🇧🇷 Oscar

[Chelsea? 892]

gotta be honest: If Oscar doesn't score a goal he's pretty much useless offensively. I just see him as a Ramirez with slightly better passing and finishing. It's just something about his style of play that makes me wish he were more influential in our build up play. I do think he fits better in our system than Mata though.

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gotta be honest: If Oscar doesn't score a goal he's pretty much useless offensively. I just see him as a Ramirez with slightly better passing and finishing. It's just something about his style of play that makes me wish he were more influential in our build up play. I do think he fits better in our system than Mata though.

This is the guy who makes the most tackles/wins the ball back in the team with Ramires, and he's useless when he doesn't score? his work rate and stamina are immense, out of this world for an offensive player. he's not your typical flashy number 10, he's a workaholic and more of a direct player than the likes of Mata/Ozil/Silva who like to keep the ball between their feet. he does the job.

If everyone in our team works as hard as Oscar does in our team, we would dominate.

[Term-X 7,891]

Premier League history makers, the only club to successfully integrate Brazilian players *plural* to this scale, UTD tried and failed, we're the first.

And considering the impact that particular nation has made on football since it's inception, it can only enrich the PL further.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Its one thing that bothers me...he is hardworker and tries to run whole game, but after 65min or sth, he starts to look tired and that reflects on his playmaking abilities. Thats why we start to lose control and composure of the game.

Sure in couple of years, his stamina will improve though.

Another thing is that he is oftenly very invisible at playmaking. He tracks and runs, but he just isnt creative. He was quite bad vs Stoke before he scored that goal. After, hw was amazing. Good thing he is only 22 and has time to understand the game and improve.

[AswinR 96]

gotta be honest: If Oscar doesn't score a goal he's pretty much useless offensively. I just see him as a Ramirez with slightly better passing and finishing. It's just something about his style of play that makes me wish he were more influential in our build up play. I do think he fits better in our system than Mata though.

You joking right!! mata is world class agreed but that doesnt mean oscar isnt too!!

I keep hearing oscar cant pass and dribble....You need to remember .....last season oscar had quite a few brilliant dribbles but now the team style has changed

With RDM the front 4 had no contact with back 4(it was always 4-1-4.)..they worked as 2 units now u see a team defending with 4-5-1 and attacking with 4-1-5 ...imagine how difficult that is....

Mata did try and he wasnt that bad but he got outmuscled quite a few times and he doesnt know how to tackle.....

Oscar challenges for the ball and creates opportunities(infact i remember 2 great crosses beofre the freekick in last match that would have been scored by a better striker!!)...yes sometimes his passes are not that great but did you see the reaction of stoke everytime he got the ball....to instill that kind of panic mode is gift from god...remember watching lampard at his best....

and for god sake he is 22!!!

and like ramires with better passing and finishing....was that a dig or a compliment?!!-apparently a player with excellent technical ability and with great finishing and pace and with added gifts of good passing and skills not good enough!!!

We all loved mata but get over it...oscar is just as important as hazard to this team

[TrippingStep 336]

It's kinda funny that during the freekick, I think I had a moment when I thought how cool it would've been had Mata been the one taking it. And then that happened.

It all goes to show how blinded we've become for our little magician. There's no denying Mata's talent and awesomeness, I love that guy. Perhaps even more than I do Oscar. But I hope we finally come back to our senses to realize that Oscar is the one who is our future. Mata is brilliant, of course, but Oscar can be even more so (if not already). Mourinho is like the strict but loving father in this case. He takes the tough decision, and does the thing that has made us upset, but in the end it's for our benefit.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm so excited about our players! Oscar, Hazard, Willian, Matic...even Salah all look oh so good for this team. I'm glad Mata is at a place where he can play now, and that the pressure on our manager and entire squad has been lifted because of this move.

That free kick, I think, is just a sign of things to come. Oscar is going to be even more fantastic for us, God willing. I can feel it.

Me I've always liked Oscar more than Mata.

Don't get me wrong, Mata is a good player but like Cole at Lille, he was good at giving the ball back to his run but other players have to make the run, carry the ball for him.

Last year Mata had an excellent year but look at the support Mata had when he was drifting to the right. All three of our most hard working players Ramires, Azpi, Oscar were there or drifting there. Mata couldn't have more support.

