🇧🇷 Oscar

[OhForAGreavsie 6,072]

Without OSCAR our team doesn't work - it's as simple as that for me!

Yes he is sometimes a frustrating player - but he glues the team together and sets the tone for passing and tackling.

Long may it continue

I pretty much agree with you but I would paint the picture a bit differently. I'd say that Oscar is not good enough to be our permanent number 10 but, for now, he is the best ten we have and our team is better with him. I hope all those who have been championing Willian's case to be our ten, are beginning to agree that while Willian undoubtedly looks better than Oscar, he virtually always achieves less.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

I think Oscar done well but people really overrate his performances. Maccabi are awful and any player playing that day would have excelled. Willian was excellent during the game, like everyone else. We would have battered them with or without Oscar. They were that awful. Arsenal, defensively he impressed me with 2 great slide tackles but was frustrating on an offensive POV. But he done well but we were mainly helped by the red card tbh. That is what influenced the game.

I think the one thing when Oscar plays for us is that the midfield players link better together, he usually is key to that but he still needs to improve his goals/assists and also at times he can still have a better impact on games.

[Henrique 9,133]

your hatred towards Costa makes you come out with stupid comments like this. Costa's finishing and movement are levels above Hulk. I watched Hulk yesterday against Amkar Perm, he was awful.

last season

Hulk - 15 goals in 28 games - 109 shots - 54% shot accuracy

Costa - 20 goals in 26 games - 76 shots - 64% shot accuracy

and I dont need to tell you which of them plays in the weakest league.

I don't need to tell you who plays for the weaker team. Hulk can give more for your team than Costa. Hulk is better than Costa.

[Oscar 441]

Honestly, EPL would be perfect for Hulk in his prime...

He had everything you knew in an EPL player. Overrated, but doesn't mean he can't produce stats and score goals...

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Ffs not Hulk again. The most overrated footballer that has probably been linked to Chelsea for god knows how many years.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

I don't need to tell you who plays for the weaker team. Hulk can give more for your team than Costa. Hulk is better than Costa.

Hulk is worse in the air then Costa, worse hold up play, he also had a lower pass % then Costa last season, and is a much worse finisher then Costa.

[lucio 5,418]

your hatred towards Costa makes you come out with stupid comments like this. Costa's finishing and movement are levels above Hulk. I watched Hulk yesterday against Amkar Perm, he was awful.

last season

Hulk - 15 goals in 28 games - 109 shots - 54% shot accuracy

Costa - 20 goals in 26 games - 76 shots - 64% shot accuracy

and I dont need to tell you which of them plays in the weakest league.

Did you see him vs valencia? He was unstoppable.

Not his biggest fan though

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Did you see him vs valencia? He was unstoppable.

Not his biggest fan though

yes that doesn't make him a great player though.

[Barbara 15,149]

discussing Hulk and Costa on Oscar's thread. At least those are players I don't think have been discussed here as they aren't even AMs

[Stats 7,142]

Thought all the ams played decent... Not to great, not to bad.

Still, they are all a level or more below David Silva's play.... When KDB play behind the striker, he was quite invisible and when he was on the flanks he seem to play much better.... However, this isn't wolfsburg where he is MR. everything.

15 assists the whole season will never happen, let alone just the epl season, since he will not take even half the set pieces and City don't play counter football...

I would predict 5 goals and 5 assists, unless he is given all the set piece responsibility....Granted your not the main cog to the team and option number 4-5, 5g and 5assist is reasonable output (however, not reasonable for the transfer fee).

PEP scouted Oscar when he was in brazil to join barcelona and wanted him there when he was a teenager. However, at the time, Pep nor barca could make guarantees about his playing time..

Oscar fit's pep because he provides balance to neymar and is key to ball retention and pressing, which are 2 things pep requires in all his players.

Mahrez doesn't play for a big team, Sterling does. Things change when you go on a big team as Sterling is realizing and KDB will realize soon. It's one thing to play for Liverpool, it's another thing to play for Man City.

