Daniel Sturridge

[Reddish-Blue 2,347]

Then answer me, if he was such great why RDM relegated him to the bench after Leicester game in FA cup and didn't even give him oportunity to start in CL just like he didn't give oportunity to Torres. Yes I know he plays great for Liverpool, but I'm talking about Sturridge I watched at Chelsea. There were some great driblings, beating defenders, passes but also lots shoots from imposible angles, not seeing Mata and Ramirez when needed to pass, lots goal attempts instead of simple passes that left lots of fans even RDM and some players frustrated with his play. If you need reminisence, just read trough matches he played for us.

Sturridge in Liverpool is different from Sturridge in Chelsea, otherways he would have never been sold. That is the point, Liverpool suits him more than we did. Deal with it.

Liverpool does suit Sturridge better....but their coach has also put faith into Sturridge.

He's a much more confident player at Liverpool because he's playing regularly and he knows he's got the coaches full support.

[laura90 556]

Liverpool does suit Sturridge better....but their coach has also put faith into Sturridge.

He's a much more confident player at Liverpool because he's playing regularly and he knows he's got the coaches full support.

Yes, but what made RDM not having faith in him ? Care to answer? It's not like he had faith in Torres back then.

Better question, what made AVB to have faith in Sturridge, that RDM didn't see? What was the difference? It certainly was not position he played.

[Las7 951]

How is he different - well he is playing pretty constantly when not injured, that pretty much confirms what most expected. When given a run up top whether it's Pool; Bolton or us he has pretty much scored a goal on average in under 160 minutes on the field. Even playing out of position for us under AVB he had the most game changing goals from open play last season. Simply put you didn't see this side of him because he only played two matches up top for us for 6 months and during those two matches he wanted to do too much - which is natural because he was constantly having to prove himself here.

There is more to Sturridge not starting here, than simply RdM not ratting him - RdM the same person who made a long video over viewing how Poorres was failing here and the type of goals he used to score for Looserpool. It was a decision which was above RdM's head most likely I doubt any manager would have been happy with two strikers to start the season off with, especially when you know you would playing around 70 matches.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

I am not really surprised by Danny's progress at Liverpool so far.This was a player who just needed some managerial backing and opportunities to really get going and unfortunately that wasn't provided at Chelsea.

Liverpool are really lucky to have him.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

You can't blame the board for Sturridge's departure. If anything the board probably deserve some praise. It's the managers that never rated him and gave him a chance. The board actually did an exceptional job getting 12M for a guy with only 6 months left on his contract because there was no way he was going to sign an extension if we hadn't sold him and he would have left for free!

[didierforever 7,349]

Yes, he will, but in Liverpool fc. There is no guarantee he would do the same here. Liverpool style of play suits him much more than ours, and is and was much more different than ours.

He is not that suitable for link up plays we are trying to achieve and brought Mazascar for. He needs lots of space, he didn't have it at Chelsea.

He is much better in concentrating on goal only, rather than play in general. Our future striker will not have that luxury, that's why most of us want Cavany type rather than Falcao type.

Given that striker who scores every game, doesn't even have to pass,

selling him was a mistake, but the mistake he himself made us to make by refusing to play good on wing temporary and slowly fight for striker position with Torres. Had he persisted, he would have won that position by January.

sturridge was 14 games on the bench before torres got a red against united. do u actually think he had got a fair chance.

do u remember the game against WBA. he started on the wing. mata had not started so we were piss poor. torres went off, mata came in and danny went as a striker. in the next 20 mins danny made more chances for himself than torres has made this whole season just thru his runs. he played just the way a striker does. we might have brought MAZACAR for a nice build up play but dont forget that the finisher is still as important if not more important than the build up play.

cant u see this is exactly what is wrong with barca. they have all the players to CREATE a play and none of them to FINISH it. sturridge is a proper striker. he is selfish, he can go past players, he can shoot from 30 yards out and when u compare it to our current pool of players, he would have been a perfect fit simply because he gives us that extra dimension upfront.

also honestly i cant say that our style of play does not suit danny because we dint give him a chance to prove/disprove that.

