Rumoured Luke Shaw

[iseah100 5,612]

Would like to think that there are still people in this world that find some things are more important than money (or maybe I'm just naive to think so). I'm not sure how strong are our interests on Shaw but would like to think we are interested a bit at the very least in signing him. Despite his claims about being a Chelsea fan and all that, he does seem pretty desperate to join United and join them because of the huge wages being offered. While I do agree slightly he may choose to accept this offer because it may never happen again if something bad happens but if you are a footballer with the potential to be one of the best in the game and have the confidence to realize that potential, would you really be concern about wages right now? Because if he continues to play well and develop himself and become a world class player, then sooner or later, he will receive that high wage anyway.

Lol what?! He's getting offered double in wages what anyone else will give him. If I were him I'd take it and run. He was a Chelsea fan, but he's not gonna take half the pay to play with us when he can go to Man U for that money. You're really naive if you actually believe what you said. They do this as a career, for money. If not, they'd just do this in their spare time. I wish he'd come here, but I understand why he's not. Oh well. PVA is a beast too.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

He's great offensively but he struggles to defend.

If Mourinho could turn Coentrao into a defensive bull dog, I have no doubts he could work well with Patrick. All assumptions though

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

Have you watched his games? I haven't and that's why I'm asking.

The notion I have heard from a lot of people is that he hasn't improved much defensively at all but is still very very good going forward. And I've also heard that he is extremely inconsistent

Inconsistent? Not from what I've watched, he's improved immensely

[The Skipper 20,593]

People do know we have Van Aanholt who's been nothing short of outstanding these past couple seasons.

He hasn't been "outstanding". Hyperbole and a half. He's had a good season but good in the Eredivisie doesn't prove much at all.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

A lot of money, but for me a great investment by United, they are getting a fantastic young player.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

He hasn't been "outstanding". Hyperbole and a half. He's had a good season but good in the Eredivisie doesn't prove much at all.

He's been bloody quality from what I've watched.

[Miguelito 459]

Inconsistent? Not from what I've watched, he's improved immensely

It's just what I had heard. Like I said I haven't seen him play so I had no idea

[The Skipper 20,593]

He's been bloody quality from what I've watched.

How often did you watch him?

He's always been good going forward though, his biggest problem by far is defensively. He hasn't been tested thoroughly enough in the Eredivisie. There's a difference between looking quality against full backs in the Eredivisie and looking ok defensively against Eredivisie players and making that step up to a top division like the EPL.

Honestly you shouldn't get too excited over him doing quite well in the Eredivisie. He wasn't even the best LB this year (that was Jetro Willems).

[Jase 43,479]

Lol what?! He's getting offered double in wages what anyone else will give him. If I were him I'd take it and run. He was a Chelsea fan, but he's not gonna take half the pay to play with us when he can go to Man U for that money. You're really naive if you actually believe what you said. They do this as a career, for money. If not, they'd just do this in their spare time. I wish he'd come here, but I understand why he's not. Oh well. PVA is a beast too.

Well, maybe I am. Or maybe I'm not. Only looking at two sides of the coin. Won't begrudge him if he joins United as in the end, he just proves to be one of the typical ones despite appear seemingly otherwise.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Well, maybe I am. Or maybe I'm not. Only looking at two sides of the coin. Won't begrudge him if he joins United as in the end, he just proves to be one of the typical ones despite appear seemingly otherwise.

That's assuming he chose United over Chelsea because of money... We weren't ever that strongly in for him. United had no competition.

[Jase 43,479]

That's assuming he chose United over Chelsea because of money... We weren't ever that strongly in for him. United had no competition.

That's why I said what I said before. I'm not sure how strong is our interest on Shaw but would think we have some form of interest in him, slight interest at least. And speaking of assumption, aren't we all also practically assuming that Shaw has been offered 160k wages p/w and all these things with United?! So many have talked about it like it's black and white stuff already.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Are there any reputable sites reporting this one? With that alleged wage?

[The Skipper 20,593]

That's why I said what I said before. I'm not sure how strong is our interest on Shaw but would think we have some form of interest in him, slight interest at least. And speaking of assumption, aren't we all also practically assuming that Shaw has been offered 160k wages p/w and all these things with United?! So many have talked about it like it's black and white stuff already.

Slight interest is different from full on going for it though... If we never made any concrete offers how is he going to chose United over us? Like I said, United were the only team in for him in the end because they priced everyone out with a high transfer fee and high wages (100 or 160, we don't know but either is ridiculous) so I don't think you can say he chose United over us. He'd be stupid to turn that sort of money to "hope" that CFCs slight interest turns into a concrete one.

[Jase 43,479]

Slight interest is different from full on going for it though... If we never made any concrete offers how is he going to chose United over us? Like I said, United were the only team in for him in the end because they priced everyone out with a high transfer fee and high wages (100 or 160, we don't know but either is ridiculous) so I don't think you can say he chose United over us. He'd be stupid to turn that sort of money to "hope" that CFCs slight interest turns into a concrete one.

All assumption based on paper talk, no? You can't say for certain either that we didn't make any offer for him.

For all we know, there could have been a situation where we and United can afford to pay Southampton what they want, offer Shaw first team football but he chose United over us because of better wages etc.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

It just doesn't make sense that he got offered 160k. I could understand a high wage packet if Southampton accepted 10 bids and United wanted to make sure he chose them, but it's widely reported that United are the only one that bid so he doesn't really have a choice but sign for United or stay at Soton. He'll obviously ask for higher wages than what he'll get at Southampton but no way does he have any leverage to request 4-5 times of Soton's offer. I believe that 160k to be total bullshit. 100k is a lot more believable.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He's been bloody quality from what I've watched.

Vitesse coach about PVA this season:

'He’s not ready. You cannot make the mistakes for Chelsea that he is making with us. It is not possible.

'He is progressing and he is not an old player, he is 23. He is fast and has fantastic technique. Going forward he is one of the best but in defence he has to learn a lot if he wants to play for Chelsea. He must be reliable.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2591810/Not-good-Jose-Mourinho-Dont-worry-boys-theres-room-Chelseas-Dutch-talent-factory.html

[Term-X 7,891]

Vitesse coach about PVA this season:

'He’s not ready. You cannot make the mistakes for Chelsea that he is making with us. It is not possible.

'He is progressing and he is not an old player, he is 23. He is fast and has fantastic technique. Going forward he is one of the best but in defence he has to learn a lot if he wants to play for Chelsea. He must be reliable.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2591810/Not-good-Jose-Mourinho-Dont-worry-boys-theres-room-Chelseas-Dutch-talent-factory.html

Nah, these guys know more about PVA's development than the Vitesse-fucking-Arnhem coach.

[Tomo 21,737]

If Mourinho could turn Coentrao into a defensive bull dog, I have no doubts he could work well with Patrick. All assumptions though

Being a bit suspect is one thing, being a full blown liability is another. Van Aanholt's sense of positioning is worse than Bosingwa's.

He has absolutely no chance of making it with a manager who even remotely values defence, let alone someone who builds his team foundation and stability on it.

Brendan might take him tho, and right wingers would be licking their lips with the prospect of a day out at Anfield.