BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 So you say he will be back? Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Won't say Torres had anything to do with RDM getting fired, well obviously you could say his poor play led to his firing. But directly behind it, i don't believe it.But you can definitely say he benefited greatly from RDM firing, and the same for AVB sacking for that matter. Under both managers, their confidence in Torres was completely gone, AVB sparsely used Torres in his last days, and under RDM the west brom was the turning point.Lucky bastard he obviously gets a clean slate with the new manager, and especially under Rafa. Things are not going to be any different under Benitez, if anyone think Rafa can get Torres back to his best then that is more false hope, Torres beyond a doubt is past it, his speed and acceleration was his biggest attribute and that is gone. Torres is similar to Essien and Kaka, where their best asset has deteriorated because of multiple injuries, under no manager can that be reversed. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Roman has tried all he can to make his 50mil on torres not be a waste. Forcing RDM to start him and not buy any striker and hoping on him.He is finished. Can't score, can't pass, can't dribble, can't hold the ball without falling.... Roman can buy the world for torres but he will never be the same. Just accept u wasted money on him and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybodyisready 155 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Im trying to stay positive maybe he will get suspended or injured...agreed. Although I hate to say this but I'm actually looking forward to see what's going to happen now that rafa is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 people saying that torres had no hand in RDM's firing need to wake up and grow a brain. or are u guys telling me that a person who accepted our inferiority to barca and bayern and made us park the bus (for which he has got so much stick), could not see that torres is finished and that he is shit. he played torres in almost every match even when their were only 2 strikers and the only thing that could keep them both playing at their best was rotation. do u guys actually consider RDM to be so ignorant, stupid and worthless. the answer to the persistence with torres is HE WAS OBVIOUSL TOD TO DO SO. dont forget that this is the same man who started bertrand in a CL final ahead of torres, malouda and sturridge. so dont tell me that he dint have the balls to drop torres. before lamps injury dint he drop lamps to the bench,and even if we ignore this then comes the case of his sacking. on what grounds did he face the axe? that we had one bad month? ROMAN may be cunt and a bitch but he is definitely not stupid. any1 telling me that the reason for RDM's sacking was chelsea's poor performance for the past 8 matches need to get their heads tested. AVB was giving a fair go but when it was obvious beyond doubt that he was ineeficient, only then he was sacked. same with carlo who had got ample time and the completion of a whole season, and only after that did he sack him.so people IN THIS CASE DO READ BETWEEN THE LINES. it is because of the blonde bitch that rdm was sacked, no other explanation can make any sense. when avb was sacked , it was because we still had a chance in the CL and that the chance was only in our hands. here the scenario is totally different. even if we win against noordsjaelland, we might not go thru, plus making such a big change before a match against man city does not make sense. the only thing that does is the involvement of this blonde bitch.torres was not a factor is the sacking. HE WAS "THE" FACTOR. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 If having Benitez in charge - a man that can style our play to our centre forward's strengths - can at least improve Torres' proficiency up front before the end of the season, he'll have done a good job in that respect at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 If having Benitez in charge - a man that can style our play to our centre forward's strengths - can at least improve Torres' proficiency up front before the end of the season, he'll have done a good job in that respect at least.His strengths at Liverpool were his pace and acceleration, which he has lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted November 23, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted November 23, 2012 To all of you saying Torres isn't to blame consider this.RDM knew he was leaving before the game. That much is certain. Benitez was contacted days ago, if not weeks, and knew the job was available.So, with RDM knowing he was leaving what was his final act? To drop this idiot and start the game with...NO STRIKERS! That was a massive statement. He said fuck you Roman and your piece of shit striker you're in love with. If anything dropping Torres accelerated the process.What a legend. Love you Di Matteo. Amblève., KingEssien, pHaRaOn and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 To all of you saying Torres isn't to blame consider this.RDM knew he was leaving before the game. That much is certain. Benitez was contacted days ago, if not weeks, and knew the job was available.So, with RDM knowing he was leaving what was his final act? To drop this idiot and start the game with...NO STRIKERS! That was a massive statement. He said fuck you Roman and your piece of shit striker you're in love with. If anything dropping Torres accelerated the process.What a legend. Love you Di Matteo.Plausible interpretation but I'm too inclined to apply the principle of Occam's razor (as I was in the huge AVB v Terry/Cole debacle in the Napoli game and never quite bought at least half of the manager v player stories). 