Oscar

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-chelsea-transfer-news-spurs-1984969

We pinched Oscar from QPR? QPR??!!! :lol:

[TrippingStep 336]

If you're going to judge Oscar's influence using stats then you should just sell him now. Yeah he'll get the stats but he's more of an Iniesta (+Ramires ) type player, where he'll instinctively pass and move, and set the tempo unlike Mata who is so direct in the final third. Oscar should be judged on his passes, pass completion, his touches, his heat map showing how much he was involved. He is the man who will make the pass before the assist not necessarily the assist (that's Mata or Hazard most often). And, nothing wrong with this, this is where he's best at imo, at least better than the other 2 amigos imo.

I wouldn't compare Oscar to Iniesta. Iniesta has better first touch and carries the ball better. Iniesta has an ability to draw defenders and still be in control, making space for other with a little burst of speed.

I've not seen the match but seeing Alaba scoring two goals, I guess Iniesta has opened huge space for Alaba coming from behind.

For me Hazard is more like Iniesta, he's better when playing a bit deeper, closer to the midfield like under Benitez and has the ability to draw defenders, carries the ball into positions to leave space from a guy running from behind. Often the games I liked the most from Hazard where games when he had not assists or goals but was letting other players in great positions to finish the actions.

[Strike 7,286]

Oscar should be our playmaker CM if we don't sign any clear-cut midfield starters this summer. A midfield duo (because I hate that p-word people use too much) with Oscar will work well because he has the foot-work and balance to get past opposition mids and run at their defence.

If we don't get an established playmaker, I think signing a DM and pairing him with Oscar can work. He's not in the Isco/Gotze mould who can be effective on the flanks. He's more in the Modric/Thiago mould who can operate well in a CM role

[Mouri_Matic 560]

He is tired now, after this tournament I hope Jose let him rest and use Kevin/Schurrle a lot, I wouldn't mind if Oscar is a sub until September when he will probably recovers and could be at his best again.

[Jase 43,479]

Oscar should be our playmaker CM if we don't sign any clear-cut midfield starters this summer. A midfield duo (because I hate that p-word people use too much) with Oscar will work well because he has the foot-work and balance to get past opposition mids and run at their defence.

If we don't get an established playmaker, I think signing a DM and pairing him with Oscar can work. He's not in the Isco/Gotze mould who can be effective on the flanks. He's more in the Modric/Thiago mould who can operate well in a CM role

Lets not get too carried away. Offensive wise, playing Oscar in the pivot () may seem tempting and like a good move but defensively, we still don't know how will he cope there. He may have performed decently defensively when playing elsewhere but question should be there on whether he can play in pivot effectively, both offensively and defensively given he isn't exactly the biggest or strongest of players in regards to physical strength.

[Strike 7,286]

Lets not get too carried away. Offensive wise, playing Oscar in the pivot ( ) may seem tempting and like a good move but defensively, we still don't know how will he cope there. He may have performed decently defensively when playing elsewhere but question should be there on whether he can play in pivot effectively, both offensively and defensively given he isn't exactly the biggest or strongest of players in regards to physical strength.

He doesn't have the greatest physical strength but he's a hard-worker and has constantly surprised me by his balance and strength -remember him bullying Anderson shoulder-to-shoulder.

Not saying it's great or anything but he isn't a passenger in midfield like Mata is. He can do a good pressing job. With defensive security alongside him, he will do well in the (ugh) pivot. I think CM is a better position for him than out wide

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

If you're going to judge Oscar's influence using stats then you should just sell him now. Yeah he'll get the stats but he's more of an Iniesta (+Ramires ) type player, where he'll instinctively pass and move, and set the tempo unlike Mata who is so direct in the final third. Oscar should be judged on his passes, pass completion, his touches, his heat map showing how much he was involved. He is the man who will make the pass before the assist not necessarily the assist (that's Mata or Hazard most often). And, nothing wrong with this, this is where he's best at imo, at least better than the other 2 amigos imo.

Iniesta and Ramires are both central midfielders. Oscar is an attacking midfielder. Their jobs are fundementally different. Oscar is in dangerous positions much more often, shoots more, and should be the guy getting the assist and scoring and he wasn't. His work rate and defensive work are both very good, but he needs to take a step up this year to be good enough to start regularly for Chelsea. Given his age and his inexperience in the Premier League going into the year, I fully expect this to happen.

[Jase 43,479]

He doesn't have the greatest physical strength but he's a hard-worker and has constantly surprised me by his balance and strength -remember him bullying Anderson shoulder-to-shoulder.

Agree with the qualities mentioned but his defensive abilities in the pivot can't be judged on 1 midfield battle against Anderson, who is mostly not at 100% in a season anyway.

Not saying it's great or anything but he isn't a passenger in midfield like Mata is. He can do a good pressing job. With defensive security alongside him, he will do well in the (ugh) pivot. I think CM is a better position for him than out wide

Pressing is one thing but it's another thing being able to be aggressive and tackle consistently when needed.

[Strike 7,286]

Agree with the qualities mentioned but his defensive abilities in the pivot can't be judged on 1 midfield battle against Anderson, who is mostly not at 100% in a season anyway.

Pressing is one thing but it's another thing being able to be aggressive and tackle consistently when needed.

Well it's not just Anderson but yeah, still unproven in that sense

His best position is locked by Mata. It's either the wings/Attacking Mid or in the deeper midfield role where Oscar will get continuous starts.

[Jase 43,479]

Well it's not just Anderson but yeah, still unproven in that sense

His best position is locked by Mata. It's either the wings/Attacking Mid or in the deeper midfield role where Oscar will get continuous starts.

Yup. Agree with that. I too wanna see Oscar being tried out in the pivot ( ) but till that happens, I still question whether defensively, he can fit in there.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Well, defensively, stats are on his side. Didn't he make our second most tackles last season? His work rate and tactical maturity also favour him. I agree that he's not nailed on to be successful there but it's definitely more favourable that he will... Again though, it remains to be seen.

[Barbara 15,149]

to the few of you that can understand portuguese or everyone who trusts google translate

Oscar vira craque na defesa e grosso no ataque

Oscar a monster in defense and terrible on attack (In CC)

Stats:

22 interceptions, second in the team only after Daniel Alves 26

2 shots to the goal in three matches

67% accuracy on passes - which were mainly passes to defensive players in Brazil's defense zone.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

to the few of you that can understand portuguese or everyone who trusts google translate

Oscar vira craque na defesa e grosso no ataque

Oscar a monster in defense and terrible on attack (In CC)

Stats:

22 interceptions, second in the team only after Daniel Alves 26

2 shots to the goal in three matches

67% accuracy on passes - which were mainly passes to defensive players in Brazil's defense zone.

Yeah, he's looked tired and out of it past 2 games. MOM for the first one though.

[Land 331]

He is the player with most games played this season.

[nono 791]

He is not really a good passer. I remember that horrific pass he gave straight to City in the postseason friendly.

[The Skipper 20,593]

He is not really a good passer. I remember that horrific pass he gave straight to City in the postseason friendly.

[Shane 2,275]

He is not really a good passer. I remember that horrific pass he gave straight to City in the postseason friendly.

He gave away the ball in a postseason friendly

OSCAR OUT!

[Strike 7,286]

He is not really a good passer. I remember that horrific pass he gave straight to City in the postseason friendly.

I know you're giving your general opinion and it's not just based on 1 or 2 passes but it is just wrong in my view