Rumoured Luke Shaw

[Ze Mario 638]

Lol I said it before and I'll say it again £30 million for a 18 year old full back is just horrible business even if hes going to be a future England international for the next 15 years or not. Who the hell pays over £20m for a fullback bar Real Madrid cause they are stupid cunts? I still find it hard to believe we payed 15 or 16m/however much it was for Jose Bosingwa.

PSG for Marquinhos

[Pizy 18,418]

Don't understand why we'd be constrained by FFP at all, really.

United and City both have higher wage bills than us but aren't showing any concerns about FFP at all. Both will easily spend £100m and likely much more in United's case. We don't need to completely revamp the side like United need to do so we aren't gonna spend £150m or anything like that, but I see no reason why we should spend £100m.

[bababoom 4,478]

It's disappointing seeing English players go for so much, Everton will look at this Shaw deal and think they can sell Barkley for more... soon enough we might only have 1 or 2 English players in our team.

[Nike 373]

PSG for Marquinhos

Marquinhos is a cb that can play rb.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Price may seem a bit steep right now, but we won't be saying that at his testimonial.

The thing is you would pay that money, I would pay that money, but I just can't see Jose dragging himself in a bidding war for Shaw. And €35m and a €6m p/a contract for an 18 yo guy is a lot of money to be honest.

As much as I'd love Chelsea to sign this lad, I just can't see it happening if the reported amounts offered by United are true. Big money there and a vacant spot at LB for Shaw.

Talking about a good LB, I think Ricardo Rodriguez is someone to keep an eye on. I've watched Wolfsburg millions of times and that guy is the real deal. Miles ahead of Shaw. He's been in superb form this season and I won't lie if I say he's the best LB in Bundesliga right now. And his price won't be influenced by being Swiss, or French or whatever.

[Ze Mario 638]

Marquinhos is a cb that can play rb.

still stupid. 18 year defender who even didnt play regularly for their team. ridiculous club

[Waterfall 893]

It's a shame, but I wouldn't touch him at 30M + 100k a week wages. Money could be better spent elsewhere.

[lionsden 4,689]

No thank you. I will stick with that bloke called dave at left back. I heard he's not a bad fullback

[Sheva. 5,373]

Just bring Bertrand back.

[bababoom 4,478]

No thank you. I will stick with that bloke called dave at left back. I heard he's not a bad fullback

Azpi on the left has been solid defensively but doesn't offer much going forward, he needs to play on the right next season where he should be.

[bababoom 4,478]

Just bring Bertrand back.

Not good enough.

[lionsden 4,689]

Not good enough.

You should speak for yourself. he's good enough to me and many others who judge players on merit and don't fall for the hype machine and popularity contest.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Not good enough.

From what i've seen of him at Chelsea, he's decent - good enough to play against the likes of Sunderland and co, and not make any silly mistakes.

[bababoom 4,478]

You should speak for yourself. he's good enough to me and many others who judge players on merit and don't fall for the hype machine and popularity contest.

I am speaking for myself, he's not good enough. For Villa he's been average at best.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Talking about a good LB, I think Ricardo Rodriguez is someone to keep an eye on. I've watched Wolfsburg millions of times and that guy is the real deal. Miles ahead of Shaw. He's been in superb form this season and I won't lie if I say he's the best LB in Bundesliga right now. And his price won't be influenced by being Swiss, or French or whatever.

RR is definitely a good alternative but he's not 'miles' ahead of Shaw. Shaw is one of the best fullbacks in the PL already.

[lionsden 4,689]

I am speaking for myself, he's not good enough. For Villa he's been average at best.

Based of what I have seen of him at Chelsea he's been more than good enough for me. we don't need a Roberto carlos or Nilton santos at left back. There's no justification to spend that amount on a full back period. especially if it's a potential buy rather than the finished article. The only left backs that one might consider paying such ridiculous amount for are Alaba and lahm.

[mediator 2,026]

No thank you. I will stick with that bloke called dave at left back. I heard he's not a bad fullback

I won't call him a "left" fullback tbh, he barely cross the middle line

[Jase 43,479]

It's not really up to him though, Southampton want 30m for him, we're not willing to pay that much but United are.

Have there been anything concrete that says we won't pay 30m for Shaw? Not saying that I agree that he's worth that amount now but wouldn't say it's a foregone conclusion just yet. There are still other factors that need to be taken into consideration.

We will probably have about 40m off club generated money to spend, also factor in the potential departures off Luiz, Ba, Mikel, Torres (please god) aswell as the loanee's we decide to let go permanently, will probably bring us 50 (possibly more kf Barca give us big bucks for Luiz).

Also we have about 10m left over from the Mata/KDB sales, so i reckon we will probably have about a 100m kitty this summer, potentially more if we win CL.

True but then again, is it even worth forking out 30m for a 18-year old LB when others can be got at just 1/3 of that price?

I wouldn't blame him for flocking to the 100k/week deal, I would do it too.

If Shaw continues to play well and develop into a good/great player, then sooner or later, he will get that wages anyway. Also, for some, I believe that there are intangible 'reward' such as joining the club you love/support way better than getting tangible ones like wages and besides, Shaw doesn't seem like a person who always want big wages like some other players.

Don't understand why we'd be constrained by FFP at all, really.

United and City both have higher wage bills than us but aren't showing any concerns about FFP at all. Both will easily spend £100m and likely much more in United's case. We don't need to completely revamp the side like United need to do so we aren't gonna spend £150m or anything like that, but I see no reason why we should spend £100m.

I understand what you're saying but don't get why just because others don't seem to be complying by the rules, we have to follow their actions as well. We would basically be putting ourselves in a risky position to be punished heavily by the UEFA if we bust the bank and spend like nobody's business. And besides, let's not forget that City and PSG are currently under investigation of UEFA and we still do not know yet of their decision. Perhaps, that will tell us then how serious is this FFP being enforced.