[Jase 43,479]

It started when he moaned about not playing in the CL final, then acted like the number 1 forward role was his right, the straw that truly broke the camels back was the he didn't care comments.

Has he actually even cared to begin with? I mean in his 2 years(almost 2) here, he often tends to sulk on the pitch whenever he's on and his body language has always projected negativity. All his talk about repaying the fans' support is just empty words. A complete utter BS and disgrace at a club like this and for the wages he's earning per week!

[Tomo 21,751]

Has he actually even cared to begin with? I mean in his 2 years(almost 2) here, he often tends to sulk on the pitch whenever he's on and his body language has always projected negativity. All his talk about repaying the fans' support is just empty words. A complete utter BS and disgrace at a club like this and for the wages he's earning per week!

I meant his moaning after the CL final was when i started to get annoyed at him, since then it's turned into genuine dislike to a Chelsea player for the first time for me and hopefully the last.

[Reddish-Blue 2,503]

http://www.goal.com/...ce=breakingnews

I'm not getting my hopes up about RDM dropping Torres.

[Jase 43,479]

Wonder people would take Giroud over Torres now after all the jokes about the former previously...

[Madmax 9,219]

It's like a nightmare you can't wake up from.

This guy - this guy - THIS guy is the starting centre forward for the European Champions? Fuck me.

[Madmax 9,219]

I could be wrong but I'm almost sure that we can add one player to the CL list that has played with a different team in Europe this season. So not playing is probably just to keep him fresh.

Torres played in the Europa for Liverpool then the CL for us in the same season, so that won't be the reason.

We can add one player, yes - but we already have - Cesar Azpilicueta.

[Tomo 21,751]

Wonder people would take Giroud over Torres now after all the jokes about the former previously...

I thought even before he started scoring Giroud was pretty decent, i didn't understand the stick he got.

[The Skipper 20,609]

I thought even before he started scoring Giroud was pretty decent, i didn't understand the stick he got.

Giroud got stick because it's obvious that the Arsenal fans naturally expect him to replace RVP's influence on the team, which is very hard to replicate.

I wish Sturridge got the minutes Torres got this season so far. If RDM drops Torres for the City or Juventus game he'll make a big statement to Torres. I've had so much patience with this guy but enough is enough now.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

I thought even before he started scoring Giroud was pretty decent, i didn't understand the stick he got.

It's called overreaction based on a tiny sample size. It happens all the time on virtually every topic on here. It's as if many people don't understand that great players can have poor stretches and mediocre players can have excellent stretches and that what defines a player's ability is not a bad pass or a bad match or even bad month, it's his performance over the course of months and years.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

We can add one player, yes - but we already have - Cesar Azpilicueta.

Did Dave play with Lille in the EL this season? If so then you have a point. My apologies.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Did Dave play with Lille in the EL this season? If so then you have a point. My apologies.

Azpi was signed from marsaille.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Azpi was signed from marsaille.

Oops, my bad. I actually knew that, no idea why I wrote Lille though

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Oops, my bad. I actually knew that, no idea why I wrote Lille though

Maybe because we signed hazard from lille and you mixed them up in your mind.