Leif 6,006 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 And people said Stoke City would be too tough for Oscar. L.to the O.to the.L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I am not so happy.The 3 points are great, but that's clearly not everything that matters.We can't keep playing like this. I know Stoke parked the bus, but we will play against this kind of teams most of the season. We need a decent striker, Moses in the starting team and more ideas when we attack.Playing like how? we had a lot of the ball, but could not get through their 10 defenders - not complaining about their approach, it worked for us last season lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Link to the goal for those interested.http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/14353-goals-and-highlights-gif/page__p__512022#entry512022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 1st half we suffered from being too narrow. But we improved much more in the 2nd half by stretching their defense. Moses was excellent when he came on and gave their fullbacks lots of problems which they never had in the first half.The only thing that stopped it making look like an incompetent performance by many neutral and opposition fans was that we lacked that final killer instinct. The front four look good but I would like them to make more runs into the box once they pass it and Torres needs to stop being to static and stay in the box, again h kept going too deep or too wide.The partnership of Mikel and Ramires was very solid. Unlike QPR or Juventus Stoke never had any good periods where they completely dominated us. We had much more possesion and if we can create more chances and have a bigger killer instinct, then I see good things for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Unsurprising problems based on the starting XI. We were way to narrow, Mata, Oscar, Hazard, and Torres basically all played in the same spot which made us very easy to defend against. This made us rely on Cole and Ivanovic to give us width. After Moses came on, our spacing was much better.But even with Width - we have no Aerial threat in the box.If you mean to create more space in the centre - then sure - I agree I thought the tactics were spot-on, we were unlcuky a few times and on a different day this could have been 3-0 to us...Stoke never really troubled us and the TEAM is looking much more balanced with this line-up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atwa 78 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Stoke is always a though opponent, therefor I am happy with the result.Ramires/Mikel is much better than Mikel/Lampard at least. Mata/Hazard/Oscar worked well, though lacks a bit of width.Torres was again very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Just look over the years and our games against Stoke, except for that 7-0 it's always difficult against them no matter how we play or the team we use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 Unconvincing performance but relieve to get that vital 3 points. Can now sit back and watch Liverpool v Man United and Man City v Arsenal with a peace of mind. At least 2 is gonna drop point. A Liverpool win and a draw at the Etihad would be the best results for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfricanBlue 104 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I was really impressed with Moses, exactly what you want from an impact sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,917 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Torres looked like he just didn't give a fuck. When he gets the ball now I just EXPECT him to carelessly lose it.You know it'll be a bad match for him when you start seeing him pop up continuously out wide. I love him, but my patience has just about worn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Yes we struggled a bit but really over the moon with the win! Not playing well yet getting the points...The sign of champions, eh?Ramires was impressive in the double pivot and I hope he never gets put back in the wing again. He belongs in the middle of the park. I love how he is a ball-getter and harrasser. He does commit some fouls and his passing can be a bit sloppy but overall he is such a good choice alongside Mikel. He needs to start the big games there ahead of Lampard for sure. Oscar, Mata and Hazard will need more time to develop an understanding. In the 2nd half I thought Hazard and Oscar were straying wider, perhaps an instruction from RDM. They should work together in training. They will only get better as a supply line. The main thing RDM needs to tell them is they need to do a job out wide. They will all get time in the middle. Torres was non existent. He is getting quite annoying. Never where you need him. Doesn't shoot. Doesn't do much of anything. I think Moses or Sturridge can be better options.Also glad to see Mata provide Ash with the assist. We were expecting some brilliance from Hazard or Oscar (both who have had brilliant starts to the season and all the spotlight on them) but it was our original creative spark, Mata who came up with the goods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Boy wasn't that a relief. My weekend should fly by in a much happier mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Torres looked like he just didn't give a fuck. When he gets the ball now I just EXPECT him to carelessly lose it.You know it'll be a bad match for him when you start seeing him pop up continuously out wide.I love him, but my patience has just about worn out.Yeah well do what I now do...Expect fuck all from him - except the odd 'good' pass - and life is easier... I just mentally change Torres to Kalou in my head and then I can enjoy the whole game without being annoyed or angry... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Playing like how? we had a lot of the ball, but could not get through their 10 defenders - not complaining about their approach, it worked for us last season lol.Playing like 4 shoots on target and without any ideas against a well organized defence.We had a lot of the ball. So what? I'm just worried about the future, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hysteria 159 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Good result, Stoke is always tought.I really like Ramires today, i think he did very well with Mikel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Ramires and Mikel were really solid in DM, pleased with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut_Blues 306 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 1-0 victory, I love it! Voted Oscar cuz he showed his incredible attacking work rate plus he goes back and defends when necessary.... really glad Oscar is in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnske64 14 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Let's all take a moment and laugh at the bottom three on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Don't care what other fans say, this was a great 3 points. This isn't just any average team, this is Stoke, you have to have a different plan for these ones. 3 points is a very good result and I'm happy we've grinded a result out for once in this league, we haven't done that in a while.But it's not like we played bad, our play was amazing i thought first 60 minutes the passing was just class, but Stoke are massive and were just defending, and if we of had a good fucking striker we would of been much more of a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 The lineup is something that I want RDM to try and it looks like playing our 3 magicians make us too narrow. and moses on the right or left is a must because it gives our magicians more space to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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