You never watched Ganso play and say he's overrated. Coutinho, like Ganso will be dropped from the national team once felipe anderson transfers out to a big team and fernando does well at sampordia... So, coutinho will end up like Ganso, forever gone from BRazil national team... SO, Coutinho gets glory when they win and zero fault when they lose, yet Oscar is always the main culprit to chelsea's failure... HAHAHA

You like the knee-jerk reactions so here is my turn. Another quality game by KDB. Goal and assist and Sterling also had a goal and virtually 2 assists. So KDB right now has 2 goals and 1 assist and really should have had 2 assists if Navas could finish properly. Sterling is on 2 goals and 3 assists. I think KDB is going to surpass the tally you predicted by miles and remember you said in all comps. I look forward to it

And as for saying Wolfsburg looking better without KDB got battered by Bayern. Apart from the quality goal they scored and an error made by Neuer they looked lost completely. As the season goes on I think you will find out how much they miss him. They will do well. Just not as well as they did last season without KDB.

Let's see how KDB performs against Spurs...

[Spike 12,049]

discussing Hulk and Costa on Oscar's thread. At least those are players I don't think have been discussed here as they aren't even AMs

Off topic discussion is only fun when We Hate Scouse is involved.

[Oscar 441]

You like the knee-jerk reactions so here is my turn. Another quality game by KDB. Goal and assist and Sterling also had a goal and virtually 2 assists. So KDB right now has 2 goals and 1 assist and really should have had 2 assists if Navas could finish properly. Sterling is on 2 goals and 3 assists. I think KDB is going to surpass the tally you predicted by miles and remember you said in all comps. I look forward to it

And as for saying Wolfsburg looking better without KDB got battered by Bayern. Apart from the quality goal they scored and an error made by Neuer they looked lost completely. As the season goes on I think you will find out how much they miss him. They will do well. Just not as well as they did last season without KDB.

Let's see how KDB performs against Spurs...

Think your the one with the knee jerk reaction. 5 goals and 5 assists in the epl was my prediction.

He has 1 goal and 0 assist so far.

I bet you didn't watch the wolfsburg game. Wolfsburg played well against Munich and than something called Lewandowski happened. When the greatest ten minutes of individual brillance happens, hard to win....

[iseah100 5,612]

5 goals and 5 assists in the epl was my prediction.

He has 1 goal and 0 assist so far.

I bet you didnt watch the wolfsburg game. Wolfsburg played well against Munich and than something called Lewandowski happened.

Wolfsburg played as well as you can vs Bayern in the first half. They'll be just fine without KDB

[Oscar 441]

Wolfsburg played as well as you can vs Bayern in the first half. They'll be just fine without KDB

exactly. if you saw the game, wolfsburg played great, than Robert came on and destroyed dante/naldo.

It's funny, dante was part of the germany massacre and now the polish one

[Stats 7,142]

Think your the one with the knee jerk reaction. 5 goals and 5 assists in the epl was my prediction.

He has 1 goal and 0 assist so far.

I bet you didn't watch the wolfsburg game. Wolfsburg played well against Munich and than something called Lewandowski happened. When the greatest ten minutes of individual brillance happens, hard to win....

But then look at created chances over the season too. Aguero is the only clinical finisher there in that starting 11. KDB made 2 very good passes against Palace.

And I watched all of the game. They were defensively solid but apart from the goal and the Neuer thing I mentioned they rarely did anything going forward. Draxler had a decent shot and yeah that was about it all game. Last season they put in a much better performance all game and were unlucky to lose that. The only thing Wolfsburg done really today was contain them after the goal then they offered nothing going forward. Only 2 shots on target.

When KDB is in the team they over came Bayern on penalties this season in the cup and he made the all important assist for Bendtner. Game ended 1-1.

And please remind me of his role in their 4-1, yes 4-1 win over Bayern last season. KDB the complete star. 2 goals and assist but you came up with a knee-jerk conclusion that because they were unbeaten before today they were going to excel without him. LOL. Don't make me laugh.

[Oscar 441]

But then look at created chances over the season too. Aguero is the only clinical finisher there in that starting 11. KDB made 2 very good passes against Palace.

And I watched all of the game. They were defensively solid but apart from the goal and the Neuer thing I mentioned they rarely did anything going forward. Draxler had a decent shot and yeah that was about it all game. Last season they put in a much better performance all game and were unlucky to lose that. The only thing Wolfsburg done really today was contain them after the goal then they offered nothing going forward. Only 2 shots on target.

