🇧🇷 Oscar

[Styles 9,790]

Talking about making more of Mourinho's comments on Oscar...

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/chelsea-transfer-news-jose-mourinho-drops-oscar-exit-hint-with-brazilian-midfielder-linked-with-juventus-move-10158071.html

Better late than never :yay: :yay:

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Pool to replace Oscar is actually very limited. Koke, Pogba, Vidal, De Bruyne, Isco(unlikely), Turan, Griezmann. These are the players that will allow Fabregas to move to CAM permanently or play there themselves and as we can see most of them are extremely expensive with a couple probably not even getable.

A great modern attacking mid that do well both offensively and defensively are very rare, we get those that are better defensively like Willian, Oscar...etc and those that are better offensively( David Silva, Mata...etc). Imo I would just pay Turan or Koke release clause, but both lack paces though. I really want a Koke-Willian hybrid with pace and vision+ great defensively.

[Shakez 755]

Pool to replace Oscar is actually very limited. Koke, Pogba, Vidal, De Bruyne, Isco(unlikely), Turan, Griezmann. These are the players that will allow Fabregas to move to CAM permanently or play there themselves and as we can see most of them are extremely expensive with a couple probably not even getable.

A great modern attacking mid that do well both offensively and defensively are very rare, we get those that are better defensively like Willian, Oscar...etc and those that are better offensively( David Silva, Mata...etc). Imo I would just pay Turan or Koke release clause, but both lack paces though. I really want a Koke-Willian hybrid with pace and vision+ great defensively.

Either way, im curious who we are targeting. I would like a fresh nr10 player, but a decent B2B player is more vital. We also need quality players to rotate with Hazard and Willian (hoping Cuadrado steps up next season). When you look at it this way we need a new AM, Central midfielder, Striker (replacing Drogba), and possibly a new CB. It is going to be a busy summer...

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

tbh Oscar and Ramires can be replaced in one hit with Koke, with RLC sharing a few duties next season.

[The Chels 2,502]

Oscar is hardly a big-name player. The lack of sensationalism is understandable. Even ESPN FC is only running the quotes on Fabregas and Matic.

I guess they picked up on the tone of the message. Jose was probably just implying that Oscar wasn't playing well but he wasn't playing poorly either.

[iseah100 5,612]

Yes, and when he actually played good in 2014 haters still continued to mock him. I can bet you and some of haters around this thread who bash him now hated him even when he did perform good. Looking at this thread its just sad, really a lot of butthurt Mata and Bruyne tards.

Don't get me wrong im not saying he is playing anywhere near Chelsea team at the moment and i believe it's better for him to continue somewhere else but the hate some have in them is stunning.

It's time for you and some other blind haters to understand Oscar didn't forced Mourinho to trust him.

Umm no. I know you weren't here when he was playing and you're just making baseless assumptions but I defended Oscar quite a bit. But it's gotten ridiculous, last season there was the excuse he was saving himself for the World Cup, this year what is it? He has been awful all year. I know he didn't ask Mourinho to trust him, so he doesn't have to play well then, huh?

[Oscar 441]

If Oscar gets sold, he's replacement should be neither willian or cesc, but another REAL CM.

Summer will be interesting.

[mikeholiday 209]

If Oscar gets sold, he's replacement should be neither willian or cesc, but another REAL CM.

Summer will be interesting.

Willian seems to be performing in the past games, Maybe a left-footed right winger instead....

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Yes, and when he actually played good in 2014 haters still continued to mock him. I can bet you and some of haters around this thread who bash him now hated him even when he did perform good. Looking at this thread its just sad, really a lot of butthurt Mata and Bruyne tards.

Don't get me wrong im not saying he is playing anywhere near Chelsea team at the moment and i believe it's better for him to continue somewhere else but the hate some have in them is stunning.

It's time for you and some other blind haters to understand Oscar didn't forced Mourinho to trust him.

Yep, you said it best. Bunch of sad moronic fanboys have been slagging him off even when he was playing well. The knives were out for him as soon as the summer of 2014 ended as I predicted.

Can't wait to bump this thread once the boy proves them all wrong.

[iseah100 5,612]

Yep, you said it best. Bunch of sad moronic fanboys have been slagging him off even when he was playing well. The knives were out for him as soon as the summer of 2014 ended as I predicted.

Can't wait to bump this thread once the boy proves them all wrong.

He'll start next season well (assuming he's not sold) and drop off dramatically after January. Rinse, lather, repeat.

[robsblubot 3,595]

He'll start next season well (assuming he's not sold) and drop off dramatically after January. Rinse, lather, repeat.

I'm not saying trust me, "Oscar is going to turn into a star in a couple of years" because frankly I don't know.