[Las7 951]

You can't blame the board for Sturridge's departure. If anything the board probably deserve some praise. It's the managers that never rated him and gave him a chance. The board actually did an exceptional job getting 12M for a guy with only 6 months left on his contract because there was no way he was going to sign an extension if we hadn't sold him and he would have left for free!

The same board that sacked the manager after he benched Poorres? The same board that allowed us to start a season with Poorres as first choice? The same board who bought in players to play the way Poorres needs in order to be effective? The same board that brough in the FSW Poorres favorite manager? The same board that send Lukaku on loan and didn't recall him in the winter? The same board that in the past year have pushed Drogba; Anelka and Sturridge out the door to make room for Poorres?

Yep lets blame RdM for not starting Sturridge it's fairly obvious it's all his fault

[Stats 7,056]

You can't blame the board for Sturridge's departure. If anything the board probably deserve some praise. It's the managers that never rated him and gave him a chance. The board actually did an exceptional job getting 12M for a guy with only 6 months left on his contract because there was no way he was going to sign an extension if we hadn't sold him and he would have left for free!

I blame the management for not giving him a proper chance. Especially when English talent like that come along, to lose them is quite depressing.

[Ronaldo 28]

Eh, you guys are thinking too.much.....

Danny never fit Chelsea system as a lone cf. Not does Torres or falcao....

He was always going to do better with Liverpool... However, he still is a bit selfish there and wasteful, but he will be better off for England playing under Liverpool...

[different level 1,056]

Someone made a very valid point that Sturridge in Liverpool and Sturridge in Chelsea are two extremely different cases. Crucify me if you want but IMO Fernando Torres in Chelsea is/was a better option than the latter.

[laura90 556]

So RDM didn't give him the chance.

Managerial support isn't something God given that player earns automatically without effort. It is something players have to deserve by working hard when given oportunity, for the team, with giving their best in every possible occasion. He doesn't need to be best passer around, but he has to pass when that is the best option. He has to shoot when it is the best option, and assist when someone else is in better position. Hard work and devotion, that is something managers need to put their trust in someone.

Sturridge showed it in Bolton - he had managerial backing and support.

Sturridge showed it iunder AVB and got managerial support.

Sturridge is showing it under Rodgers hence he has his full support.

But he wasn't showing it under RDM, he was 40% or less team player he was under AVB, or Coyle or Rodgers. He just stopped and started playing only towards the goal, shooting whenever he could, didn't see his teammates in front of the goal, missed oportunities to pass God knows how many times, most of the time, and was among majority of the fans the most frustrating player. What if he was sub. He came as sub against us and what did he do. He is capable to leave impression in 20 minutes, even less.

Then they said, he is the striker, it's not his job to pass. Or he is playing in wrong position. Now they say RDM didn't give him support he needed.

The truth nobody here is willing to admit, Sturridge had only Torres to compete with this season. Had he put 60% of effort he is putting in Liverpool like some claim, on rare given chances,( maybe he would get more chances?) he would have won his striker position in couple of months without problems at least by January, and gained RDM's trust.. Even from the wing because he had skill to play there, he played there for Liverpool when Suarez played up front.

But he didn't. He played with 40% or less of what he was capable of under RDM. It was so evident on the pitch. You may claim he didn't have his favourite position, or he did't have RDM's support, but both of those things could have been won with hard work and effort. Especially for player with his skills and talent. He would have been our main striker by JAnuary had he played more responsable and for the team. But he wasn't willing to.

There have been talks about Sturridge to Liverpool during summer, I guess he was unhappy because Drogba played as main striker in front of him.

And what managerial support our players enjoyed this season? From the interim manager they knew exact date of leaving, booed by fans majority of time. They still don't know who will manage them in month.

BTW Oscar is not playing on his position and didn't enjoy much of Benitez support. What was he supposed to do, shoot without purpose and miss passes and it would all be justified because manager didn't back him?

