mac.bo 48 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 He has always been a striker from day 1 , and was never giving the chance like Torres has been given over and over again to prove his 50 mill worth! And alot of people should look how much money we pay for all these guys who are out on loan now or vanished! Moses-Marin-Katuta-young guys from Leeds etc etc, and the summer buys hardly fill me with confidence,and so much for our not signing over 30 policy also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Oh come on, you and I both know he didn't play like that at Chelsea. Maybe he really has matured and become more of a team player in less than a year but more likely it's because there isn't any competition for his place at Liverpool like there was at Chelsea. He can now play shit for one game and it won't hurt his chances of starting the next one but at Chelsea he might not have even made the bench if he didn't perform and because of that he probably felt he needed to produce something spectacular all the time and ended up being a selfish cunt, which ironically was the reason he got frozen out of the first team. Sure, the club could have given him a proper chance as the number one striker and even play him when he's shit but that's hardly what a club willing to challenge for multiple trophies should be willing to descend to and who's to say it would have worked out anyway? Maybe Danny would still have been utter shit and the club would have missed out on top4 and therefore Mourinho. I suppose you'd have been fine with that, as long as Daniel Sturridge was given his chance?Just fucking move on, people. I agree with what you are saying 100%, but lets look at this objectively. If we cant even develop Sturridge to the point of where he is now, what chance does any youngster have coming through here? The lad is on his way to being world class.I asked on an earlier thread when would this one be bumped ,,, you must spilled a pint of milk not a saucer full... I was simply Irate after that second assist. Not because it was particularly impressive, but because his game would perfect in front of our midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofacej 132 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I wouldn't be terribly surprised if we (or City) ended up resigning him. I don't expect him to stay at Liverpool if he continues to perform the way he has been (unless they become serious title contenders again). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 When was the last time his acutal goal was discussed in this thread, instead of going over old wounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I though his assist for the second goal was real quality myself, the goal he got was lucky to be given.Took a daft touch to get that Gerrard pass under control on the wing and he beat the defender when he cut in inside the box and just fired it with the outside of his boot at the direction of Luis Suarez. I know if Torres had done the same and Oscar and Shurrle had scored and Torres scored his one on one a few here would be jizzing themselves for months. Well Sturridge actually got two assists and a goal on Sunday and didn't just play well with nothing to show for it other than a red card. He is the captain of my FF Team so won me quite a bit of points with that MOTM performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 . I know if Torres had done the same and Oscar and Shurrle had scored and Torres scored his one on one a few here would be jizzing themselves for months. Well Sturridge actually got two assists and a goal on Sunday and didn't just play well with nothing to show for it other than a red card. I agree. If Torres had performed like Sturridge(2 assists 1 goal) or Lukaku(1 assist 2 goals) have in their most recent games it would be heralded as one of his best games in the last 3 years. With Sturridge and Lukaku it is pretty much the norm now for them to score/create in a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I dont think it was ever problem with Danny, it was always problem with our managers, board and players. Danny had one game every two months with words by board something like; score or you wont play. He tried to score every time he got ball because other way he wouldnt play. He was under pressure and couldnt even score when he should. And that is with every striker we have. Too much pressure. Feed the cow and you will get a lot of meat, dont feed it and you are fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 What a goal he scored. Las7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 What a goal he scored.Not sure how the defender didn't injure himself trying to keep up and there was some real venom in that shot. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Turning out to be an amazing striker. And we sold him to rivals for bargain. Oh god... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Turning out to be an amazing striker. And we sold him to rivals for bargain. Oh god...i seriously doubt that he is "turning out" to be an amazing striker. he already was an amazing striker. The Skipper and jonaaibosk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 i seriously doubt that he is "turning out" to be an amazing striker. he already was an amazing striker. no he wasn't. He was a good player with us and should not have been sold aside. At least not based on skill alone, but some of us considered there was more to it than that.Players evolve and he seems to have evolve. Even not considering his ability, look at him, he looks a lot stronger physically than he did a couple of years ago. