Hutcho 8,443 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I hope Lamps can recover and play this game.Yeah, he is kind of the forgotton man though if he is fit will be key as is obviously a great man to have if we need to rest some players. And games like West brom away and fulham at home are where we should be playing him. Fingers corssed he can be fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danelka 209 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I read somewhere that he is Clattenburg's best friend. Can't end well if true."Grabbing a lift: Clattenburg jumped into a car with fellow ref Michael Oliver."It's from Daily Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Hazard or Oscar should get rested after internationals.We NEED to not lose vs Juve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Draw... Last Minute Penalty from Oliver... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Hazard or Oscar should get rested after internationals.We NEED to not lose vs Juve.I agree ... They need to stay sharp. A rest might be in order here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 It's time to rest some players before the juve's game and keep Mazacar on the bench if needed. We can't play the same line up all the season without preparing our squad players---------Cech--------------Azpi - Ivan - Cahill - Cole------ Mikel - Romeu -----Moses - Oscar - Marin - -------- Sturridge --------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 i dont expect a good result. the usual winter slump has started. playing poorly, players looking tired, media adding pressure. wont be suprised if we end up losing as wba have definitely got the quality to score 2(long, odemwingie).mata,hazard should be rested. danny should start but we all know what we are gonna get, dont we.anyways this is what i think the lone up should becechazpi iva cahill bert/colemikel rambomoses oscar marinsturridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 i dont expect a good result. the usual winter slump has started. playing poorly, players looking tired, media adding pressure. wont be suprised if we end up losing as wba have definitely got the quality to score 2(long, odemwingie).mata,hazard should be rested. danny should start but we all know what we are gonna get, dont we.anyways this is what i think the lone up should becechazpi iva cahill bert/colemikel rambomoses oscar marinsturridge.Almost the same line up i would choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Almost the same line up i would chooseso what exactly does rdm see? i know he has personal contact and training sesseions, but its just suprising how different the team management's thinking is from the fans' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'm sorry but we need to rest players. Its time to use our squad rather than just the first 11.CechAzpilicueta Luiz Cahill BertrandLampard MikelMoses Hazard MarinSturridgeWe look average up front. We really need to get a Striker or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The referee for this game...We have won both of our games in the league when Michael Oliver is the referee - 3-0 home win over Bolton last season and the 1-0 home win against Stoke this season.I think he's the best referee at the moment, from the insane amount of Premier League I saw last season, I always though he was excellent, clever decisions, explains it to the players etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 WBA are a different animal when they're at home. When they play away they sit back and allow possession, but at home they try and dictate the game. Clarke has got them well organised from the midfield back to the defence so we're going to need to move the ball quickly and press them high, which we're more than capable of. Whoever is playing at CB is going to be in for a tough day though, because from the looks of it, Shane Long is a pain in the arse to play against.They don't actually sit back, they have a very efficient zonal marking system in midfield: they play with midfielders and they naturally tend to play narrow, but that's reforced by the fact the instructions are to block the passing angles inside and leave the channels willingly free.That's why they'll last in my opinion, that's not that tiring compared to approaches where you press, come out or take control of the play via possessionThe opponent can cross and that's always cleared by the best CB pairing in the air in the PL, Olsson/McAuley. The midfielders picks the 2nd balls and launch counter attacks, even at home.When you see them play you never see players tracking between the lines, such as this picture at Wigan last week end (that was a flat 4-4-2):The playmaker is arguably James Morrison, the same Morrison which I created the transfer thread during the summer He can cross, shoot, assist, score...Otherwise there's Mulumbu even if his last choices are wasteful. But at least this season he's covered by the outstanding Yacob who regains the ball and is always well positionedI think Clarke will play a 4-3-3 with Long upfront and Odemwingie on the left (constant threat as long as you leave him some space to shoot, can score from distance, otherwise he's no other contribution like Podolski)If you have not followed @Mosesstats yet, you have to:@MosesStatshttps://twitter.com/...096326783352834@VictorMoses has 3 goals and 2 assists in 6 games against West Brom. Best tally against a PL club, which he never lost to: W3, D3I genuinly hope he'll play, Billy Jones is the weak link despite his determination.I wonder what approach we could have against them, width would mean crosses that would be easily cleared... and that will be difficult to penetrate centrally. Probably shooting from distance or very quick & short link up play in the box.Or maybe use Torres as a false 9 to let other insert by overcrowding some zones of the pitch to skirt the zonal marking.Torres as the false 9 has a point in that sort of games, not meaning he hasn't to score but that's the kind of game in which a Falcao won't win you a cross between the opponent's CBs, you won't especially get a lot of space with striker runs through space etc...City scored thanks to an incredibly powerful player in the air (and a clear Richards foul on Foster) and after a fast break as a matter of fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 To normal people, sitting back and allowing possession means allowing the teams to attack the flanks and put it into the box, clearing it and countering. Obviously not to superhuman tacticians like SeB I would've expanded on my points because I believe we're going to need genuine width to beat this WBA team. They're usually good at winning the ball in midfield, but i'm not convinced by their ability to keep the ball for extended periods, maybe it was just because Wigan were overcrowding the midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 James Morrison is no threat - he will be easily marked out of the game - he's not Messi FFS... Who we also kept quiet (to a degree)Some severe negativity here, lets get positive and play our hungry bench players, who on their day still have more than enough in the locker to beat WBA.Shane Long is fast, but an awful finisher - nearly as shite as Gomez in the CL Final.We got this! RDM will mix it up and we will produce a great performance - I'm going 3-1 to us!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Mata wont play for Spain while Oscar and Hazard will play through most of their matches this Wednesday, Mata should definetly not be the one getting rested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I don't think that hazard will play more than a half period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Ramires - MikelMoses - Oscar - MataSturridgeTake off either Mata or Oscar in the 2nd half or so and bring on Hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachikethas 1,154 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 so far the main goal threat have been from our trio. thats makes its very predictable for opponents.. moses and struridge must start in this match.. we should try differnent combianation,always stiking with mata,oscar and hazard is not going to help all the time..the most impressive thing about this chelsea team is that the quality of set pieces been improved a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Oscar, luiz, ramires, mikel, moses, are all playing in the early hours of thursday what are the chances they will have recovered before the game on saturday especially if they will feature against juve on tuesday next week. Luiz might be ok since he did not play vs liverpool.--------Cech-------Azpi--------iva-------cahill---------bert--------Luiz----------------Romeu-----------Mata(sturridge)-----marin------Hazard(mata)-------------------Torres--------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 We need to play Sturridge; Moses; Romeu; Lamps and Marin - they need games, soon we are going to be playing every 3 days and we need to be sure that all of our squad is physically and mentally prepared for a period of time in which rotation will be key. The fact that we have not been utilizing our full rooster will be our downfall in the long run - we saw it last season as Sturridge and Mata burned out during the Christmas period after playing around 25 games before Christmas. The only player who I feel comfortable to have in the tank to play such a schedule at the moment is Ramires. Also RdM needs to stop with the reactionary subs, he needs to do things like SAF and Jose - when something is not working out(we are not killing off games), make a sub at half time - make it clear to the squad that you expect more in the second straight away rather than waiting for the opposition to equalize before you try to change things up. Keep players on their toes. Hopefully we get a clean bill of health after the internationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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