LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Different Types of Shoes?Lmao, you're clearly not a motorsports guy, huh? - It's an analogy to different types of vehicle tyres. xPetrCechx and Reddish-Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,572 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Lmao, you're clearly not a motorsports guy, huh? - It's an analogy to different types of vehicle tyres.lol..not my Area... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Can see great things for him here, trying to not to get too excited and expect much from him but it's hard considering he has shown he can be a quality player. The Skipper and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illmatic 901 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I'm sorry for the guy, but is the mediocrity made football player, and it's not only for the penalty. He can't be more the 10 of a team like Chelsea. It hurts to think that We keep him, and sold to De Bruyne. I really hope that Juve is still interested on him, because improve our CAM is an obligation for the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Wasn't this guy universally praised a couple of days ago? Yes, for a Rabona and a few fancy back heels against Sunderland. Still nothing to get excited by, he's average. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 :lol: I forgot about that guy! Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Things I've learned on talk Chelsea: mikel and Cahill are great players while fabregas and Oscar are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Crazy inconsistent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,572 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Things I've learned on talk Chelsea: mikel and Cahill are great players while fabregas and Oscar are shit.Cahill is shit too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Cahill is shit too...They are not shit. They are all good and decent players who may or may not be good enough for us. There is also a. Question of style.I personally find interesting that we qualify a player with "does a job" while another, who is far more valuable and sought after, gets in the garbage bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Things I've learned on talk Chelsea: mikel and Cahill are great players while fabregas and Oscar are shit.I think it's a matter of expectations. The Skipper, Reddish-Blue and Ainsley Harriott 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 They are not shit. They are all good and decent players who may or may not be good enough for us. There is also a. Question of style.I personally find interesting that we qualify a player with "does a job" while another, who is far more valuable and sought after, gets in the garbage bin.If Oscar was consistent, he wouldn't be put into the garbage bin Ainsley Harriott, Barbara and LDN Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Things I've learned on talk Chelsea: mikel and Cahill are great players while fabregas and Oscar are shit.You learned that on TC hey? I learned that watching the latter two fall over themselves.. Those two might be great player individually but they're not 'great' for the team and that's quite evident. You don't need us to tell you that. The fact Hiddink and Mourinho have both dropped Cesc at various times most recently highlights that? The fact Oscar hasn't put in a worldie since Juve 2013 should be evident enough.It's not so much that Mikel and Cahill are great players either, it's that at least their flaws don't come at a higher stake than Fabregas and Oscar's Reddish-Blue and Amblève. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 If Oscar was consistent, he wouldn't be put into the garbage bin That's really not my point though.I am not questioning whether he is good enough or not... just that in my head we cannot call Oscar 'shit' and at the same time say Mikel "does a job".Neither player is 'shit' but I personally think that Oscar is FAR closer to "good enough" than most other players who get a pass for one reason or another. Especially considering he's still fairly young.@LDN Blue can't agree with that really. However weak, however poor Fabregas may be - I am not a fan - he's twice the player Mikel is. 11Drogba, Barbara and DYC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Why the fuck he is our no 1 penalty taker?.. Really dumb decision from management Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 That's really not my point though.I am not questioning whether he is good enough or not... just that in my head we cannot call Oscar 'shit' and at the same time say Mikel "does a job".Neither player is 'shit' but I personally think that Oscar is FAR closer to "good enough" than most other players who get a pass for one reason or another. Especially considering he's 30 yet....It's all about expectations.We expect Oscar to be our starting #10, we expect him to lead us to victory with goals/assists...and when he fails to deliver, we call him shite.As for Mikel, we don't expect him to be anything more than a squad filler and as a result, when he does okay, fans say "he does a job" Barbara, The Skipper and LDN Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 @LDN Blue can't agree with that really. However weak, however poor Fabregas may be - I am not a fan - he's twice the player Mikel is.Tbh, they're not really comparable for what they do lol. I was speaking generically in the moment we're in now.I mean of course Fabregas is capable of much more than Mikel. That's quite obvious. But he's not doing it now and when he's become such a.. passenger(?).. It's easy to point to Mikel being able to 'do a job' higher than Fabregas not being able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Why the fuck he is our no 1 penalty taker?.. Really dumb decision from managementWell considering Hazard missed the last few he was involved in.. Plus I don't think it's a management decision per se either, players clearly have their input to that decision too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 It's all about expectations.We expect Oscar to be our starting #10, we expect him to lead us to victory with goals/assists...and when he fails to deliver, we call him shite.As for Mikel, we don't expect him to be anything more than a squad filler and as a result, when he does okay, fans say "he does a job"Fair enough and it's one way to see it.I for one believe that it's very difficult to get the most of the players when they have no competition. It can be done, but doesn't last.Is Diego Costa afraid of losing his position? Is Matic? Jose played Matic in every freaking game since he signed him.Then people, sometimes the same ones, complain that the young don't play. Well Mikel 28/29 yo needs minutes to, so he will play ahead of RLC and others.Logically, this whole thing makes little sense in my mind... but I guess controversy is good for TC.@LDN Blue posted Mikel's stats on defending in his thread a week ago or so - whether he "does the job" is also debatable. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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