Look at the left side, Cole Lampard or Mikel, the slowest and less running players.

Against Shaktar, the only good periods we had was when Oscar and Hazard were working together on the left. No wonder that Jose Mourinho prefers these two to Mata.

I wasn't found of Mourinho in the beginning of the season but not because of Mata treatment, more because we were playing very poorly, slow at the back at that time.

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[Chelsea? 892]

You joking right!! mata is world class agreed but that doesnt mean oscar isnt too!!

I keep hearing oscar cant pass and dribble....You need to remember .....last season oscar had quite a few brilliant dribbles but now the team style has changed

With RDM the front 4 had no contact with back 4(it was always 4-1-4.)..they worked as 2 units now u see a team defending with 4-5-1 and attacking with 4-1-5 ...imagine how difficult that is....

Mata did try and he wasnt that bad but he got outmuscled quite a few times and he doesnt know how to tackle.....

Oscar challenges for the ball and creates opportunities(infact i remember 2 great crosses beofre the freekick in last match that would have been scored by a better striker!!)...yes sometimes his passes are not that great but did you see the reaction of stoke everytime he got the ball....to instill that kind of panic mode is gift from god...remember watching lampard at his best....

and for god sake he is 22!!!

and like ramires with better passing and finishing....was that a dig or a compliment?!!-apparently a player with excellent technical ability and with great finishing and pace and with added gifts of good passing and skills not good enough!!!

We all loved mata but get over it...oscar is just as important as hazard to this team

yea you pretty much said what I was saying. I never mentioned Oscar's dribbling as a problem. When was the last brilliant pass he made? Like I said, he is better for the system due to his work rate and directness, but his vision and passing is average.

Idk why the Oscar fanboys have to defend every ability of Oscar's.

[Chelsea? 892]

This is the guy who makes the most tackles/wins the ball back in the team with Ramires, and he's useless when he doesn't score? his work rate and stamina are immense, out of this world for an offensive player. he's not your typical flashy number 10, he's a workaholic and more of a direct player than the likes of Mata/Ozil/Silva who like to keep the ball between their feet. he does the job.

If everyone in our team works as hard as Oscar does in our team, we would dominate.

I mean useless offensively. 20 assists> 100 tackles in the middle of the field.

[yuvala 2,167]

I mean useless offensively. 20 assists> 100 tackles in the middle of the field.

I get what you're saying but we have to understand that Oscar works brilliantly in our well-balanced, high-workrate pressing system. Even without the 20 assists we are able to control and win games. It's the same as where we don't have a real goal scorer but due to our system and everyone doing their job we're able to win.

Obviously if Oscar had Mata's passes it would have been crazy, but no one is perfect.. Except for Hazard, ofc.

We also have to remember that Oscar is young and I'm sure he can improve his passing to some extent.

[Chelsea? 892]

I get what you're saying but we have to understand that Oscar works brilliantly in our well-balanced, high-workrate pressing system. Even without the 20 assists we are able to control and win games. It's the same as where we don't have a real goal scorer but due to our system and everyone doing their job we're able to win.

Obviously if Oscar had Mata's passes it would have been crazy, but no one is perfect.. Except for Hazard, ofc.

We also have to remember that Oscar is young and I'm sure he can improve his passing to some extent.

totally agree, under Jose I'd take oscar over Mata any day.

[Barbara 15,149]

yea you pretty much said what I was saying. I never mentioned Oscar's dribbling as a problem. When was the last brilliant pass he made? Like I said, he is better for the system due to his work rate and directness, but his vision and passing is average.

Idk why the Oscar fanboys have to defend every ability of Oscar's.

he left Schurrle in front of the goal and Andre hit the post just last match. He had another great pass then I don't remember to who - probably Eto'o.

Nobody is defending Oscar's every ability. You just spoke some BS when you called him useless offensively bar his goals. Oscar is no genius offensively, but he offers more than being our second top scorer and tackles in the season. And even those tackles should be counted as offensive when they're made in the attacking third and because of him we have a chance to try a shot. He creates space, he gives good passes, he links up with our other attacking players. Just because he isn't as brilliant as Mata creating chances it doesn't mean he's useless as you said he is. I don't feel like we are the ones acting like fanboys here in all honesty.

