Oscar

[zolayes 14,489]

I think she's trying to say some of us dislike Oscar, not because he's an average and inconsistent footballer, but because of something he's unable to change...

I'll let you figure it out. :tophat:

so he is a leopard and can't change his spots ,,,, Thanks ...Actually I like him. Are you sure she meant Oscar and not Jose ?

[termninja 5,290]

What we are missing is the combination of Willian and Oscar pressing . We are allowing other teams the freedom to attack us at ease

What are we missing can be put into one word - balls. Everybody so afraid of losing, beating a man, making mistake blablabla... Grow them back and try again! That's how I do it at least.

[zolayes 14,489]

What are we missing can be put into one word - balls. Everybody so afraid of losing, beating a man, making mistake blablabla... Grow them back and try again! That's how I do it at least.A

Ask what or who is causing the fear ?

[Barbara 15,149]

Very cryptic.

it was meant to... the ones who feel the way I think they do will know what I meant...

But what about all the rest? Care to refute everything I said about Willian being our second best player when we sucked or about the team playing its best collective football whenever Oscar was playing well? Both things can't be a coincidence if it keeps happening for long stretches of time.

[Bl33D BlUe 16]

I don't care we sign anyone in the transfer window but I pray to god that Oscar should be fit from his mysterious problem and back in the team sheet against Everton. We really need his linkup play and passes

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

Look, I've never been a big Oscar fan, but after all the debates regarding his consistency and lack of a pre-season, I think it's just best to wait till the end of the season and if he manages to perform consistently throughout the year then no problem. If he doesn't, it's fair to say Oscar wasted his last chance and desrves to be sold.

[Muzchap 8,966]

it was meant to... the ones who feel the way I think they do will know what I meant...

But what about all the rest? Care to refute everything I said about Willian being our second best player when we sucked or about the team playing its best collective football whenever Oscar was playing well? Both things can't be a coincidence if it keeps happening for long stretches of time.

Very similar contrast of Willian to Mata - our best player for 2 absolute shite seasons

Willian will always try hard - but is not good enough for fluid attacks or counter attacks

I do miss Oscar - when is he back?!?

[Duppy Conqueror 1,532]

Oscar is our tempo setter,our risk taker..our bongo drum..

[termninja 5,290]

Ask what or who is causing the fear ?

This is the main mistake people make (and in life also).

There isn't a single answer, it's a reaction to various factors.

* Pressure from being champs

* Higher league quality

* Short pre season

* Costa's fitness

* Oscar's injury

* Unlucky

* Predictable

* Scandal with medical staff

* Uncertainty about player future (Oscar, Willian, Ramires, Cuadrado, Ivanovic, Remy)

* bit of individual mistakes

And there you have it, confidence is gone.

Massive mistake fans make is trying to blame our bad results on one or two factors mentioned above.

It's all of those COMBINED that are doing this to us, and time will fix most of those problems very nicely.

[Barbara 15,149]

Very similar contrast of Willian to Mata - our best player for 2 absolute shite seasons

Willian will always try hard - but is not good enough for fluid attacks or counter attacks

I do miss Oscar - when is he back?!?

have no idea, there's nothing in Brazilian media about his recovery

[BlueLyon 9,359]

You know Real madrid didnt knew what Makelele offers so they sold him. But soon the rest of the team become shit. Maka wasnt some flashy player, but he was vital. He was vital despite being invisible in games. He made others be able to do their job.

I dont say that Oscar is on same level as Maka. But he might have some similar impact on our team. All we know we played the best football when Oscar was on fire in first half of last season. He turned shit and rest of team didnt have the same balance and control either after. Costa was less efficient, Cesc out of depth, Matic...

I think Oscars pressing is helping Matic, the way he goes in middle to pick the ball, and connect with attack helps Cesc, the way he moves in attack, drags on players, makes simple yet key passes helps our attack. And he adds couple of goals and assists on top.

Yes our form is not the best and Oscar is not sole reason, but maybe Oscar in best form is what the real key for this team is. He might not be the motor of team, but someone who makes the motor click and work properly.

I know this sounds a bit silly, but never underestimate the impact of a player just because he isnt flashy.

[lionsden 4,689]

You know Real madrid didnt knew what Makelele offers so they sold him. But soon the rest of the team become shit. Maka wasnt some flashy player, but he was vital. He was vital despite being invisible in games. He made others be able to do their job.

I dont say that Oscar is on same level as Maka. But he might have some similar impact on our team. All we know we played the best football when Oscar was on fire in first half of last season. He turned shit and rest of team didnt have the same balance and control either after. Costa was less efficient, Cesc out of depth, Matic...

I think Oscars pressing is helping Matic, the way he goes in middle to pick the ball, and connect with attack helps Cesc, the way he moves in attack, drags on players, makes simple yet key passes helps our attack. And he adds couple of goals and assists on top.

Yes our form is not the best and Oscar is not sole reason, but maybe Oscar in best form is what the real key for this team is. He might not be the motor of team, but someone who makes the motor click and work properly.

I know this sounds a bit silly, but never underestimate the impact of a player just because he isnt flashy.

You are overestimating Oscars influence (if you can call it that) in the team big time here. we have lost/drawn and/or played like absolute crap in many games that oscar has played in and he has actually been one of the worst players on the pitch in some of those games, he's known as mr inconsistent for a reason.

There are many reasons for our poor form but oscar isn't one. far from it. I can give you reasons like key players out of form, Jose's team selections and persistence with under-performing players, rubbish tactics, lack of a balanced and functioning central midfield, our luck of getting away with bad performances finally running out and so on.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

You are overestimating Oscars influence (if you can call it that) in the team big time here. we have lost/drawn and/or played like absolute crap in many games that oscar has played in and he has actually been one of the worst players on the pitch in some of those games, he's known as mr inconsistent for a reason.

There are many reasons for our poor form but oscar isn't one. far from it. I can give you reasons like key players out of form, Jose's team selections and persistence with under-performing players, rubbish tactics, lack of a balanced and functioning central midfield, our luck of getting away with bad performances finally running out and so on.

Cesc is as inconsistent as Oscar yet no one mentioned it till recently. But he was same last year. As was Costa.

Oscar gets way too much trashing on here, Im not saying he is the sole reason why we play bad, but his role is still underrated by many here.

When all our players are in form, Oscar is definately among starters.

He has been inconsistent as fuck indeed, but he is one of players that has better intelligence, movement and tactical understanding than majority of our players if not all. Something that is crucial for buildup, yet you cant put it on youtube highlights or even see when watching game unless focus on Oscar only.

[yuvala 2,167]

Cesc is as inconsistent as Oscar yet no one mentioned it till recently. But he was same last year. As was Costa.

Oscar gets way too much trashing on here, Im not saying he is the sole reason why we play bad, but his role is still underrated by many here.

When all our players are in form, Oscar is definately among starters.

He has been inconsistent as fuck indeed, but he is one of players that has better intelligence, movement and tactical understanding than majority of our players if not all. Something that is crucial for buildup, yet you cant put it on youtube highlights or even see when watching game unless focus on Oscar only.

I agree but I think the main difference for most people is Oscar being here for like what now? 3 seasons ? now starting his fourth. Cesc and Diego however - it's only their 2nd season.

[iseah100 5,612]

IS he healthy now??