lionsden 4,689 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Okay, Cech is miles ahead of Courtois. But Courtois is still a top 5 gk. And we have to choose whether we want 4-5 years of Cech or 12-15 years of Thibaut.I will have 5 years of reliability, top professionalism, great leadership on and off the pitch and an extra topping of amazing personality please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I will have 5 years of reliability, top professionalism, great leadership on and off the pitch and a topping of amazing personality to boot please.Then thank god you're not the manager. Courtois is already a top 5 gk at 21. He could be as good as Cech if not better with time. Cech is not what he was 2-3 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Then thank god you're not the manager. Courtois is already a top 5 gk at 21. He could be as good as Cech if not better with time. Cech is not what he was 2-3 years ago.It's amazing that the people who talk about supporting youth and giving them a chance are the first to put the boot into them and unfairly criticise them. It's simply moaning for the sake of it.Lionsden's assessment of Courtois is massively flawed. Of course he has areas of his game to work on but every player does...but he's 21 for fuck's sake and already better than Cech.Cech has become dodgy at crosses. He's cost us goals, he's cost us points and those points could've cost us the title. Yes we lacked a striker. Yes we are a work in progress, but he fucked up against West Brom and Stoke (amongst others) yet the sainted Cech gets a free pass.I love Cech. He's a Chelsea legend and he rivals Bonetti and Kharine (what?? he was awesome) as our best ever, but he was dropped last season because he made mistakes. Let's assess him fairly if we're going to criticise Courtois harshly - Cech looked poorer last season than he has done in a long time. Courtois just seems to be getting better. Take emotion out of the equation and look at the trends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Guys, we already have about a dozen Cech vs Courtois threads. Can we please keep this one about the next Chelsea captain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Guys, we already have about a dozen Cech vs Courtois threads. Can we please keep this one about the next Chelsea captain? Apologies. Got sucked into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Based on what? The hype machine? Newer and younger is better bandwagoners?. I base my opinion on what I have seen from both Keepers and Cech is the superior GK. I prefer to go off visual evidence rather than statistics and hype machine.For one, Cech is a superior ball handler and shot stopper (He actually catches or parries shots out of danger zone unlike Thibaut)He has superior reflexes, superior anticipation and awareness (This one along with ball handling are not even debatable in my opinion) , better judgement.The only areas where Courtois edges Cech are agility (he's younger which makes it only normal), dealing with corners and distribution which isn't much of an achievement as Cech has one of the worst ball distribution of any goalkeeper ever.Everything else Cech has him beat easily and it's also worth noting that despite our solid defence the Czech still gets tested far far more often and he's usually very reliable.I don't need misleading statistics to tell me these things and those are just the tangibles.No I base it on watching both keepers consistently for the last 3 years!!! I haven't mentioned anything about stats so I have no idea why you keep referring to that. Courtios is better then Cech at almost every aspect, I haven't seen a better GK in world football then Courtois it's a no brainer who the better keeper is! If you watch both it's clear Courtois is better, you obviously find it hard to admit as your obviously a big Cech fan but you need to see what most knowledgeable fans see who watch both play regularly and that is that Courtois is simply the better keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 No I base it on watching both keepers consistently for the last 3 years!!! I haven't mentioned anything about stats so I have no idea why you keep referring to that. Courtios is better then Cech at almost every aspect, I haven't seen a better GK in world football then Courtois it's a no brainer who the better keeper is! If you watch both it's clear Courtois is better, you obviously find it hard to admit as your obviously a big Cech fan but you need to see what most knowledgeable fans see who watch both play regularly and that is that Courtois is simply the better keeper.Dude, we're done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Mario 638 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 No I base it on watching both keepers consistently for the last 3 years!!! I haven't mentioned anything about stats so I have no idea why you keep referring to that.Courtios is better then Cech at almost every aspect, I haven't seen a better GK in world football then Courtois it's a no brainer who the better keeper is! If you watch both it's clear Courtois is better, you obviously find it hard to admit as your obviously a big Cech fan but you need to see what most knowledgeable fans see who watch both play regularly and that is that Courtois is simply the better keeper.Are you put Choulo19 in your ignore list m8? Just asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Dude, we're done.Err maybe you are! I was the one who was actually quoted so I am going to reply whether you like it or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Err maybe you are! I was the one who was actually quoted so I am going to reply whether you like it or not!Chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Looks like it will be Fabregas. Jose Mourinho prepared to appoint 'fantastic' Cesc Fabregas as Chelsea captain CHELSEA manager Jose Mourinho has boasted Cesc Fabregas' captaincy credentials, and hinted that he may be the next recipient of John Terry's armband.http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/526131/Cesc-Fabregas-Chelsea-Captain-Appointment-Stamford-Bridge-Stars-Update-Latest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Didn't expect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Von Doom 258 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Matic / Fabregas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 good choice if it is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Cahill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Didn't expect that.Cesc was always going to be the next captain...There is no one on chelsea that could take the role and I'm glad he will get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 for the next 3-4 years: cahill as captain, Branna as VClong term: Kalas captain zouma VC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 for the next 3-4 years: cahill as captain, Branna as VClong term: Kalas captain zouma VCDont see cahill as a starter for the next 4 years..Also, I dont see neither zouma or kalas as starters in the future... Especially, long term starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Cesc.Until we purchase Thiago and beats him to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Has JT announced his retirement?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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