When KDB is in the team they over came Bayern on penalties but he made the all important assist for Bendtner. Game ended 1-1.

And please remind me of his role in their 4-1, yes 4-1 win over Bayern last season. KDB the complete star. 2 goals and assist but you came up with a knee-jerk conclusion that because they were unbeaten before today they were going to excel without him. LOL. Don't make me laugh.

Actually, if u watched the preseason game, Munich was significantly better than Wolfsburg. Than, they decided to play around and kdb assisted to Lord bentner for the goal.

This game, wolfsburg played the same as well. Let munich attack and counter and should of scored 2 goals in the first half.

KDB lost to munich 2 out of 3 games with wolfsburg... they have never beated shalke with kdb and beat them this season 3-0 without him...Maybe you should watch the game munich killed wolfsburg 6-1. If you actually remember the 4-1 game, that was during the time half their team was injured and Wolfsburg just scored and Munich didn't convert. Munich had more shots on goals than, possession and pass accuracy.

Also, last season, Wolfsburg obtained 5 points in their first 5 games.

This season, they got 11..

Last year, was a fantastic season for wolfsburg, but last season, they were playing for their fallen teammate and I bet that helped them and KDB in the season

[Stats 7,142]

Actually, if u watched the preseason game, Munich was significantly better than Wolfsburg. Than, they decided to play around and kdb assisted to Lord bentner for the goal.

This game, wolfsburg played the same as well. Let munich attack and counter and should of scored 2 goals in the first half.

KDB lost to munich 2 out of 3 games with wolfsburg... they have never beated shalke with kdb and beat them this season 3-0 without him...Maybe you should watch the game munich killed wolfsburg 6-1.

That is like me saying they could not score a goal against a newly promoted team and the game ended goaless. They clearly will miss KDB over the season. Draxler is a quality player but is not in KDB league. And the difference is when KDB is in the team they give Bayern more of a match as proved by the game at the beginning of the season and the games last season where KDB had a major impact. You do realise that other than the goal they only had 1 shot on target against a world class team yes but a team who had only 1 natural CB in their team due to their injuries. KDB will continue to get better and prove you wrong. Time will tell.

But in trying to prove Wolfsburg are better off without him is just plain ridiculous.

[Oscar 441]

That is like me saying they could not score a goal against a newly promoted team and the game ended goaless. They clearly will miss KDB over the season. Draxler is a quality player but is not in KDB league. And the difference is when KDB is in the team they give Bayern more of a match as proved by the game at the beginning of the season and the games last season where KDB had a major impact. You do realise that other than the goal they only had 1 shot on target against a world class team yes but a team who had only 1 natural CB in their team due to their injuries. KDB will continue to get better and prove you wrong. Time will tell.

But in trying to prove Wolfsburg are better off without him is just plain ridiculous.

Wolfsburg last season first 5 games: 5 points

This season first 5: 11 points

They lost to bayern 2/3 during the KDB era. The 4-1 game, munich was crippled if you didn't remember and wolfsburg just converted better than Munich.

[Stats 7,142]

Wolfsburg last season first 5 games: 5 points

This season first 5: 11 points

They lost to bayern 2/3 during the KDB era. The 4-1 game, munich was crippled if you didn't remember and wolfsburg just converted better than Munich.

Yeah and Bayern were crippled today LOL, but battered them.

And regarding the comparison in points, look at Wolfsburg's run after those games last season and look how many games they were winning. I can guarantee you they will struggle to repeat last season's feats this time around. If they do, hands up but I am sure they will not because KDB is a major loss.

[Oscar 441]

Yeah and Bayern were crippled today LOL, but battered them.

And regarding the comparison in points, look at Wolfsburg's run after those games last season and look how many games they were winning. I can guarantee you they will struggle to repeat last season's feats this time around. If they do, hands up but I am sure they will not because KDB is a major loss.

Munich was cripped today as well, however, they had the best summer and bought adequate cover in COSTA, VIDAL, and KIMMICH who all played today. Also, it was essentially Lewandowski that battered them.....

Wolfsburg were always going to end up the same with kdb or not, 3rd to munich and dortmund.

Were you one of those people that thought Gladbach was going to be third place to this season?