1 It's very reasonable to give some rest to your most played outfield player, 2 Managers know better than players if they need to rest them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisho 33 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Torres needs to play with sturridge, will ease the pressure on torres and wll give sturridge the game time he needs. I think playing with 2 strikers will get both strikers firing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Term-X 7,891 Posted November 23, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted November 23, 2012 Paco Miguel is the new fitness coach, who worked with Torres at Atletico when he was ten years old and at Liverpool. Xavi Valero is the new data analyst who Torres described himself as "outstanding" and owed much of his great form at the time to the work the pair did with each other. This is becoming more and more like Fernando Torres FC by the day. Peace., KonohasOrangeFlash, didierforever and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Paco Miguel is the new fitness coach, who worked with Torres at Atletico when he was ten years old and at Liverpool. Xavi Valero is the new data analyst who Torres described himself as "outstanding" and owed much of his great form at the time to the work the pair did with each other. This is becoming more and more like Fernando Torres FC by the day.And God knows that's a horrible FC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 To all of you saying Torres isn't to blame consider this.RDM knew he was leaving before the game. That much is certain. Benitez was contacted days ago, if not weeks, and knew the job was available.So, with RDM knowing he was leaving what was his final act? To drop this idiot and start the game with...NO STRIKERS! That was a massive statement. He said fuck you Roman and your piece of shit striker you're in love with. If anything dropping Torres accelerated the process.What a legend. Love you Di Matteo.That's a good thought actually, never saw it that way. Sturridge was probably going to start against Juve but got injured, second natural choice would have been Torres, but no. RDM chose to take a massive gamble in a crucial game which has never been done here before (the first time ever playing with false 9?). It looked like a gamble by a man who knew he had nothing to lose. The more I think about it the more it looks like a statement. Peace., Blue Armour and didierforever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Plausible interpretation but I'm too inclined to apply the principle of Occam's razor (as I was in the huge AVB v Terry/Cole debacle in the Napoli game and never quite bought at least half of the manager v player stories). 1 It's very reasonable to give some rest to your most played outfield player, 2 Managers know better than players if they need to rest them.Torres didn't get picked by Spain so had a week off and only played about 60 minutes against West Brom. He wasn't rested, he was dropped. You don't rest your only available striker in your (up until that point) biggest game of the season.Di Matteo knew what he was doing. Kudos to him for going out on his own terms and not playing Roman's bitch. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Paco Miguel is the new fitness coach, who worked with Torres at Atletico when he was ten years old and at Liverpool. Xavi Valero is the new data analyst who Torres described himself as "outstanding" and owed much of his great form at the time to the work the pair did with each other. This is becoming more and more like Fernando Torres FC by the day.has a certain ring to it Fernando Torres F C or F T for short F T for C F C .....waiting for A F C Chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 has a certain ring to it Fernando Torres F C or F T for short F T for C F C .....waiting for A F C ChelseaClam down man. Smoke some weed. Six months is not that long period of time after all. didierforever and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
different level 1,056 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Paco Miguel is the new fitness coach, who worked with Torres at Atletico when he was ten years old and at Liverpool. Xavi Valero is the new data analyst who Torres described himself as "outstanding" and owed much of his great form at the time to the work the pair did with each other. This is becoming more and more like Fernando Torres FC by the day.Well, it appears that the club has tried almost everything in order to support and help Nando (not that they have much of a choice, still more than a month until the transfer window opens). I think the people here should follow that example or at least stop the insults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 the more i read about it, the more i am convinced of the "torres factor"... what a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Well, since we got all those new people around Torres in order to get his speed, acceleration, instict, motivation and scoring boots back, the next logical step is to get Xavi Alonso or Xavi Alonso type of midfielder. I mean, everybody knows he needs that kind of playmaker in the team, final step to get the old Torres back. (Besides, our attacking trio could use one, just to get more space without having to drop deep in order to get the ball .)I agree, we have insisted with Torres way too much this season. I still don't understand why we didn't get new striker back in the summer. I'm confused just like everybody else. Nevermind, experiment failed and we are about to pay the price. Think we are going to watch replay next spring? No, No, No, No and No.For God sake, nobody is so hopeful and naive to lose even more than this. This will end in January. We are getting new striker regardless of Benitez appointment. And that striker will play. I can't be sure if Torres is leaving, but he will be benched. (How do you know that Benitez' task isn't to 'revive' Torres before we get new striker, in order to get us some decent deal for him? Or interested party?)People who run this club have made many mistakes as well as success, but they are not idiots who will continue to lose games and money with this tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Worth a read.http://en-prosa.tumblr.com/post/36326276870/today-i-gathered-some-facts-about-fernandos manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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