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2013 no he wasn't. He was a good player with us and should not have been sold aside. At least not based on skill alone, but some of us considered there was more to it than that.Players evolve and he seems to have evolve. Even not considering his ability, look at him, he looks a lot stronger physically than he did a couple of years ago. he was exactly what he was a couple of years ago. he played on the right wing and was one of our highet goal scorer and until december was definitely our player of the season. and that was when he was playing out of position. he was an amazing striker who was given the cold shoulder by our manager and board, just to promote torres. the only difference i see between the sturridge of now and then is that he is at PEACE with himself. he knows he does not have to prove anything to any1. he no longer takes shots from 30-35 yards out just to show every1 that he is special. and that has made him a better player. Mufassir08, Las7, Sidzeret and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 he was exactly what he was a couple of years ago. he played on the right wing and was one of our highet goal scorer and until december was definitely our player of the season. and that was when he was playing out of position. he was an amazing striker who was given the cold shoulder by our manager and board, just to promote torres. the only difference i see between the sturridge of now and then is that he is at PEACE with himself. he knows he does not have to prove anything to any1. he no longer takes shots from 30-35 yards out just to show every1 that he is special. and that has made him a better player. Disagree. Players are constantly improving and to me it is clear that Sturridge has. It would've been very strange if a player as young as he is did not improve. We can all be disappointed that our coaches did not see that potential in him, but that happens all the time (potential ability is difficult to assess). However, I certainly did not see this amazing player when he was with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Disagree. Players are constantly improving and to me it is clear that Sturridge has. It would've been very strange if a player as young as he is did not improve. We can all be disappointed that our coaches did not see that potential in him, but that happens all the time (potential ability is difficult to assess). However, I certainly did not see this amazing player when he was with us.Sturridge has improved at Liverpool for sure, but there have been a few people on here like myself and didierforever that saw that he was a special player when he was here. People always tend to forget that he was one of our best players under AVB which is a real shame. Sturridge was never given a fair chance here so of course he wasn't able to show it on a regular basis but there were quite a few people on here who said Sturridge does have the potential to be a world class striker if he was just given a chance and it looks like he's well on his way to be that. Las7 and English Freak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Never an issue of class - it was always an issue of trust and none of the managers we had enough balls to drop Drogba and Torres, playing Sturridge up top.I think AVB was going to do that, according to Sturridge AVB had told him to play on the wing for a season and improve his overall ability and weaker foot and he would get a chance up top next season. But AVB got sacked and RdM changed the system in favor of defensive wingers and never rated Sturridge as a striker, barely giving him a start. I don't believe Sturridge has started as a striker for CFC more than 3 matches, he either came on as a late sub for Torres or was played out on the wing. The Skipper and semiller1313 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Disagree. Players are constantly improving and to me it is clear that Sturridge has. It would've been very strange if a player as young as he is did not improve. We can all be disappointed that our coaches did not see that potential in him, but that happens all the time (potential ability is difficult to assess). However, I certainly did not see this amazing player when he was with us.wait a minute dude. sturridge dint start scoring goals only this season. as soon as we sold him sturridge started banging them in for fun.he scored 11 goals in 13 starts for pool last half season and that was when they were absolutely pathetic (they came 7th). he showed more than potential. people here are still hungover on him because even they could see how big a player he would still be and already was. people just wanted him to be given a real oppurtunity but he got 2 starts and 10 sub appearances in half a season. with that torres playing (and i am using the word playing very loosely here) all the games.sturridge has "improved" even more, that i accept but he already was a class act even with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Sturridge has improved at Liverpool for sure, but there have been a few people on here like myself and didierforever that saw that he was a special player when he was here. People always tend to forget that he was one of our best players under AVB which is a real shame.Sturridge was never given a fair chance here so of course he wasn't able to show it on a regular basis but there were quite a few people on here who said Sturridge does have the potential to be a world class striker if he was just given a chance and it looks like he's well on his way to be that.Sure, fair enough. That's why we discuss player's potential so much around here. We even discuss player's current ability in some very busy threads too. Some see potential in some players others don't.My point has always been that we don't really know what took place behind the scenes, especially concerning contract negotiations or perhaps some demand that Daniel may have made then. I know his contract was running out, so they would either offer him a new deal or sell him.Chelsea don't seem to have a good understanding of the players market. I don't see much logic in the deals we make; I see Spurs making far better deals for example.Our lack of depth in the center of the pitch is troubling to say the least; imagine if Ramires picks up an injury? [knocks on wood] our season would be down the toilet.didierforever, I am not talking about goals only. I'm talking about general play and even now Sturridge makes plenty of bad decisions and vanishes in tough matches. Lots of room for improvement still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Showing what he can do when played...didnt get played enough with us....move could've gone either way and just one of those kick in the teeth annoying things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I don't get why people blame Torres for Sturridge's apparent lack of form at Chelsea citing that Torres always gets the unfair nod ahead of Danny. He lacked belief at Chelsea and now things are working out for him. Good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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