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[Chelsea? 892]

he left Schurrle in front of the goal and Andre hit the post just last match. He had another great pass then I don't remember to who - probably Eto'o.

Nobody is defending Oscar's every ability. You just spoke some BS when you called him useless offensively bar his goals. Oscar is no genius offensively, but he offers more than being our second top scorer and tackles in the season. And even those tackles should be counted as offensive when they're made in the attacking third and because of him we have a chance to try a shot. He creates space, he gives good passes, he links up with our other attacking players. Just because he isn't as brilliant as Mata creating chances it doesn't mean he's useless as you said he is. I don't feel like we are the ones acting like fanboys here in all honesty.

keeping the ball moving and creating space isn't a difficult task. We are better with oscar because of he is good on the counter and his workrate.

[bababoom 4,478]

Me I've always liked Oscar more than Mata.

Don't get me wrong, Mata is a good player but like Cole at Lille, he was good at giving the ball back to his run but other players have to make the run, carry the ball for him.

Last year Mata had an excellent year but look at the support Mata had when he was drifting to the right. All three of our most hard working players Ramires, Azpi, Oscar were there or drifting there. Mata couldn't have more support.

Look at the left side, Cole Lampard or Mikel, the slowest and less running players.

Against Shaktar, the only good periods we had was when Oscar and Hazard were working together on the left. No wonder that Jose Mourinho prefers these two to Mata.

I wasn't found of Mourinho in the beginning of the season but not because of Mata treatment, more because we were playing very poorly, slow at the back at that time.

I remember, you used to always mention Benitez , you don't do that anymore, does this mean you like what Jose's doing now?

For United, once Rooney and RVP come back Mata will be put out on the right,... having Mata - Rooney - Januzaj sounds mouth watering (for united fans) but it'll leave them vulnerable, once they lose the ball it'll be so easy to hit them on the counter.

[AswinR 96]

yea you pretty much said what I was saying. I never mentioned Oscar's dribbling as a problem. When was the last brilliant pass he made? Like I said, he is better for the system due to his work rate and directness, but his vision and passing is average.

Idk why the Oscar fanboys have to defend every ability of Oscar's.

i understand what u trying to say...no BRILLIANT passes....

just like to quote what mata said around last season mid "... with drogba we knew all we had to do was pass...."

u think anybody in our team has that much confidence on our strikers...mourinho " our strikers work hard for the team that's all i can ask from them" ....

how many 'brilliant' passes have you seen from hazard ?

and friend am not just an oscar fanboy.... i am a chelsea fanboy ... i kinda like defending all the players wearing blue ... its a sickness

[sutro 1,026]

i understand what u trying to say...no BRILLIANT passes....

just like to quote what mata said around last season mid "... with drogba we knew all we had to do was pass...."

u think anybody in our team has that much confidence on our strikers...mourinho " our strikers work hard for the team that's all i can ask from them" ....

how many 'brilliant' passes have you seen from hazard ?

and friend am not just an oscar fanboy.... i am a chelsea fanboy ... i kinda like defending all the players wearing blue ... its a sickness

I saw quite a few brilliant passes from Hazard, even last weekend against Stoke that pass on Eto'o i would call brilliant

[Stingray 9,441]

yea you pretty much said what I was saying. I never mentioned Oscar's dribbling as a problem. When was the last brilliant pass he made? Like I said, he is better for the system due to his work rate and directness, but his vision and passing is average.

Idk why the Oscar fanboys have to defend every ability of Oscar's.

how many 'brilliant' passes have you seen from hazard ?

Quite a few tbh.

[Chelsea? 892]

i understand what u trying to say...no BRILLIANT passes....

just like to quote what mata said around last season mid "... with drogba we knew all we had to do was pass...."

u think anybody in our team has that much confidence on our strikers...mourinho " our strikers work hard for the team that's all i can ask from them" ....

how many 'brilliant' passes have you seen from hazard ?

and friend am not just an oscar fanboy.... i am a chelsea fanboy ... i kinda like defending all the players wearing blue ... its a sickness

hazard isn't that brilliant of a passer either. that's why he's a winger. But hazard's passing is a couple of levels higher than Oscar's. And Hazard has had some really briliant passing this years