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9 hours ago, Jason said:

Have you forgotten Nasri, Van Persie? Can never rule out anything with Arsenal.

Well Nasri never moved to a direct rival...he just chose money (just like Adebayor, Hleb, Song, Cesc).

As for Van Persie, he wasn't a bright talent, he was a often-injured 30 year old looking to win a title. 

I'd be shocked if Arsenal let the Ox move to Chelsea...as our last major transfer with them was 11 years ago!

 

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2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Well Nasri never moved to a direct rival...he just chose money (just like Adebayor, Hleb, Song, Cesc).

As for Van Persie, he wasn't a bright talent, he was a often-injured 30 year old looking to win a title. 

I'd be shocked if Arsenal let the Ox move to Chelsea...as our last major transfer with them was 11 years ago!

 

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RVP wasn't talented? He's one of Arsenal's all time top goalscorers. He was excellent. 

And Cech didn't transfer across town eleven years ago.

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8 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Well Nasri never moved to a direct rival...he just chose money (just like Adebayor, Hleb, Song, Cesc).

As for Van Persie, he wasn't a bright talent, he was a often-injured 30 year old looking to win a title. 

I'd be shocked if Arsenal let the Ox move to Chelsea...as our last major transfer with them was 11 years ago!

Nasri joined City and that's not moving to a direct rival?

Since when Fabregas chose to move because of money? He was frustrated by Arsenal's lack of success and wanted to return to Barcelona.

Van Persie wasn't a bright talent? He was one of the clinical strikers around and his goals were the only reason why United won the title in 2012/13.

Cech's move to Arsenal wasn't a major transfer? It didn't involve a lot of money but it was still big letting arguably our best goalkeeper joined a direct rival.

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People seem to forget Moses has only played one season at RWB, he's not even a defender. Other right backs/wing backs have played that role for years, so people are unnecessarily judgmental on Moses. I think Tomori would be a great RWB if given the chance, mainly because he's always played as a defender and has a defender's mindset. He also played RB earlier in his youth career. 

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4 hours ago, Jason said:

Nasri joined City and that's not moving to a direct rival?

Since when Fabregas chose to move because of money? He was frustrated by Arsenal's lack of success and wanted to return to Barcelona.

Van Persie wasn't a bright talent? He was one of the clinical strikers around and his goals were the only reason why United won the title in 2012/13.

Cech's move to Arsenal wasn't a major transfer? It didn't involve a lot of money but it was still big letting arguably our best goalkeeper joined a direct rival.

LOL Jason, I didn't expect this type of reply from you..

1) City and Arsenal were never rivals...there was never 'hate' between the clubs apart from the whole Adebayor celebration. 

2) A 30 year old striker is not a bright talent...so I'm not sure what you mean.  There is a difference between signing a 23 year old homegrown youngster who can play a key role for 10 years...and a 30 year with 1-2 years left in the tank. 

3) Cech to Arsenal wasn't a major transfer, he was a great goalkeeper past his peak who preferred to stay in London for his family...  If we didn't have an equally-good keeper waiting in the wings, then maybe it would have been a major transfer..

Anyway, back to the topic at hand...hopefully we can sign someone capable of challenging/displacing Moses from that RWB role. 

 

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He has alarming low IQ. I just can't understand how player can't grasp offside rule.

He's very, very good squad player. Costs next to nothing on FFP books, home-grown, relatively low wages. Athletic and good experience, in his prime years. But he should only be squad player.

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49 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said:

He has alarming low IQ. I just can't understand how player can't grasp offside rule.

He's very, very good squad player. Costs next to nothing on FFP books, home-grown, relatively low wages. Athletic and good experience, in his prime years. But he should only be squad player.

Agreed,  he is VERY average, and i thought that Azpi provided much more of an outlet today with his crossing.

Moses infuriates me, the only thing he does decently is dribbling and even at that he is not that good, we need new WB´s BADLY

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1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

1) City and Arsenal were never rivals...there was never 'hate' between the clubs apart from the whole Adebayor celebration. 

There needs to be 'hate' between two clubs to be considered rivals? That's new!

Arsenal and Man City are clubs considered to be challengers for the league title and they are pretty much title rivals even if there's no hate.

1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

2) A 30 year old striker is not a bright talent...so I'm not sure what you mean.  There is a difference between signing a 23 year old homegrown youngster who can play a key role for 10 years...and a 30 year with 1-2 years left in the tank.

So you're basically saying that once you hit 30 years old, your talent goes out of the window? :doh: Regardless of the age, Van Persie was still one the deadliest strikers around and he had more in him than just scoring goals. Arsenal practically handed the title to United when they sold him to them.

1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

3) Cech to Arsenal wasn't a major transfer, he was a great goalkeeper past his peak who preferred to stay in London for his family...  If we didn't have an equally-good keeper waiting in the wings, then maybe it would have been a major transfer..

It's really a surprise that you're dishing out such logic...

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3 hours ago, Polo7 said:

Has been average since end of last season. Really need new fullbacks !! Urgently.

When I said Azpilicueta should take over from Moses in the RWB role, my friends keep telling me Moses is better in the wingback positions. Everyone says Azpi can't play there and I think it's a baseless suggestion. Just because Azpilicueta is so good in the RCB role doesn't mean he can’t do better in the wingback role, just because he was good at LB for mourinho doesn't mean he can’t be better in the right back position. Azpi got more assists last season than Moses from centerback and similar goals even. 

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15 minutes ago, Mufassir08 said:

Not his god awful crossing or foul throws?

His foul throws are just weird. How can you be a pro footballer and not know how to take a throw in???? :D
His crossing is on and off, but his shooting has been consistently bad. He always seems to try the same shot when he really has a scoring chance (sidefoot shot) and it usually goes straight to the keeper.

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