Just consider, however, that perhaps you don't have access to all the information they have at the club. Perhaps the fact his performances drop in the second half of the season is well understood at the club. It could be temporary or something they are willing to accept - we just dont know.

[iseah100 5,612]

I'm not saying trust me, "Oscar is going to turn into a star in a couple of years" because frankly I don't know.

Just consider, however, that perhaps you don't have access to all the information they have at the club. Perhaps the fact his performances drop in the second half of the season is well understood at the club. It could be temporary or something they are willing to accept - we just dont know.

I hope, for a club like Chelsea, they don't accept that.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

"I really like Oscar . I think he just needs to trust himself more because he is a player out of the ordinary. He could be very different than what he is playing today. For me he's the Selecao's most important player." - Deco

Man definitely knows his football. Shame Oscar's manager openly slags him off despite the fact he would be way ahead in his developmental curve under a more progressive manager.

[iseah100 5,612]

"I really like Oscar . I think he just needs to trust himself more because he is a player out of the ordinary. He could be very different than what he is playing today. For me he's the Selecao's most important player." - Deco

Man definitely knows his football. Shame Oscar's manager openly slags him off despite the fact he would be way ahead in his developmental curve under a more progressive manager.

LMAO

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Ashton, the shit stirring cunt is back at it again. Oscar "stood up" to Mourinho because we didn't play with a "sense of adventure" and as a result, he's seen his minutes reduced since January.

Maybe, just maybe there's a simpler explanation Neil. Maybe Oscar has simply been shit and his ability as a footballer grossly overstated.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3029346/Chelsea-midfielder-Oscar-learning-hard-way-taken-Jose-Mourinho-off.html

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

LMAO

Beat me to it, I see.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

I'll trust one of the best midfielders opinion over some no marks on a football forum. The fact you easily dismiss his opinion says it all.

Unreal tournament. Oscar in full confidence is a joy to watch. Was unbelievable that summer.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

"I really like Oscar . I think he just needs to trust himself more because he is a player out of the ordinary. He could be very different than what he is playing today. For me he's the Selecao's most important player." - Deco

Man definitely knows his football. Shame Oscar's manager openly slags him off despite the fact he would be way ahead in his developmental curve under a more progressive manager.

Mourinho sold Chelsea's best player for 2 years in a row, absolutely convinced Oscar was his best number 10, he downed tools after 6 months of that season and apart from a brief spell this season he has never hit that consistency or really improved since. How is that Jose's fault? Really looking forward to your reply because Jose worked with players like Sneidjer and Ozil who were brilliant #10s and they definitely progressed under him despite playing in counter attack orientated teams. Are you still going to complain about Jose when we win the league?

Also the thing about us needing to play with more adventure? Like Brazil when they got demolished by Germany? Ronaldo, Oscar, Deco how many titles have they won as managers....?

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Yeah, you heard it here folks! Despite awful after awful performances, Mourinho is to blame for the failings of Oscar. He's of course, holding him back. Of course, it's all Jose's fault! Who else could possibly be to blame? It's true Mourinho is to blame........For consistently giving this player a platform to bottle it and let the fans down.

Of course, the evidence used to support this ludicrous claim is some Mickey Mouse tournament in London. I wonder why Hazard for example, a player of similar age to Oscar and who was bought in the same transfer window as Oscar is also struggling under Mourinho. If anything, Mourinho has given Oscar more opportunities than any other player to prove himself but consistently shows that he's simply not good enough. Oscar was riding on Fabregas' coattails eariler this season, but now that the latter isn't performing at the same level, Oscar has become his average self. It's not his fault, he's just not good enough and has hardly developed as a player after almost 3 seasons at the club.

Oscar goes on international break and plays well in some Mickey Mouse, uncompetitve friendly that no player takes seriously and people like Gilvorak wank themselves silly over it. Perhaps guys like Gilvorak need to "learn football" (like he told me a few weeks ago) instead of making asinine claims about one of the best managers of all time, who is about to WIN US THE LEAGUE in order to take blame off a player who isn't really all that to begin with. Oscar has taken a vacation at the most vital part of our season. Like he did last season. And the season before that as well, under RDM and Benitez, before Mourinho. He's bottled it time and time again and let us down. But no, let's blame Jose, the guy who is about to win us the league for the 3rd time. And it's perhaps that that irks me the most from some of our fans. Simply amazing. Shame on such fans.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

"I really like Oscar . I think he just needs to trust himself more because he is a player out of the ordinary. He could be very different than what he is playing today. For me he's the Selecao's most important player." - Deco

Man definitely knows his football. Shame Oscar's manager openly slags him off despite the fact he would be way ahead in his developmental curve under a more progressive manager.

Borderline RAWK levels of delusion.