Tomo 21,751 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Its funny that there is always a few that are leaping to Torres's defence no matter what, well to those people, where the fuck were you when Kalou and Bosingwa got criticized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Its funny that there is always a few that are leaping to Torres's defence no matter what, well to those people, where the fuck were you when Kalou and Bosingwa got criticized?Not relevant mate, don't get me wrong i agree with you on an extent as there shouldn't be any defendants what so ever. But Kalou was generally bad, he has nothing to his name as an individual, Bosingwa was a good at first and very good before he joined us, but he was consistently shit and was the leak of our defence. As for Torres I'll be honest he's put better performances in than those two, and he was one of the best strikers in the world about 4 year ago.There shouldn't be defenders, but i wouldn't compare them with Bosingwa and Kalou, even on the defendants factor, as Torres has got his fanboys for a reason, even if they do sicken me by supporting this team because of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Shakater is better than I expected. Perhaps our players underestimated the ukranian side. I think Oscar was bad, despite his goal. Hazard was also fucking awful, the guy needs to learn how to shoot, he usually go to the pitch esily. Mata was far from good. Ramires was our better player in the midfield.Terry was in a bad day.Well, I think Torres was decent in the first half, imo he was our best attacking player in the first 45 minutes. Hazard and Oscar were not better than the spaniard today.I also would like to know who asked for Mkel to take that free kick in the end of the match, no surprise the ball went directly to GK`s hand, the guy was good in the defence, tough. Now we must win the match against Shaktar next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 So we lose a game in the group stage and suddenly we're not ready/capable of winning the tournament? Give me a fucking break! It's not a completely different squad from last year. Saying that is utter rubbish as long as the chances are still there. Even last year when Levrkusen beat us 2-1 as well, we still had hope. We comfortably topped our group in some of the last 9 seasons but that wasn't enough to win the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Not relevant mate, don't get me wrong i agree with you on an extent as there shouldn't be any defendants what so ever. But Kalou was generally bad, he has nothing to his name as an individual, Bosingwa was a good at first and very good before he joined us, but he was consistently shit and was the leak of our defence. As for Torres I'll be honest he's put better performances in than those two, and he was one of the best strikers in the world about 4 year ago.There shouldn't be defenders, but i wouldn't compare them with Bosingwa and Kalou, even on the defendants factor, as Torres has got his fanboys for a reason, even if they do sicken me by supporting this team because of him.Hazard gave away the ball for the second goal, and he still got 5 votes for motm, well, 3 came from belgian fans. Oscar scored our goal, but he gave an assist for a Shaktar goal, but the guy missed, he was also far from superb today.Funny thing is, Torres was way worst when he joined us, and back there he got a lot of support and people saying he was playing good. Now he became the new Bosingwa and Anelka: our scapegoat when nothing is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 They were the better team, as simple as that. It was very similar to the Atletico Madrid match, which is a bit worrying, but time to forget and look forward to the United match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,145 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Shakater is better than I expected. Perhaps our players underestimated the ukranian side.I think Oscar was bad, despite his goal. Hazard was also fucking awful, the guy needs to learn how to shoot, he usually go to the pitch esily. Mata was far from good. Ramires was our better player in the midfield.Terry was in a bad day.Well, I think Torres was decent in the first half, imo he was our best attacking player in the first 45 minutes. Hazard and Oscar were not better than the spaniard today.I also would like to know who asked for Mkel to take that free kick in the end of the match, no surprise the ball went directly to GK`s hand, the guy was good in the defence, tough. Now we must win the match against Shaktar next week.You criticized Hazard because he didnt shoot properly but daid Torres was decent. What did he do, he is the striker and the one who should be "SHOOTING" in our goals but once again looks like a scared little boy. Hazard was our most prominent threat going forward and to say he was awful is far extreme, he impressed me, just wished he put his chances away but at the end of the day no one else apart from Oscar late on looked like scoring. Hazard caused their defence numerous amounts of problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcyWard 13 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Torres looks shot, His touch has deserted him and he has no confidence at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Even though Hazard gave away the ball for their goal, he was easily our best player in the second half, the only one who looked threatening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Hazard gave away the ball for the second goal, and he still