Or was he supposed to work hard, improve himself, play like a proper team player and earn managers trust and support, this one and the next, even if he still doesn't have his position .

[Las7 951]

But he wasn't showing it under RDM, he was 40% or less team player he was under AVB, or Coyle or Rodgers. He just stopped and started playing only towards the goal, shooting whenever he could, didn't see his teammates in front of the goal, missed oportunities to pass God knows how many times, most of the time, and was among majority of the fans the most frustrating player. What if he was sub. He came as sub against us and what did he do. He is capable to leave impression in 20 minutes, even less.

Then they said, he is the striker, it's not his job to pass. Or he is playing in wrong position. Now they say RDM didn't give him support he needed.

The truth nobody here is willing to admit, Sturridge had only Torres to compete with this season. Had he put 60% of effort he is putting in Liverpool like some claim, on rare given chances,( maybe he would get more chances?) he would have won his striker position in couple of months without problems at least by January, and gained RDM's trust.. Even from the wing because he had skill to play there, he played there for Liverpool when Suarez played up front.

But he didn't. He played with 40% or less of what he was capable of under RDM. It was so evident on the pitch. You may claim he didn't have his favourite position, or he did't have RDM's support, but both of those things could have been won with hard work and effort. Especially for player with his skills and talent. He would have been our main striker by JAnuary had he played more responsable and for the team. But he wasn't willing to.

There have been talks about Sturridge to Liverpool during summer, I guess he was unhappy because Drogba played as main striker in front of him.

And what managerial support our players enjoyed this season? From the interim manager they knew exact date of leaving, booed by fans majority of time. They still don't know who will manage them in month.

BTW Oscar is not playing on his position and didn't enjoy much of Benitez support. What was he supposed to do, shoot without purpose and miss passes and it would all be justified because manager didn't back him?

Or was he supposed to work hard, improve himself, play like a proper team player and earn managers trust and support, this one and the next, even if he still doesn't have his position .

So since the start of the season he had played a total of 295 minutes - one third of that amount was in one match against United where he played 120 minutes(where he also scored a goal). No matter what type of dross you type up in the remaining 160 minutes mostly came as cameo's in which you could not expect even Messi to make miracles happen.

You don't believe me here is the proof:

EPL 22-08-2012 Chelsea 4 : 2 Reading 22 6.75

IUSC 31-08-2012 Chelsea 1 : 4 Atletico Madrid 9

EPL 15-09-2012 Queens Park Rangers 0 : 0 Chelsea 9 6.28

EPL 20-10-2012 Tottenham 2 : 4 Chelsea 7 6.84

ICL 23-10-2012 Shakhtar Donetsk 2 : 1 Chelsea 20 6.28

EPL 28-10-2012 Chelsea 2 : 3 Manchester United 8 6

ECC 31-10-2012 Chelsea *5 : 4 Manchester United 90'

EPL 03-11-2012 Swansea 1 : 1 Chelsea 17 5.9

ICL 07-11-2012 Chelsea 3 : 2 Shakhtar Donetsk 0 6.03

EPL 11-11-2012 Chelsea 1 : 1 Liverpool 8 5.92

EPL 17-11-2012 West Bromwich Albion 2 : 1 Chelsea 90 7

In bold are the minutes he played at "40%"

Oscar unlike Sturridge actually is played regularly - you might instead comment on Moses who is treated in a similar way to Sturridge. But even he has many more matches despite competing with far better players like Hazard/Mata/Oscar for a start. Even if Sturridge played at 40% - which I doubt anyone here would agree with - it would still make him 40% better than 0% Floppes.

You're whole comment is laughable

[LDN Blue 7,903]

So RDM didn't give him the chance.

Managerial support isn't something God given that player earns automatically without effort. It is something players have to deserve by working hard when given oportunity, for the team, with giving their best in every possible occasion. He doesn't need to be best passer around, but he has to pass when that is the best option. He has to shoot when it is the best option, and assist when someone else is in better position. Hard work and devotion, that is something managers need to put their trust in someone.

