BOSS 372 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Just start this RDMSturridgeMata-Oscar-HazardRomeu-RamiresCole-Cahill-Luiz-IvaCech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Why are you still on our forum? What compels someone to (pathetically) linger around on another team's forum? Do you have nothing better to do? Our match is over. You can now log off and return to a Juve forum.ad hominem ad hominemad hominem ad hominem ad hominem ad hominemWhy can you not come up with a constructive discussion or answer, why must you resort to this? When did you start following football may I ask, kind sir. I have been a member here since 2009 Orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Lampard had the most k's run in your team, I doubt he did no defensive work.Get used to it mate, most of our fans sadly only see what they want to see and right now 'Lampard is no good' is a popular theme here.Just read back a bit and you'll see people saying that it is his fault that the double pivot didn't work yesterday and we were playing 4-3-3!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Lampard had the most k's run in your team, I doubt he did no defensive work.Agreed sometimes wonder what people are thinking. Guess they jump on bandwagons without looking at the game. We played More of a 4-4-1-1 last night to combat your higher numbers in midfield (you hold your shape very well). Our problem was in possession we should have played wider, exploited the three at the back, giving Torres more space to work in.We maybe just edged the game but I'm talking 52-48. Your a very good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 ad hominem ad hominemad hominem ad hominem ad hominem ad hominemWhy can you not come up with a constructive discussion or answer, why must you resort to this? When did you start following football may I ask, kind sir.No answer? I thought so. Plenty of Juve forums. Go sign up for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Why are you still on our forum? What compels someone to (pathetically) linger around on another team's forum? Do you have nothing better to do? Our match is over. You can now log off and return to a Juve forum.You don't run this site. You have no right to tell anyone that they cannot be on this forum. We built this site for all fans, and I would almost guarantee his knowledge of Chelsea football club would be better then yours. You have petty come backs for everything and hardly reply with anything worth wild to read. Everytime he has tried discussing something with you, you have come back with a childish remark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Just start this RDMSturridgeMata-Oscar-HazardRomeu-RamiresCole-Cahill-Luiz-IvaCechYou cannot play that against quality opposition from the get go. Ramires is not disciplined enough to play that holding role and Romeu is still raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 ad hominem ad hominemad hominem ad hominem ad hominem ad hominemWhy can you not come up with a constructive discussion or answer, why must you resort to this? When did you start following football may I ask, kind sir. I have been a member here since 2009 Orange.Well mate you did not come up with an conclusion that Lampard did more defensive work than Oscar. Oscar had more tackles and better passes + he maintained possesion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Just start this RDMSturridgeMata-Oscar-HazardRomeu-RamiresCole-Cahill-Luiz-IvaCechFuck no, Ramirez can't play in the pivot. He is not technical good enough, his strength is that he is an incredible athlete, would suit a 4-3-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shulz 23 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Why? Mate Lampard did not do any defensive work. And what about your defence. I am sure we would have scored more goals. We would have more possesion and more pace.I kinda liked Ramires on the wing, he's not Mata or Hazard but he gives great balance in the defensive phase, he slides back to form a 3 men midfield.. we had a similar situation a couple years back playing with Krasic and Marchisio on the wings. of course Marchisio was not the best for the role but it was necessary to release Krasic from most defensive tasks, like you do with the others offensive midfielders(not yesterday, Oscar had to be close to Pirlo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Agreed sometimes wonder what people are thinking. Guess they jump on bandwagons without looking at the game. We played More of a 4-4-1-1 last night to combat your higher numbers in midfield (you hold your shape very well). Our problem was in possession we should have played wider, exploited the three at the back, giving Torres more space to work in.We maybe just edged the game but I'm talking 52-48.Your a very good team.It was a close game and the result was fair, I walked away happy. We didn't put our heads down, hopefully we both qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 You cannot play that against quality opposition from the get go. Ramires is not disciplined enough to play that holding role and Romeu is still raw.Romeu > Mikel and you're saying that Lampard is better than Ramires as a defensive midfielder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Fuck no, Ramirez can't play in the pivot. He is not technical good enough, his strength is that he is an incredible athlete, would suit a 4-3-3.Lool did you see the Brazil game? He was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Or a lack of space to run into. People complain about him drifting wide, well he was up against three central defenders and Ramirez and Hazard never stretched the defence by hugging the touch lines. Where was he supposed to go? Would have been crowded out in the centre of the pitch, especially with Juve having 3 cms.Watch falcao, This is his style of play.1. he comes deep to recieve the pass, passes it, then makes a run foward for the through pass or cross2. He could also stand with the defender raise his hands just up for the midfielder to give him the through ball and start making a run for the pass. (even when the midfielder doesnt give he doesnt just dissapear but tries again)3. When he is marked he pulls the defenders away and PASSES THE BALL TO THE WINGER OR MIDFIELDER and runs back incase of a one two.4. The last time i remember torres making a run to recieve a pass is against newcastle and hazard passed to him.5. Torres holds the ball for too long, he should pass and make the runIf you were a midfielder you will have no idea how to play with torres because he doesnt have a particular style of play.He used to make runs in liverpool and gerrad finds him with long balls but now he just stands straight. Only big strikers like Drogba and Ibrahimovic should stand straight and recieve ball since they are big enough to not fall down all the time like torres Torres must make runs or will score few goals fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Well mate you did not come up with an conclusion that Lampard did more defensive work than Oscar. Oscar had more tackles and better passes + he maintained possesion.Playing behind the striker, it is a completely different role! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Playing behind the striker, it is a completely different role!Yet he provided more defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Romeu > Mikel and you're saying that Lampard is better than Ramires as a defensive midfielder?Romeu is not better than Mikel, he has not shown enough just yet. Ramires is not disciplined enough to play the CM role. I would trust Lamps there more so at least until you get a CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Romeu > Mikel and you're saying that Lampard is better than Ramires as a defensive midfielder?Do you read what he types Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Yet he provided more defensivelyIt is a free role, you have to be more disciplined playing as CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Romeu is not better than Mikel, he has not shown enough just yet. Ramires is not disciplined enough to play the CM role. I would trust Lamps there more so at least until you get a CM.Well i'll end this discussion here its going nowhere to say that Lampard would provide more than Ramires as a CM is crazy but yeh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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