got 5 votes for motm, well, 3 came from belgian fans. Oscar scored our goal, but he gave an assist for a Shaktar goal, but the guy missed, he was also far from superb today.Funny thing is, Torres was way worst when he joined us, and back there he got a lot of support and people saying he was playing good. Now he became the new Bosingwa and Anelka: our scapegoat when nothing is working.Torres doesn't need any defending at all, Hazard played well however Henrique, despite that.We need to start controlling games more, still think we need one more player for that double pivot at least, it was very similar to Atletico Madrid defeat, obviously not the scoreline thanks to Cech, just getting overly dominated. No shit like 'it's hard to go to Ukraine', no that's just wrong. We have a very impresive attack but the back can be a let down.T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Not relevant mate, don't get me wrong i agree with you on an extent as there shouldn't be any defendants what so ever. But Kalou was generally bad, he has nothing to his name as an individual, Bosingwa was a good at first and very good before he joined us, but he was consistently shit and was the leak of our defence. As for Torres I'll be honest he's put better performances in than those two, and he was one of the best strikers in the world about 4 year ago.There shouldn't be defenders, but i wouldn't compare them with Bosingwa and Kalou, even on the defendants factor, as Torres has got his fanboys for a reason, even if they do sicken me by supporting this team because of him.I know but they still did more for us than Torres has so far.I remember this bloke that came on this forum after the Reading game (OssiesCorner) slated every one who criticize Torres saying we should support our players no matter what then went and slagged of Sturridge I will support Torres like i do any other player and i did infact praise him after the Arenal-Nord-Norwich matches but the double standards towards him are incredible.Anyway enough on that.On today's match tho i will put it down to a freak, hopefully it will be back to normal against United on Sunday. The one thing i will say tho is compared to 2 years of sitting through Anelkalouda, this season has been absolute heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Lmao Anelkalouda, how i remember that.It's even better combination nowTorres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 He has bad times but He is still great player.Keep calm.Btw We don't buy a new striker, We have Lukaku.Hey guy, this is a serious match thread. Please leave the jokes at the door.Great player my arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Torres doesn't need any defending at all, Hazard played well however Henrique, despite that.We need to start controlling games more, still think we need one more player for that double pivot at least, it was very similar to Atletico Madrid defeat, obviously not the scoreline thanks to Cech, just getting overly dominated. No shit like 'it's hard to go to Ukraine', no that's just wrong. We have a very impresive attack but the back can be a let down.THazard played good if you consider him an avarage player. I expect a lot more from the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Hazard played good if you consider him an avarage player. I expect a lot more from the guy.Someone said his finishing was poor, well whoever that was there right, he missed sitters against QPR as well.Still better than Torres though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Torres looks shot, His touch has deserted him and he has no confidence at all. It's deserted him for the best part of two years. am i the only one who's getting annoyed with all of this confidence bullshit? i thought Torres was decent today, but we're missing a striker like Drogba who thrives on being the main man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Didn't watch the game. A few general thoughts.1) Teams need about 14-15 regular outfield players. Chelsea now seem to have 12. RDM has to work some other players in. You can't play the same starting XI every match.2) In all competitions, in games I haven't watched fully, Chelsea have 1 win, draw and 6 losses. In games I've watched fully, Chelsea have 8 wins, 2 draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Funny thing is, Torres was way worst when he joined us, and back there he got a lot of support and people saying he was playing good. Now he became the new Bosingwa and Anelka: our scapegoat when nothing is working.Because back then the excuses for Torres were genuine. No break for 3 years, players around him off form, still has to settle into London etc etc, we thought with all those on the verge of getting sorted the following summer it was worth being patient and for a while under AVB it looked like we were getting rewarded, only for him to fall deep into another goal drought.He may be performing better now, but still way off the mark of a number one forward, he is performing well in spades, good enough to be a member of the squad (which if he cost £10m from Feyenord that's all he would be) yes, but a number 1 forward? absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Lmao Anelkalouda, how i remember that.It's even better combination nowTorres.That's not a combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 That's not a combination.That was the joke...Instead of trying to look 'cool' or be a 'smart arse' next time get some common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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