Sturridge showed it in Bolton - he had managerial backing and support.

Sturridge showed it iunder AVB and got managerial support.

Sturridge is showing it under Rodgers hence he has his full support.

But he wasn't showing it under RDM, he was 40% or less team player he was under AVB, or Coyle or Rodgers. He just stopped and started playing only towards the goal, shooting whenever he could, didn't see his teammates in front of the goal, missed oportunities to pass God knows how many times, most of the time, and was among majority of the fans the most frustrating player. What if he was sub. He came as sub against us and what did he do. He is capable to leave impression in 20 minutes, even less.

Then they said, he is the striker, it's not his job to pass. Or he is playing in wrong position. Now they say RDM didn't give him support he needed.

The truth nobody here is willing to admit, Sturridge had only Torres to compete with this season. Had he put 60% of effort he is putting in Liverpool like some claim, on rare given chances,( maybe he would get more chances?) he would have won his striker position in couple of months without problems at least by January, and gained RDM's trust.. Even from the wing because he had skill to play there, he played there for Liverpool when Suarez played up front.

But he didn't. He played with 40% or less of what he was capable of under RDM. It was so evident on the pitch. You may claim he didn't have his favourite position, or he did't have RDM's support, but both of those things could have been won with hard work and effort. Especially for player with his skills and talent. He would have been our main striker by JAnuary had he played more responsable and for the team. But he wasn't willing to.

There have been talks about Sturridge to Liverpool during summer, I guess he was unhappy because Drogba played as main striker in front of him.

And what managerial support our players enjoyed this season? From the interim manager they knew exact date of leaving, booed by fans majority of time. They still don't know who will manage them in month.

BTW Oscar is not playing on his position and didn't enjoy much of Benitez support. What was he supposed to do, shoot without purpose and miss passes and it would all be justified because manager didn't back him?

Or was he supposed to work hard, improve himself, play like a proper team player and earn managers trust and support, this one and the next, even if he still doesn't have his position .

Fabulous post, absolutely brilliant.

I disagree on whether RdM would've trusted Sturridge though - not because RdM didn't, but more like he couldn't

[Las7 951]

Someone made a very valid point that Sturridge in Liverpool and Sturridge in Chelsea are two extremely different cases. Crucify me if you want but IMO Fernando Torres in Chelsea is/was a better option than the latter.

Yep the difference is one is played while the other watches Floppes from the bench - coming from one of the biggest Poorres apologists on the forum your comment doesn't surprise me one bit.

[Laylabelle 9,359]

Fabulous post, absolutely brilliant.

I disagree on whether RdM would've trusted Sturridge though - not because RdM didn't, but more like he couldn't

Thats the issue that has been there..want to play players but feel cant etc

End of the day he's gone..he could've easily stayed with us...been crap and then we'd wondered why we hadnt let him go when we had the chance.Just annoying he's doing so well there and we're stuck with Torres not doing so much...see what happens in the window

[DDA 9,690]

We all knew Sturridge was the better choice of striker than Torres but what we fail to remember was that the decision wasn't always in the managers hands. I believe it wasn't just media fantasy when the rumours of Romans demands for Torres to start because of the money spent on him. I think Danny knew that all the time Torres was here, he wouldn't get the chance to truly become the number one striker in our system of play.

[different level 1,056]

Yep the difference is one is played while the other watches Floppes from the bench - coming from one of the biggest Poorres apologists on the forum your comment doesn't surprise me one bit.

He watched Torres from the bench and when he was actually given some time on the pitch he was selfish, wasteful and ineffectual just like the better part of last season - grow up, Sturridge lover.

[Tomo 21,733]

But next year is different! They have Sturridge, the next best striker in the League, t better than we will have anyway! And Coutinho, and Suarez... Definitly favourites

Liverpool favs for the league next season? They will at the very best sneak a top 4 finish.