Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Ramos is great, but lets not waist our money (well, Roman`s money)!We have 2 extraordinary defenders and a great one (I dont rank David that high) and we got some real young talent.If we really care about our legends and about our academy, Ramos has no space in the squad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Hmmm. Tough one. Sometimes he seems like a great defender. Other times...Well...I would probably welcome him. As a replacement for JT though? Probably not, at least for me. He could go the way of David Luiz. If we buy him, I could see him becoming even more rash and silly in his decision making. I just see a couple of better options. For me Hummels is top of the pile for CB's.Yes I agree, Hummels is a the top. But I admire BVB a lot and I hate to see them weakened. I like to see them challenge Bayern Munich at every instance and the longer they keep their current crop the longer they can continue to win titles in Germany. They are in an incredible period and I'd hate to see end due to the greed of other clubs.I agree with the Luiz comparison however I believe Ramos' concentration levels are superior to Luiz's. Ramos is far more likely to kick someone in the head but at least he doesn't fall asleep and have mind lapses as often as Mr Stickhistongueoutalot.. And Ramos is very flexiable tactically, as he is able to play at Centreback, Fullback and Centre Midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I also think that just playing on teams that dominant can hide defensive weaknesses. Ramos is excellent going forward but he's like Luiz defensively. Make some great plays, but makes silly mistakes too. I think transitioning from Spanish football to English football is harder for defenders than for other players. For some reason, I trust central defenders coming from Germany and Italy much more. (Could be the more physical nature of those games and the skill set defenders need to succeed is more similar to the English game,)I think it's the fact defending is appreciated a lot more in those countries, which leads to a bigger focus on teaching players the art of defending when growing up (youth football). Though Germany hasn't been producing world-class CBs for a long time.Anyway Ramos is good but he's error-prone. He was very good at the Euros though, I'll give him that. But he needs too many fouls and he's a hot head, leading to silly and reckless challenges. And he's not the type of CB we should be looking for imo, we've been in desperate need of a tactician ever since Riccy left. I'd rather go for Hummels, who fits that bill a lot better. He's a better CB than Ramos as well imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Yes I agree, Hummels is a the top. But I admire BVB a lot and I hate to see them weakened. I like to see them challenge Bayern Munich at every instance and the longer they keep their current crop the longer they can continue to win titles in Germany. They are in an incredible period and I'd hate to see end due to the greed of other clubs.I agree with the Luiz comparison however I believe Ramos' concentration levels are superior to Luiz's. Ramos is far more likely to kick someone in the head but at least he doesn't fall asleep and have mind lapses as often as Mr Stickhistongueoutalot.. And Ramos is very flexiable tactically, as he is able to play at Centreback, Fullback and Centre Midfield.Midfield? When has Ramos ever played in midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,513 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Yes I agree, Hummels is a the top. But I admire BVB a lot and I hate to see them weakened. I like to see them challenge Bayern Munich at every instance and the longer they keep their current crop the longer they can continue to win titles in Germany. They are in an incredible period and I'd hate to see end due to the greed of other clubs.I agree with the Luiz comparison however I believe Ramos' concentration levels are superior to Luiz's. Ramos is far more likely to kick someone in the head but at least he doesn't fall asleep and have mind lapses as often as Mr Stickhistongueoutalot.. And Ramos is very flexiable tactically, as he is able to play at Centreback, Fullback and Centre Midfield.If Ramos can play as a CM, then Luiz can play as a DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 If Ramos can play as a CM, then Luiz can play as a DM.Are you sure? Because Luiz loves to roam foward and only at CB is he given the space to roam foward. In the Midfield players are pressed much quicker and are expected to pass the ball quicker, if case you haven't noticed Luiz loves to dawdle on the ball and contemplate his options. At CB usually only the CF presses the CB, and since it usually only one player pressing, it gives the Cb more space and more time to make decisions. I promise you if Luiz was playing at DM/CM it would result in many, many turnovers. Besides, how many really good DMs make Luiz-esque roams foward? Makélélé didn't, Redondo didn't, Gattuso didn't and don't forget players like Yaya Touré and Michael Essien are B2B not DMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Midfield? When has Ramos ever played in midfield?Hasn't he played against Barça a few times in MF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Hasn't he played against Barça a few times in MF?That was Pepe in the DM/CM role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 That was Pepe in the DM/CM roleAaah, my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamiCFC9 258 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 With only 2 transfers Falcao and Ramos we won't need to buy any1 for years and will win everything for years. :dance: :blue scalf: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Said before, no thanks. Price way too high for a defender and don't think we need a controversial character like him in the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 With only 2 transfers Falcao and Ramos we won't need to buy any1 for years and will win everything for years. :dance: :blue scalf:Are you being serious?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 ONCE AGAIN LINKED!http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/391372/Real-Madrid-s-Sergio-Ramos-fuels-speculation-of-Chelsea-movehttp://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/04/12/real-madrid-defender-strongly-linked-with-summer-chelsea-move/https://www.google.com/news?ncl=do3y-hXbzOE1TxMqTFUzS5eQi2RDM&q=sergio+ramos&lr=English&hl=enHe has cut his hair since the last time he was linked with Chelsea. And it's a good thing because he looked stupid with long hair and I would have hated to see those long flowing locks every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 If we get José and Ramos this summer I will get a forever lasting boner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 This guy is a leader (not Terry-esque, but a leader nonetheless) which is what our defence really needs. Pepe plays better when Ramos is partnered with him at centre-back as opposed to his original right-back position. This makes me feel that either Ramos makes the players around him better, or he does actually have decent leadership and communication qualities. I get the feeling the same would happen with Luiz; a young(er) leader beside him with more stamina and agility than our ageing Terry would probably do him the world of good. Luiz - Ramos would be quite an attack-minded centre-back pairing, but a very scary one for the opposition too. Ramos loves scoring from set-pieces while Luiz loves taking set-pieces (which he seems to be improving at game by game.) Sure, we'd all love a playmaker to be deployed deep, which is why as soon as "Jose will bring a Madrid player with him to Stamford Bridge" popped up almost everyone thought "Modric", but even if that deep position is a concern, I've had fears for a very long time about our defence and Ramos would go a long way to lowering my fears and tightening up our defence-play in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenza666 221 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Ramos in the same locker room as Jose ? bahahahahhaha. which 2 characters is Jose wanting to leave Real in the first place. come onnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Is ramos not one of the players speculated to be giving Jose problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Sounds like the media just dug up the previous links that we had and throw our name into the fray for Ramos. Doubt there's anything in that rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 When we were linked with ramos in past there were few different things; Ramos played at Rb and wasnt near as important as this and past year. He has also taken the captain armband in Casillas absence. Secondly, last time we could spend 40mio for him. Nowdays I dont think we can afford 40mio for a CB only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkE 267 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 As I said in the Neymar post.... Ramos...in our team....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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