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in all honesty, i think lukaku would have cracked a couple of goals. and how are you saying torres did much better than lukaku would have done against hull is beyond me. all torres actually did was one good pass to oscar. the penalty which torres got was well foolish from th keeper and you have to admit these kind of balls are lukaku's prowess. the fk that he earned was a dive and 35 yards out. i seriously doubt that such a thing should even be mentioned while putting on the credentials of a player but that is what torres makes u do. except for these 3 events , i dont remember anythign. his general play was bad as usual and the reception he got here after the match would prove me right.

he dint get into a singl goal scoring position/oppurtunity.

he created 1 goal scoring opp (penalty), and none from open play which is not something u would generally expect from a striker who is playing in the team due to his link up play.

Yes he did not create much chances through passes but he did create A LOT of space with his movement. KDB, Oscar and Hazard always found space to run into centrally and that is because Torres made countless runs to the wings and dropped into the whole and allowed one of the three to run beyond him into the vacant space. For me, the first half against Hull is exactly why he is currently our best striker and why he fits better into the team than the others.

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Yes he did not create much chances through passes but he did create A LOT of space with his movement. KDB, Oscar and Hazard always found space to run into centrally and that is because Torres made countless runs to the wings and dropped into the whole and allowed one of the three to run beyond him into the vacant space. For me, the first half against Hull is exactly why he is currently our best striker and why he fits better into the team than the others.

same thing again. as i said before, not what we want.

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Yes he did not create much chances through passes but he did create A LOT of space with his movement. KDB, Oscar and Hazard always found space to run into centrally and that is because Torres made countless runs to the wings and dropped into the whole and allowed one of the three to run beyond him into the vacant space. For me, the first half against Hull is exactly why he is currently our best striker and why he fits better into the team than the others.

Sorry but I have to ask: Did you hit your head?

I will save this post, and then re-post it after you've seen enough of Lukaku. Then you should feel quite dumb.

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I've said over a month ago and I'll say it again: The sooner you accept that Torres is our first choice striker the more moaning and cry you save yourselves.

Yes, he's no where near a world-class striker, but at the moment he's our best striker. Accept it, embrace it, learn to live with it.

You were saying? :P

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I hope Eto'o can perform to something near his previous best, but I think that would be a bot too much to ask of someone has been away from football at the top level for almost three seasons.

The Russian league isn't as bad as made out, they have the Moscow teams and Zenit who are strong, certainly not that much weaker then the french league (for example).

We don't even need him at his previous best, with the midfield we have a striker who knows what he is doing should be fine.

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The Russian league isn't as bad as made out, they have the Moscow teams and Zenit who are strong, certainly not that much weaker then the french league (for example).

We don't even need him at his previous best, with the midfield we have a striker who knows what he is doing should be fine.

Maybe, but it's no where near the level of the CL. Anyway, he'll need time to blend in with the players.

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I was one of the very few people criticizing Torres when people were making ridiculous excuses like Malouda hates him and Kalou doesn't pass to him and our midfield is too slow for him and that it's just a matter of time till he gets back to his best. He never got back to his best and he never will. But he has improved and adjusted to our system. But now instead of the ridiculous excuses the new trend seems to be ridiculous hate towards him despite us not having any better options. It seems this man can only inspire extreme opinions.

Same here..remember back when AVB was here, other strikers like Didier were getting so much flak. People's opinions can get turned on their heads so quickly when something new comes along. Torres has made an effort to change his game for the way the current team is setup. Granted, its not very good, but then again he isn't the type of striker meant for this role. So criticizing him at this point is rather hollow.

Nonetheless I would definitely like to see Lukaku get a chance to start, especially in one of the coming games against Everton and Fulham. Just so he can get a fair chance, and doesn't go down the Daniel Sturridge route.

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If I were him I'd leave. Eto'o coming in now to be Jose's number one, and Lukaku is our man for the future,

Pretty sure he isn't happy with how he's playing, he's staying for the trophies probably, but what's the point when you play bad? I mean doesn't he want to go to Spain or something and do better?

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If I were him I'd leave. Eto'o coming in now to be Jose's number one, and Lukaku is our man for the future,

Pretty sure he isn't happy with how he's playing, he's staying for the trophies probably, but what's the point when you play bad? I mean doesn't he want to go to Spain or something and do better?

I feel Torres will be as hard to get rid of as Bogarde ,, Malouda or the Pox

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Yes he did not create much chances through passes but he did create A LOT of space with his movement. KDB, Oscar and Hazard always found space to run into centrally and that is because Torres made countless runs to the wings and dropped into the whole and allowed one of the three to run beyond him into the vacant space. For me, the first half against Hull is exactly why he is currently our best striker and why he fits better into the team than the others.

I agree about making space thought Torres had a great first hour against Manure ,,,hope to see much more like that even 90 minutes

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If I were him I'd leave. Eto'o coming in now to be Jose's number one, and Lukaku is our man for the future,

Pretty sure he isn't happy with how he's playing, he's staying for the trophies probably, but what's the point when you play bad? I mean doesn't he want to go to Spain or something and do better?

He does (want to do better) but all that changes every time he goes pick up (figuratively) his paycheck... wonder why... :)

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He does (want to do better) but all that changes every time he goes pick up (figuratively) his paycheck... wonder why... :)

Honestly I dont think that's it .. he doesn't really look like the greedy type.

He probably just wants to stay at the top, but he really has to realize its not working.

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Honestly I dont think that's it .. he doesn't really look like the greedy type.

He probably just wants to stay at the top, but he really has to realize its not working.

All players are greedy by definition, that's what being professional means; that means you only do what you do for money, never for free.

All professional players I've ever met think about two things: money and girls. Yes, playing the CL also means more exposure, which leads to more money (not only salary but sponsors). So, people get all excited when a player wants "CL football" even though it really means play for a bigger club that offers more exposure, which leads to more money.

A hefty paycheck can squash any idea of seeking an adventure here or there, especially if the professional has a family. it becomes difficult to justify, esp to the better half, why not go for the better deal possible. Remember footballer's careers are relatively short, especially for strikers. So, they must make all the money they can in 10 or so years, or life can become interesting later on.

BTW, companies do the same. They have incentives like stock grants (RSUs) which are internally called "golden locks."

Just for fun: http://www.salary-money.com/fernando-torres-salary-euro-450000.php#.Uh-uwLxhLkE

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